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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-08-22, 13:05

I still can't believe she killed those four brave Americans in Benghazi with her email account.

#NeverForget

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Post by Floyd Robertson 2016-08-22, 18:46

FBI uncovers 14,900 more documents in Clinton email probe

The FBI’s year-long investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server uncovered 14,900 emails and documents from her time as secretary of state that had not been disclosed by her attorneys, and a federal judge on Monday pressed the State Department to begin releasing emails sooner than mid-October as it planned.


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Post by GRR Spartan 2016-08-22, 20:27

Pressing is different than ordering.

The 14,900 emails were found by the FBI out of how many?
Personally I don't think the number is significant because regardless of the count Trey Gowdy was going to have investigations that will continue whether HRC wins or loses in Nov because that's the way the current GOP goes about things
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Gabriel Malor ‏@gabrielmalor 1h1 hour ago
Remember how Clinton said she turned over all work-related emails?

She lied. A lot.

FBI Recovers 30 Hillary Clinton Emails Involving Benghazi Attack
(WASHINGTON)— The State Department says about 30 emails that may be related to the 2012 attack on U.S. compounds in Benghazi, Libya, are among the thousands of Hillary Clinton emails recovered during the FBI’s recently closed investigation into her use of a private server.

Government lawyers told U.S. District Court Judge Amit P. Mehta Tuesday that an undetermined number of the emails among the 30 were not included in the 55,000 pages previously provided by Clinton. The State Department’s lawyer said it would need until the end of September to review the emails and redact potentially classified information before they are released.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-08-30, 16:01

LooseGoose wrote:Gabriel Malor ‏@gabrielmalor 1h1 hour ago
Remember how Clinton said she turned over all work-related emails?

She lied. A lot.

FBI Recovers 30 Hillary Clinton Emails Involving Benghazi Attack
(WASHINGTON)— The State Department says about 30 emails that may be related to the 2012 attack on U.S. compounds in Benghazi, Libya, are among the thousands of Hillary Clinton emails recovered during the FBI’s recently closed investigation into her use of a private server.

Government lawyers told U.S. District Court Judge Amit P. Mehta Tuesday that an undetermined number of the emails among the 30 were not included in the 55,000 pages previously provided by Clinton. The State Department’s lawyer said it would need until the end of September to review the emails and redact potentially classified information before they are released.
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Post by Guest 2016-08-30, 18:32

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Gabriel Malor ‏@gabrielmalor 1h1 hour ago
Remember how Clinton said she turned over all work-related emails?

She lied. A lot.

FBI Recovers 30 Hillary Clinton Emails Involving Benghazi Attack

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#NeverForget #Benghazi

I know it's no big deal she lied and covered up, that's what Clintons do. Glad to see you're still enjoyng mocking Benghazi.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2016-08-30, 21:31

Is anyone else getting e-mail fatigue?
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Post by Turtleneck 2016-08-30, 21:54

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Is anyone else getting e-mail fatigue?

I have Clinton fatigue. It is no secret they are both power hungry, which leads them to skirt the rules and lie when necessary. I suppose that makes the Clintons like most people. Do not fool yourself into thinking you are above scheming to get your way. You are a human. But we expect our public officials to exhibit virtue that few people actually posses. It is somewhat unrealistic.


So you have a corrupt, fascist-lite liar who wants to be president to increase his private wealth and power versus the status quo politician. It is barely worth talking about anymore.
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Turtleneck wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Is anyone else getting e-mail fatigue?

I have Clinton fatigue. It is no secret they are both power hungry, which leads them to skirt the rules and lie when necessary. I suppose that makes the Clintons like most people. Do not fool yourself into thinking you are above scheming to get your way. You are a human. But we expect our public officials to exhibit virtue that few people actually posses. It is somewhat unrealistic.


