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Post by DWags Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:36 am

Interesting. From MSU's teams who would be our all time starting five. Let's see how close one of you gets before they put MSU up.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/college-basketball-s-all-time-starting-five--arizona-wildcats-040953694-ncaab.html

Magic Johnson
Scott Skiles
Greg Kelsor
Day Day
Jay Vincent.

Damn hard to pick five.
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Post by InTenSity Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:30 am

Magic
Cleaves
Skiles
Paul Davis
Green

Hard to pick 5. Then are you picking the best 5 college, or best at their position?
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Post by NigelUno Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:32 am

InTenSity wrote:Magic
Cleaves
Skiles
Paul Davis
Green

Hard to pick 5. Then are you picking the best 5 college, or best at their position?

Quick. Change that before someone sees it.
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Post by SpartanInNH Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:52 am

InTenSity wrote:Magic
Cleaves
Skiles
Paul Davis
Green

Hard to pick 5. Then are you picking the best 5 college, or best at their position?

Exactly. That's a pretty guard-heavy squad.
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Post by Giant Moose Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:09 am

I'd have 5 Magics, and put them at every position if that's allowed.

If not, here's what I would go with.

PG - Earvin Johnson
SG - Russell Byrd
SF - Draymond Green
PF - Zach Randolph
C - Kevin Willis

Honorable mention: Steve Smith at SG
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Post by Giant Moose Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:22 am

I'd also have Jud Heathcote as my coach due to his undefeated record in the Final Four.
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Post by Death Roe Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:28 am

Giant Moose wrote:I'd also have Jud Heathcote as my coach due to his undefeated record in the Final Four.

This schtick is really outplayed. Go suck Bob's cock some more, Giant Douche.
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Post by SpartanInNH Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:30 am

No mention of Shawn Respert. Or Jumpin' Johny Green.

After graduation, he worked for a construction company and at a junkyard for six months, and then joined the military during the Korean Conflict.

There, after turning 20 years old, Green sprouted to 6-foot-5 and was a late bloomer in more ways than one.

"I kept practicing and playing pickup games," he said. "One night, I was shooting baskets and met Tom Foster, the coach at the base. He asked if I'd like to come out for the team. And I said, `Would I ever!'

"Dick Evans, the football coach there, saw that I could leap pretty well and asked me to dunk. I did it on the second try."

Evans had been a Spartan during the glory years in football under Biggie Munn and wrote a letter of recommendation to new basketball coach Forddy Anderson. Green followed up with a visit to campus while on leave in October 1955.

"When I was a senior, John Green came up and asked me to introduce him to Forddy," MSU standout Julius McCoy said. "I only have one regret. I wish he'd been there one year earlier. I don't think anyone could've beaten us that year. All we needed was someone to get a rebound."

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[According to former head coach Forddy Anderson,] "Then, my assistant, Bob Stevens, said, `There's a guy out here, a John Green, who wants to talk to you.' I said, `Arrgh, bring him in!' I couldn't remember him.

"I said, `You have to fill out a form to get into school.' He said, `I've already done that.' I said, `Well, you have to register for classes.' He said, `I've already done that.' I said, `Then, you have to get your books.' He said, `I've already done that.' Finally, I said, `OK, go up and work out with the freshman team,' figuring that would be the end of it."

Wearing a purple-and-white shirt, red-and-blue shorts, green stockings pulled over his knees and raggedy, black canvas shoes, Green took several shots in the upstairs Jenison gym and missed badly.

But when Stevens said, "Try to rebound the ball," Green soared above the rim and snatched every shot - "like a giant hawk snaring sparrows," as Hall of Fame Sports Information Director Fred Stabley often described it.

"I was a grad assistant, and so was Stan Albeck," said former team manager Bob Watts. "Forddy said, `Boys, take him upstairs and see what he has got.' The first thing he did was jump out of the gym. . . . Work him out, hell! How you work out a rebound machine?"

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"Here's how amazing he was," said his Bryan Hall pal and first MSU interviewer, Terry Braverman. "We had intramural track in those days. It was a pretty big deal. And we wanted John to join us. He'd never done anything like that. But they put the high jump bar at 6-foot. And he hurdled it!"

"I'd put him in a group with Jackie Jackson, the old Globetrotter, and maybe three other guys as a rebounder," McCoy said. "He jumped out of sight. I know Julius Erving well. And Julius wasn't in his league."

