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Post by aualum06 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:28 pm

steveschneider wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Black to Mate in 2.


Black bishop to a3 put king in check, black rook takes white rook check mate.

Wouldn't the king have to move to b1 to get out of check?
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:56 pm

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Black bishop to a3 put king in check, black rook takes white rook check mate.

Wouldn't the king have to move to b1 to get out of check?

Yep, exactly. Putting the king in check with the bishop it is forced to B2. There's no other possible move for the king and then rook takes the white rook for check mate.
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by aualum06 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:06 pm

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aualum06 wrote:

Wouldn't the king have to move to b1 to get out of check?

Yep, exactly. Putting the king in check with the bishop it is forced to B2. There's no other possible move for the king and then rook takes the white rook for check mate.

But it can't go E4 to B1 can it? Sorry I'm not a great chess player​
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by aualum06 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:07 pm

steveschneider wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

Wouldn't the king have to move to b1 to get out of check?

Yep, exactly. Putting the king in check with the bishop it is forced to B2. There's no other possible move for the king and then rook takes the white rook for check mate.

King can't go b2 Bishop would still have it in check would have to go b1
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:19 pm

aualum06 wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Yep, exactly. Putting the king in check with the bishop it is forced to B2. There's no other possible move for the king and then rook takes the white rook for check mate.

King can't go b2 Bishop would still have it in check would have to go b1

Moving to E4 would be impossible.

B2 is the only square the king can move to.

Here's how it works:

First move black bishop from d6 to a3. The bishop attacks the king on a diagonal line of black squares so B2 and C1 are being attacked by the bishop. The white king is on C1 and is being put in check by the bishop and when a king is in check it is forced to move.

The only square it can move to is B1 because the black rook on D8 has been exposed once the bishop moves and controls the D column.

King moves to b1 so on blacks second move it can take the white rook and it puts the king in check mate. There's no possible move for the king at that point.

I hope that is clear. If you are new to chess these types of puzzles are great.
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by aualum06 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:22 pm

steveschneider wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

King can't go b2 Bishop would still have it in check would have to go b1

Moving to E4 would be impossible.

B2 is the only square the king can move to.

Here's how it works:

First move black bishop from d6 to a3. The bishop attacks the king on a diagonal line of black squares so B2 and C1 are being attacked by the bishop. The white king is on C1 and is being put in check by the bishop and when a king is in check it is forced to move.

The only square it can move to is B1 because the black rook on D8 has been exposed once the bishop moves and controls the D column.

King moves to b1 so on blacks second move it can take the white rook and it puts the king in check mate. There's no possible move for the king at that point.

I hope that is clear. If you are new to chess these types of puzzles are great.

Sorry I'm a moron I was looking at the Knight not the rook. Don't know what I was thinking
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:22 pm

Also, I f'd up I shouldn't have typed B2 meant B1.
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:25 pm

aualum06 wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Moving to E4 would be impossible.

B2 is the only square the king can move to.

Here's how it works:

First move black bishop from d6 to a3. The bishop attacks the king on a diagonal line of black squares so B2 and C1 are being attacked by the bishop. The white king is on C1 and is being put in check by the bishop and when a king is in check it is forced to move.

The only square it can move to is B1 because the black rook on D8 has been exposed once the bishop moves and controls the D column.

King moves to b1 so on blacks second move it can take the white rook and it puts the king in check mate. There's no possible move for the king at that point.

I hope that is clear. If you are new to chess these types of puzzles are great.

Sorry I'm a moron I was looking at the Knight not the rook. Don't know what I was thinking

No worries, it's confusing shit to type out.
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by aualum06 on Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:26 pm

steveschneider wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

Sorry I'm a moron I was looking at the Knight not the rook. Don't know what I was thinking

No worries, it's confusing shit to type out.

Makes perfect sense when you look at the right pieces
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:19 am

LooseGoose wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

I don't see anyway white can win this in 2.

I'll leave it for a day, I know Nordy looks at these too.

Ooops....forgot about the spoiler box.

Spoiler:
H4-H6 Black is forced to PxR and then G6-G7++
OR Black can move the Bishop out.....and then it's RXP++
Once you move the R to H6 those are the only legal moves available to Black.

Just looked at the answer, that was a good one. I definitely didn't see that.
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by LooseGoose on Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:47 am

steveschneider wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

I'll leave it for a day, I know Nordy looks at these too.

Ooops....forgot about the spoiler box.

Spoiler:
H4-H6 Black is forced to PxR and then G6-G7++
OR Black can move the Bishop out.....and then it's RXP++
Once you move the R to H6 those are the only legal moves available to Black.

Just looked at the answer, that was a good one. I definitely didn't see that.

I didn't either, had to look at the solution.

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by LooseGoose on Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:00 pm

The Sublime Moves Of America’s New Chess Champion

1st part of story......what's the best move for Black in this position?



Spoiler:

D3-F2

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by LooseGoose on Sat May 13, 2017 7:45 pm

Can White prevent a Checkmate?

White to move.