So you have a corrupt, fascist-lite liar who wants to be president to increase his private wealth and power versus the status quo politician. It is barely worth talking about anymore.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-08-31, 10:04

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: Hillary Clinton Should Concede to Bernie Sanders Before The FBI Reveals Its Findings - Page 5 MTM2NjQzNjIzMjQ0NjA1MDIz

#NeverForget #Benghazi

I know it's no big deal she lied and covered up, that's what Clintons do. Glad to see you're still enjoyng mocking Benghazi.
I enjoy mocking simple-minded people like you who attempt to politicize the death of 4 brave Americans.

enjoy your ice cream under your shade tree today. #NeverForgetBenghazi

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Post by Guest 2016-08-31, 10:08

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

I know it's no big deal she lied and covered up, that's what Clintons do. Glad to see you're still enjoyng mocking Benghazi.
I enjoy mocking simple-minded people like you who attempt to politicize the death of 4 brave Americans.

enjoy your ice cream under your shade tree today. #NeverForgetBenghazi


Your mocking of the politicization only goes one way as usual and is a bullshit excuse. Does your mocking excuse those that lied about how they died? I guess so since it was Hills and the Obama administration. If it were a Republican you'd be simply outraged.

Oh and more from your gal:

Clinton emailed classified info after leaving State: report

Yep she should be President.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-08-31, 10:09

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I enjoy mocking simple-minded people like you who attempt to politicize the death of 4 brave Americans.

enjoy your ice cream under your shade tree today. #NeverForgetBenghazi


Your mocking of the politicization only goes one way as usual and is a bullshit excuse. Does your mocking excuse those that lied about how they died? I guess so since it was Hills and the Obama administration. If it were a Republican you'd be simply outraged.

Oh and more from your gal:

Clinton emailed classified info after leaving State: report

Yep she should be President.

don't worry.. in November, we will ban together to Make America White Again.

#NeverForgetBenghazi

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Post by Guest 2016-09-02, 14:41

Golly Gee - just a coincidence that there's a HUGE news dump of bad tidings for Hills on the Friday night of Labor Day weekend.

Chris Cillizza ‏@TheFix 34m34 minutes ago
This is crazy. 3 weeks after NYT publish Clinton email server story, there was a big wipe of her emails conducted
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and Hills claimed not to know C meant confidential:
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And all her aides perjured themselves - said they didn;t know about the private server when they all had email addresses on it.
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And Hills didn't think discussing potential drone strikes was confidential
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And her 15 old Blackberries and 5 old Ipads? No one knows where most of them are....
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Post by Guest 2016-09-02, 14:56

Yeah, we've got a helluva great choice to make.....

Charles C. W. Cooke ‏@charlescwcooke 9m9 minutes ago
“You are corrupt as hell, Hillary.”
“No. I’m confused and ignorant. I lose things. Don’t know what letters mean. Old. Concussion. Elect me.”
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Post by Guest 2016-09-02, 14:58

And yet somehow she didn't get indicted......

Jimmy ‏@JimmyPrinceton 29m29 minutes ago
Always assumed server wipe happened before scandal became public. It's the opposite. They scrambled to destroy evidence after story broke.
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Post by Guest 2016-09-02, 16:32

Amazing how forgetful our future President is....

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Post by Rocinante 2016-09-02, 16:46

We still have no idea who was in Dick Cheney's Energy Taskforce meetings, nor are any of the discussions available for public review.
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Post by Guest 2016-09-02, 16:49

Rocinante wrote:We still have no idea who was in Dick Cheney's Energy Taskforce meetings, nor are any of the discussions available for public review.