Green routinely touched the top of an NBA backboard at 12-foot-6 and once dunked a ball 10 times in 15 seconds.

"I remember an alumni game when Robin Roberts, the great baseball pitcher, went up as high as he could and was eye-level with Green's belt buckle," Vista said. "That was when Robin decided not to play any more basketball."

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Post by Giant Moose Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:35 am

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Giant Moose wrote:I'd also have Jud Heathcote as my coach due to his undefeated record in the Final Four.

This schtick is really outplayed. Go suck Bob's cock some more, Giant Douche.
I just trust Jud to win more than any of our other coaches with elite talent. His undefeated record in the Final Four and prior coaching experience with my squad's best player puts him over the top. I considered Brewer and Izzo, but ultimately I think Heathcote gives me the best chance to win.
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Post by Nordic Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:35 am

G - Magic
G - Cleaves
F - Mo Pete
F - Green
C - Peplowski
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:02 pm

Nordic wrote:G - Magic
G - Cleaves
F - Mo Pete
F - Green
C - Peplowski

I'm going 2 deep....

PG - Magic - Cleaves
SG - Skiles - Smith
SF - MoPete - Respert
PF - Green - Green
C - Davis - Randolph


Tells you how deep we are when players like Walton, Kelser, Peplowski, Payne, Vincent, Willis, etc, etc, etc can't make it.
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Post by DWags Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:15 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
Nordic wrote:G - Magic
G - Cleaves
F - Mo Pete
F - Green
C - Peplowski

I'm going 2 deep....

PG - Magic - Cleaves
SG - Skiles - Smith
SF - MoPete - Respert
PF - Green - Green
C - Davis - Randolph


Tells you how deep we are when players like Walton, Kelser, Peplowski, Payne, Vincent, Willis, etc, etc, etc can't make it.


Is anybody thinking defense also?
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Post by Giant Moose Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:30 pm

DWags wrote:Is anybody thinking defense also?  
If you have Magic and Draymond on your list, you're pretty covered there. I believe Magic had the most steals in one season out of any MSU player, and Draymond had the most rebounds in any one season.
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Post by DWags Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:32 pm

Giant Moose wrote:
DWags wrote:Is anybody thinking defense also?  
If you have Magic and Draymond on your list, you're pretty covered there. I believe Magic had the most steals in one season out of any MSU player, and Draymond had the most rebounds in any one season.

No doubt. I know a lot of these lists tend to put fire piece out there. It will be fun to see what their non spartan view is.
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Post by DWags Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:34 pm

Also MSU is lucky in that we can use magic legitimately in four starting spots and probably five. Gives us options.
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Post by Giant Moose Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:38 pm

DWags wrote:Also MSU is lucky in that we can use magic legitimately in four starting spots and probably five. Gives us options.
I thought about legitimately putting Magic as my center because we've had a lot more talent at guard than center, but Willis' long NBA career swayed me. It takes a lot to stay in the association for 2 decades. Maybe I'm not supposed to use the NBA but it was hard for me to ignore.
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Post by DWags Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:41 pm

Giant Moose wrote:
DWags wrote:Also MSU is lucky in that we can use magic legitimately in four starting spots and probably five. Gives us options.
I thought about legitimately putting Magic as my center because we've had a lot more talent at guard than center, but Willis' long NBA career swayed me. It takes a lot to stay in the association for 2 decades. Maybe I'm not supposed to use the NBA but it was hard for me to ignore.

It's fucking unbeluevable the talent we've run through here. You could go fast break and big scoring. Or half court sets and defense or anything in between.

Fun seeing everyone's lineups.
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:04 pm

No, mine is the best!

Magic
Richardson
Peterson
Randolph
Green

Bang!
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:51 pm

WATCH: Michigan State Basketball's All-Time Starting Five
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Post by NigelUno Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:00 pm

LooseGoose wrote:WATCH: Michigan State Basketball's All-Time Starting Five

Magic
Cleaves
Draymond
Steve Smith
Skiles

Lots of ball handlers.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:15 pm

NigelUno wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:WATCH: Michigan State Basketball's All-Time Starting Five

Magic
Cleaves
Draymond
Steve Smith
Skiles

Lots of ball handlers.

They would be a bitch to defend.....but defense would be an issue. On D - Magic C, DayDay PF. Smith SF, Cleaves SG, Skiles PG.- On Offense flip Cleaves and Skiles - the passing would be Globetrotter like.
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