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Post by xsanguine on 2016-07-17, 23:17

I'm messed up guys.... I guess is what I'm trying to say. And it has nothing to do with drugs. I don't know why I used this as a forum to unload.

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Post by xsanguine on 2016-07-17, 23:21

xsanguine wrote:I'm messed up guys.... I guess is what I'm trying to say. And it has nothing to do with drugs. I don't know why I used this as a forum to unload.

Speaking of unloading... I was just given a hall pass by my wife.

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Post by Herbie Green on 2016-07-17, 23:42

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Isnt Molly and Ecstasy more or less MDMA?

In theory yes, in actuality no. MDMA is the drug that is supposed to be in Ecstasy and Molly. Most Ecstasy pills are also filled with inactive fillers so you can press the pill, back in the day most pills only had one real drug, just varying amounts of MDMA. Eventually people started pressing pills with meth type drugs in them, a mixture of the two, etc. Molly is the same way, in fact most "molly" that is tested turns out to have very little or no MDMA in it and is a mix if meth and other foul drugs.

That is why I would never take that crap. I was going to say the same about LSD but this article is interesting www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth5.shtml
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Post by xsanguine on 2016-07-17, 23:56

Herbie Green wrote:
pulling69 wrote:

In theory yes, in actuality no. MDMA is the drug that is supposed to be in Ecstasy and Molly. Most Ecstasy pills are also filled with inactive fillers so you can press the pill, back in the day most pills only had one real drug, just varying amounts of MDMA. Eventually people started pressing pills with meth type drugs in them, a mixture of the two, etc. Molly is the same way, in fact most "molly" that is tested turns out to have very little or no MDMA in it and is a mix if meth and other foul drugs.

That is why I would never take that crap. I was going to say the same about LSD but this article is interesting www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth5.shtml

MDMA is a wicked compound. Chemists fuck up from time to time but they should be pretty good. Molly, on the other hand I'd just skip. I've done it a few, but it's meh.

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Post by Herbie Green on 2016-07-18, 00:15

xsanguine wrote:
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That is why I would never take that crap. I was going to say the same about LSD but this article is interesting www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth5.shtml

MDMA is a wicked compound. Chemists fuck up from time to time but they should be pretty good. Molly, on the other hand I'd just skip. I've done it a few, but it's meh.

Isnt X or Molly just putting MMDA in a pill or capsule. Either one could be doctored to where you don't know what you are geting. LSD same thing but what is the incentive when you can dip a 100 hit sheet for a few bucks and you only need one to lose your mind for somewhere between 12 hours and the rest of your life. But I guess even the pure form isn't a sure bet or something. People end up with their jaw or spine locking up
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Post by xsanguine on 2016-07-18, 00:28

Herbie Green wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

MDMA is a wicked compound. Chemists fuck up from time to time but they should be pretty good. Molly, on the other hand I'd just skip. I've done it a few, but it's meh.

Isnt X or Molly just putting MMDA in a pill or capsule. Either one could be doctored to where you don't know what you are geting. LSD same thing but what is the incentive when you can dip a 100 hit sheet for a few bucks and you only need one to lose your mind for somewhere between 12 hours and the rest of your life. But I guess even the pure form isn't a sure bet or something. People end up with their jaw or spine locking up

You're right in some respects, however, MDMA (3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is ecstasy (X). Like the real shit we would do in the 90's. Now.... it's been fucked with so buying "ecstasy" means all of jack shit. Unless you're in Amsterdam, in which case you're probably doing alright. Molly is suppose to be another word for X but that again has been fucked harder than a cuckold's wife. It's whatever, really.

I wouldn't trust any of that shit unless I knew the chemist which the chemist I knew is now serving 20+ years for manufacturing. God bless the American government for keeping us safe.

LSD is a completely different animal. Maybe not to the normal guy but it's lysergic acid, is not related to MDMA in any feasible way.
It's like comparing heroin and coke. Yeah, they're both powders... but.... they are entirely different both chemically and how they react to your body.

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Post by xsanguine on 2016-07-18, 00:31

To answer your question... these pills are not difficult to manufacturer. I don't have the chemistry knowledge to do it but I've seen MDMA made and it is not difficult. I've also seen LSD made and that is (to use the same phrase) an entirely different animal.

LSD is VERY expensive to make. Expect to spend over $10k to get the chemicals for LSD.