OK - so that clears the way to ignore all the Hillary stuff.   Thanks for reminding us. Will the Cheney stuff be released before or after the Obamacare meetings? Or
the Hillary healthcare meetings from 93-94??
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Post by DWags 2016-09-03, 12:42

I.B. Fine wrote:Hills surfing porn on her private server Hillary Clinton Should Concede to Bernie Sanders Before The FBI Reveals Its Findings - Page 5 502811600
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3771474/Clinton-email-server-hit-dark-web-tools-Hillary-worried-hacked-getting-send-link-porn.html

I'd say getting a link to porn on that server might have been a clue.
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Because we know an honest hacker would never gain access to another computer to peruse porn.
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From the Wall Street Journal - Democrat or Republican or Independent this should scare you.
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Forget the new dump of Hillary Clinton emails. Forget the phony claims that the missing communications were all about wedding plans and yoga routines. Forget, too, the many requests from Doug Band in which the Clinton Foundation honcho hoped his quos (hefty donations to the Clinton Foundation) would translate into quids (e.g., special access to the secretary).

Forget them all. The most disturbing aspect about the FBI dump may not be fresh evidence of another Clinton lie. The most disturbing thing about Mrs. Clinton’s continuing email drama may be where she’s telling the truth.

Or at least a half-truth. Mrs. Clinton told the FBI it was “common knowledge” at State that she used private email. Agents further quote her as saying she “could not recall anyone raising concerns with her regarding the sensitivity of the information she received at her email address.”

However unseemly the cashing in of the Clinton family, whatever the trampling of the ethics accord the Clinton Foundation had signed with the White House, even apart from the walking conflicts-of-interests that were Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills, the much larger stink here is this: Mrs. Clinton was allowed to spend her four years as secretary of state off the grid.

It isn’t so much that Mrs. Clinton set up a personal server so she would not be accountable the way normal political appointees are held accountable. It’s that no one in government stopped her. The inspector general’s report notes that when two IT officers expressed their concern in 2010 that her private email system meant federal records were not being preserved, they were told “never to speak of the Secretary’s personal email system again.”

As a result, when the American people finally learned about Mrs. Clinton’s use of private email for public business, it wasn’t because of a functioning civil service. It was because of a hacker.

Mrs. Clinton says officials at State never told her what she was doing wasn’t allowed. That isn’t quite true. It’s more accurate to say she never asked the people who would have the answers to these questions. The IG report confirms it was made clear to State staffers that she did not want the questions asked.

It gets worse. Even today her former department is still resisting efforts to make public the emails she tried to hide. Groups such as Judicial Watch have done yeoman’s work in forcing the emails into the sunlight—but they have also had to get court orders to pry them out of an obstructionist State Department.

It’s a disturbing pattern, and unfortunately it’s not limited to State. There have been similar questions about the integrity and professionalism of the IRS ever since the American people learned in 2013 that it was unfairly targeting conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.

Three years, many congressional hearings and disappearing hard drives later, there is still no evidence the IRS has ended the practice. Just last month, a three-judge panel of the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals described the IRS approach to its targets this way: “You’re alright for now, but there may be another shoe falling.” This follows on a March ruling from the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, which blasted the IRS for refusing to produce a list of those it had targeted—as well as for its bad faith in defending itself by invoking a rule meant to “protect taxpayers from the IRS, not the IRS from taxpayers.”

Originally the speculation was that the IRS effort had been orchestrated by the Obama administration. As the Journal’s James Taranto noted at the time, the IRS scandal is worse if it was not directed by the White House. “If it ‘went rogue’ against the Constitution and in support of the party in power,” he wrote, “then we are dealing with a cancer on the federal government.”

Now consider the FBI. Its director is appointed to a 10-year term precisely to remove him from political pressures.

In our criminal-justice system, the bureau’s job is to investigate, while the decision to indict belongs to the Justice Department. In other words, whether to indict Mrs. Clinton was Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s responsibility, and she would have to take the heat whichever way she decided.

Until FBI director Jim Comey intervened with a press conference in which he announced he was recommending against indictment. By going public in a way even he admitted was “unusual,” Mr. Comey effectively pre-empted the Justice Department and any hope for accountability. That Mr. Comey’s decision let Ms. Lynch off the hook after her private meeting with Bill Clinton only makes it more disgraceful.

Welcome to modern Washington, just two months away from a presidential election. It’s possible, of course, that the people who believe the system is rigged and that their government has taken sides against them are wrong.