Not to mention how the hell you expect to get those chemicals without attracting attention (a la Breaking Bad)
The really good dudes just synthesize the chemicals they can't get anonymously themselves.


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Post by The_Dude on 2016-07-18, 00:32

xsanguine wrote:I'm messed up guys.... I guess is what I'm trying to say. And it has nothing to do with drugs. I don't know why I used this as a forum to unload.


No prob here bro, vent all you want. Everyone needs a release.
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Post by xsanguine on 2016-07-18, 00:32

The reason LSD is as popular? It's way better... X sucks..... that's for high school and college kids that don't know any body. Once you've gotten the hang of psychedelics and try LSD... a whole nother world opens. You're life is then forever changed (in a good way)

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Post by xsanguine on 2016-07-18, 00:33

The_Dude wrote:
xsanguine wrote:I'm messed up guys.... I guess is what I'm trying to say. And it has nothing to do with drugs. I don't know why I used this as a forum to unload.


No prob here bro, vent all you want. Everyone needs a release.

I appreciate that, Dude. You know, I don't defend you as much as I should (I try to figure that if someone is in trouble you'd know), but I appreciate you as a poster, man. And I just wanted you to know that.

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Post by xsanguine on 2016-07-18, 02:23

You'd think a couple of dozen 50mg diazepams and a 6 pack would do it....

But nope, still breathing. Having some balance issues, though. Sucks cause it's kind of like ketamine and I hate ketamine.

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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2017-06-19, 18:36

Pretty interesting new War on Drugs series on History, first ep last night.

Acid, Spies, & Secret Experiments

New episodes every night this week I think.
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Post by GRR Spartan on 2017-06-19, 18:47

This is timely Dog Days of Summer bump
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Post by Nordic on 2017-06-19, 19:15

X was on a bender on 6/17... you still married bro?
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Re: The Drugs Thread

Post by steveschneider on 2017-06-19, 22:10

Anyone here smoke pot?

I'm thinking about picking it back up after like 20 years away from it. Beer was giving me a gut, and I've cut it out. I'm looking for something else to help take the edge off and figure pot is healthier alternative.

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Post by Stoops21 on 2017-06-20, 09:20

steveschneider wrote:Anyone here smoke pot?

I'm thinking about picking it back up after like 20 years away from it. Beer was giving me a gut, and I've cut it out. I'm looking for something else to help take the edge off and figure pot is healthier alternative.


Take a couple hits and stay away from edibles. Stuff is way stronger from 20 years ago.
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Post by steveschneider on 2017-06-20, 10:15

Stoops21 wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Anyone here smoke pot?

I'm thinking about picking it back up after like 20 years away from it. Beer was giving me a gut, and I've cut it out. I'm looking for something else to help take the edge off and figure pot is healthier alternative.


Take a couple hits and stay away from edibles. Stuff is way stronger from 20 years ago.

That was my plan. I was always wasted drunk whenever I smoked and it was never a fun experience.

I'm thinking just a puff here and there just to relax. Do you recommend papers, pipe, vape or bong?
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Post by Nordic on 2017-06-20, 13:22

steveschneider wrote:
Stoops21 wrote:

Take a couple hits and stay away from edibles. Stuff is way stronger from 20 years ago.

That was my plan. I was always wasted drunk whenever I smoked and it was never a fun experience.

I'm thinking just a puff here and there just to relax. Do you recommend papers, pipe, vape or bong?

Go see the fine folks at Greenlight in Troy

http://www.greenlitetroy.com/

Vape is better for your lungs. Low dose edibles are good. Just gotta ease into them.
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Post by steveschneider on 2017-06-20, 14:42

How bad are joints for the lungs? I think my preferred method is a rolled joint but if it's terrible I'll probably switch to a vape if I'm liking the stuff.
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Post by pulling69 on 2017-06-21, 01:48

steveschneider wrote:How bad are joints for the lungs? I think my preferred method is a rolled joint but if it's terrible I'll probably switch to a vape if I'm liking the stuff.

Joints, who does those anymore? Get a nice pipe and/or a sweet bong and go that route. Vape you can do with some oils/dabs but that will hit you hard.
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Re: The Drugs Thread

Post by Frank Ricard on 2017-06-21, 05:08

Jesus, I've lived a boring life. Think all these drugs should be legalized in some form, but have no interest in trying them. I'm good with 3 beers at a tailgate and a glass of wine after dinner.

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