But the most disquieting possibility is that it isn’t crazy to think they might be right.
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LooseGoose wrote:From the Wall Street Journal - Democrat or Republican or Independent this should scare you.
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Forget the new dump of Hillary Clinton emails. Forget the phony claims that the missing communications were all about wedding plans and yoga routines. Forget, too, the many requests from Doug Band in which the Clinton Foundation honcho hoped his quos (hefty donations to the Clinton Foundation) would translate into quids (e.g., special access to the secretary).

Forget them all. The most disturbing aspect about the FBI dump may not be fresh evidence of another Clinton lie. The most disturbing thing about Mrs. Clinton’s continuing email drama may be where she’s telling the truth.

Or at least a half-truth. Mrs. Clinton told the FBI it was “common knowledge” at State that she used private email. Agents further quote her as saying she “could not recall anyone raising concerns with her regarding the sensitivity of the information she received at her email address.”

However unseemly the cashing in of the Clinton family, whatever the trampling of the ethics accord the Clinton Foundation had signed with the White House, even apart from the walking conflicts-of-interests that were Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills, the much larger stink here is this: Mrs. Clinton was allowed to spend her four years as secretary of state off the grid.

It isn’t so much that Mrs. Clinton set up a personal server so she would not be accountable the way normal political appointees are held accountable. It’s that no one in government stopped her. The inspector general’s report notes that when two IT officers expressed their concern in 2010 that her private email system meant federal records were not being preserved, they were told “never to speak of the Secretary’s personal email system again.”

As a result, when the American people finally learned about Mrs. Clinton’s use of private email for public business, it wasn’t because of a functioning civil service. It was because of a hacker.

Mrs. Clinton says officials at State never told her what she was doing wasn’t allowed. That isn’t quite true. It’s more accurate to say she never asked the people who would have the answers to these questions. The IG report confirms it was made clear to State staffers that she did not want the questions asked.

It gets worse. Even today her former department is still resisting efforts to make public the emails she tried to hide. Groups such as Judicial Watch have done yeoman’s work in forcing the emails into the sunlight—but they have also had to get court orders to pry them out of an obstructionist State Department.

It’s a disturbing pattern, and unfortunately it’s not limited to State. There have been similar questions about the integrity and professionalism of the IRS ever since the American people learned in 2013 that it was unfairly targeting conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.

Three years, many congressional hearings and disappearing hard drives later, there is still no evidence the IRS has ended the practice. Just last month, a three-judge panel of the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals described the IRS approach to its targets this way: “You’re alright for now, but there may be another shoe falling.” This follows on a March ruling from the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, which blasted the IRS for refusing to produce a list of those it had targeted—as well as for its bad faith in defending itself by invoking a rule meant to “protect taxpayers from the IRS, not the IRS from taxpayers.”

Originally the speculation was that the IRS effort had been orchestrated by the Obama administration. As the Journal’s James Taranto noted at the time, the IRS scandal is worse if it was not directed by the White House. “If it ‘went rogue’ against the Constitution and in support of the party in power,” he wrote, “then we are dealing with a cancer on the federal government.”

Now consider the FBI. Its director is appointed to a 10-year term precisely to remove him from political pressures.

In our criminal-justice system, the bureau’s job is to investigate, while the decision to indict belongs to the Justice Department. In other words, whether to indict Mrs. Clinton was Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s responsibility, and she would have to take the heat whichever way she decided.

Until FBI director Jim Comey intervened with a press conference in which he announced he was recommending against indictment. By going public in a way even he admitted was “unusual,” Mr. Comey effectively pre-empted the Justice Department and any hope for accountability. That Mr. Comey’s decision let Ms. Lynch off the hook after her private meeting with Bill Clinton only makes it more disgraceful.

Welcome to modern Washington, just two months away from a presidential election. It’s possible, of course, that the people who believe the system is rigged and that their government has taken sides against them are wrong.

But the most disquieting possibility is that it isn’t crazy to think they might be right.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:From the Wall Street Journal - Democrat or Republican or Independent this should scare you.
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Forget the new dump of Hillary Clinton emails. Forget the phony claims that the missing communications were all about wedding plans and yoga routines. Forget, too, the many requests from Doug Band in which the Clinton Foundation honcho hoped his quos (hefty donations to the Clinton Foundation) would translate into quids (e.g., special access to the secretary).

Forget them all. The most disturbing aspect about the FBI dump may not be fresh evidence of another Clinton lie. The most disturbing thing about Mrs. Clinton’s continuing email drama may be where she’s telling the truth.

Or at least a half-truth. Mrs. Clinton told the FBI it was “common knowledge” at State that she used private email. Agents further quote her as saying she “could not recall anyone raising concerns with her regarding the sensitivity of the information she received at her email address.”

However unseemly the cashing in of the Clinton family, whatever the trampling of the ethics accord the Clinton Foundation had signed with the White House, even apart from the walking conflicts-of-interests that were Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills, the much larger stink here is this: Mrs. Clinton was allowed to spend her four years as secretary of state off the grid.

It isn’t so much that Mrs. Clinton set up a personal server so she would not be accountable the way normal political appointees are held accountable. It’s that no one in government stopped her. The inspector general’s report notes that when two IT officers expressed their concern in 2010 that her private email system meant federal records were not being preserved, they were told “never to speak of the Secretary’s personal email system again.”

As a result, when the American people finally learned about Mrs. Clinton’s use of private email for public business, it wasn’t because of a functioning civil service. It was because of a hacker.

Mrs. Clinton says officials at State never told her what she was doing wasn’t allowed. That isn’t quite true. It’s more accurate to say she never asked the people who would have the answers to these questions. The IG report confirms it was made clear to State staffers that she did not want the questions asked.

It gets worse. Even today her former department is still resisting efforts to make public the emails she tried to hide. Groups such as Judicial Watch have done yeoman’s work in forcing the emails into the sunlight—but they have also had to get court orders to pry them out of an obstructionist State Department.

It’s a disturbing pattern, and unfortunately it’s not limited to State. There have been similar questions about the integrity and professionalism of the IRS ever since the American people learned in 2013 that it was unfairly targeting conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.

Three years, many congressional hearings and disappearing hard drives later, there is still no evidence the IRS has ended the practice. Just last month, a three-judge panel of the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals described the IRS approach to its targets this way: “You’re alright for now, but there may be another shoe falling.” This follows on a March ruling from the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, which blasted the IRS for refusing to produce a list of those it had targeted—as well as for its bad faith in defending itself by invoking a rule meant to “protect taxpayers from the IRS, not the IRS from taxpayers.”

Originally the speculation was that the IRS effort had been orchestrated by the Obama administration. As the Journal’s James Taranto noted at the time, the IRS scandal is worse if it was not directed by the White House. “If it ‘went rogue’ against the Constitution and in support of the party in power,” he wrote, “then we are dealing with a cancer on the federal government.”

Now consider the FBI. Its director is appointed to a 10-year term precisely to remove him from political pressures.

In our criminal-justice system, the bureau’s job is to investigate, while the decision to indict belongs to the Justice Department. In other words, whether to indict Mrs. Clinton was Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s responsibility, and she would have to take the heat whichever way she decided.

Until FBI director Jim Comey intervened with a press conference in which he announced he was recommending against indictment. By going public in a way even he admitted was “unusual,” Mr. Comey effectively pre-empted the Justice Department and any hope for accountability. That Mr. Comey’s decision let Ms. Lynch off the hook after her private meeting with Bill Clinton only makes it more disgraceful.

Welcome to modern Washington, just two months away from a presidential election. It’s possible, of course, that the people who believe the system is rigged and that their government has taken sides against them are wrong.

But the most disquieting possibility is that it isn’t crazy to think they might be right.
the mainstream media telling me "this should scare you"....Hillary Clinton Should Concede to Bernie Sanders Before The FBI Reveals Its Findings - Page 5 502811600 Hillary Clinton Should Concede to Bernie Sanders Before The FBI Reveals Its Findings - Page 5 502811600 Hillary Clinton Should Concede to Bernie Sanders Before The FBI Reveals Its Findings - Page 5 502811600

It should scare you in the sense that the most powerful actors in American politics might be unelected bureaucrats who cannot be held democratically accountable.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-09-07, 11:22

let's see.. I'm supposed to be scared of ISIS, immigrants, black people, Hillary's cough, Hillary's email account, and now this??

I don't know how much more scared I could possibly be.
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Post by Turtleneck 2016-09-07, 12:02

Robert J Sakimano wrote:let's see.. I'm supposed to be scared of ISIS, immigrants, black people, Hillary's cough, Hillary's email account, and now this??

I don't know how much more scared I could possibly be.

I think you are missing the point.

This is not about adding to a list of things that should scare you about Clinton. This is about more than Clinton.

This is about the evolution of the bureaucracy in both role and size. This is about a bureaucracy so large and autonomous that it has seemingly outgrown oversight.

So making it about Clinton misses the point.
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Turtleneck wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:let's see.. I'm supposed to be scared of ISIS, immigrants, black people, Hillary's cough, Hillary's email account, and now this??

I don't know how much more scared I could possibly be.

I think you are missing the point.

This is not about adding to a list of things that should scare you about Clinton. This is about more than Clinton.

This is about the evolution of the bureaucracy in both role and size. This is about a bureaucracy so large and autonomous that it has seemingly outgrown oversight.

So making it about Clinton misses the point.
that sounds pretty scary.. Shocked Shocked

I guess I'll be voting for Trump, after all.

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Post by Turtleneck 2016-09-07, 12:08

Trump is not the the answer.

Making everything into a partisan back-and-forth impedes helpful progress.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-09-07, 12:39

Turtleneck wrote:Trump is not the the answer.

Making everything into a partisan back-and-forth impedes helpful progress.
so.. write-in candidate?



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Post by Turtleneck 2016-09-07, 12:40

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Trump is not the the answer.

Making everything into a partisan back-and-forth impedes helpful progress.
so.. write-in candidate?




Vote for whoever you want.
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Turtleneck wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:so.. write-in candidate?




Vote for whoever you want.
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thanks, man.. I just hope I'm not too scared to leave my house on election day.

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Post by Turtleneck 2016-09-07, 12:55

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

Vote for whoever you want.
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thanks, man.. I just hope I'm not too scared to leave my house on election day.


Buy a gun. Or two.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-09-07, 13:20

Turtleneck wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
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thanks, man.. I just hope I'm not too scared to leave my house on election day.


Buy a gun. Or two.
you mean.. I should allow the mainstream media and the right wing propaganda machine to whip me into a hate-filled, fearful, paranoid frenzy so that I will go out and support the very industry that they both are beholden to?

if I were easily manipulated by emotion I might take you up on that.



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House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

When you're about to commit a felony it's solid thinking to turn to Reddit for advice.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-09-20, 07:50

LooseGoose wrote:House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

When you're about to commit a felony it's solid thinking to turn to Reddit for advice.
that's really frightening.

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Post by SomeFanName 2016-09-20, 10:10

Turtleneck wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:let's see.. I'm supposed to be scared of ISIS, immigrants, black people, Hillary's cough, Hillary's email account, and now this??

I don't know how much more scared I could possibly be.

I think you are missing the point.

This is not about adding to a list of things that should scare you about Clinton. This is about more than Clinton.

This is about the evolution of the bureaucracy in both role and size. This is about a bureaucracy so large and autonomous that it has seemingly outgrown oversight.

So making it about Clinton misses the point.

It's been that way for decades, arguable more than a century. That information was previously not in the public the way it can be now.


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