Spoiler:
Kind of a weird one.
R-H7+ K-G3
R-E7! This move forces a stalemate.

If........ RxR immediate stalemate.

anywhere the Black Rook moves the White Rook can block him.
If Black moves any other piece
then it's
RxR and white should win.


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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by aualum06 on Sat May 13, 2017 8:12 pm

F2 ?
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by LooseGoose on Sat May 13, 2017 8:33 pm

aualum06 wrote:F2 ?

Unless I'm missing something that would be death -

F2 R-f8+

Back to G1 would be R-f1++
Any other move would be r-f1 and a Queen with the G2 pawn coming soon.

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by aualum06 on Sat May 13, 2017 8:49 pm

I misread I thought you meant in just one move not the rest of the moves
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by LooseGoose on Sat May 13, 2017 8:54 pm

aualum06 wrote:I misread I thought you meant in just one move not the rest of the moves

Sorry, I could have been clearer.

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by Nordic on Sat May 13, 2017 11:28 pm

Sacrifice the rook...you get two pawns and run like hell
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by LooseGoose on Wed May 17, 2017 3:07 pm

University Prep team lands national chess titles



Members of the University Prep Science and Math Elementary and Middle School chess teams practice every day, whether it’s in school, online or at the Detroit Institute of Arts.

That hard work paid off when they returned home national champions Sunday at the Supernationals IV Tournament in Nashville.

The teams from Detroit won first-place titles in the K6 under 1400 and the K8 under 750 sections.

“I feel good about how well my team did,” said Cameron Rector, a sixth-grader.

In addition to the team’s wins, Rector was named top chess player after taking the individual National Championships title in the “K8 under 750” section.

Competing alongside 379 players, Rector won all seven games.

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Wed May 17, 2017 3:49 pm

LooseGoose wrote:Can White prevent a Checkmate?

White to move.



Spoiler:
Kind of a weird one.  
R-H7+  K-G3
R-E7!         This move forces a stalemate.

If........ RxR  immediate stalemate.

anywhere the Black Rook moves the White Rook can block him.
If Black moves any other piece
then it's
RxR and white should win.
LooseGoose wrote:Can White prevent a Checkmate?

White to move.



Spoiler:
Kind of a weird one.  
R-H7+  K-G3
R-E7!         This move forces a stalemate.

If........ RxR  immediate stalemate.

anywhere the Black Rook moves the White Rook can block him.
If Black moves any other piece
then it's
RxR and white should win.

King moves to F2 if black rook co
LooseGoose wrote:Can White prevent a Checkmate?

White to move.



Spoiler:
Kind of a weird one.  
R-H7+  K-G3
R-E7!         This move forces a stalemate.

If........ RxR  immediate stalemate.

anywhere the Black Rook moves the White Rook can block him.
If Black moves any other piece
then it's
RxR and white should win.

You have to play for the draw. Rook goes over to H7 puts king in check, king has to move to G3, then rook moves to H3 to put king in check. Black has to take rook with pawn. Game over by draw since there's no move that white king can make.


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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Wed May 17, 2017 3:53 pm

LooseGoose wrote:The Sublime Moves Of America’s New Chess Champion

1st part of story......what's the best move for Black in this position?



Spoiler:

D3-F2

I'd probably move knight to E5
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Wed May 17, 2017 10:31 pm

Nordic wrote:Sacrifice the rook...you get two pawns and run like hell

A king and rook is enough material for check mate. See my answer, I figured out how to play for the draw.
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by BleacherSwill on Wed May 17, 2017 10:50 pm

steveschneider wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Can White prevent a Checkmate?

White to move.



Spoiler:
Kind of a weird one.  
R-H7+  K-G3
R-E7!         This move forces a stalemate.

If........ RxR  immediate stalemate.

anywhere the Black Rook moves the White Rook can block him.
If Black moves any other piece
then it's
RxR and white should win.
LooseGoose wrote:Can White prevent a Checkmate?

White to move.



Spoiler:
Kind of a weird one.  
R-H7+  K-G3
R-E7!         This move forces a stalemate.

If........ RxR  immediate stalemate.

anywhere the Black Rook moves the White Rook can block him.
If Black moves any other piece
then it's
RxR and white should win.

King moves to F2 if black rook co
LooseGoose wrote:Can White prevent a Checkmate?

White to move.



Spoiler:
Kind of a weird one.  
R-H7+  K-G3
R-E7!         This move forces a stalemate.

If........ RxR  immediate stalemate.

anywhere the Black Rook moves the White Rook can block him.
If Black moves any other piece
then it's
RxR and white should win.

You have to play for the draw. Rook goes over to H7 puts king in check, king has to move to G3, then rook moves to H3 to put king in check. Black has to take rook with pawn. Game over by draw since there's no move that white king can make.

White king takes rook at h3.

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by BleacherSwill on Wed May 17, 2017 10:52 pm

steveschneider wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:The Sublime Moves Of America’s New Chess Champion

1st part of story......what's the best move for Black in this position?



Spoiler:

D3-F2

I'd probably move knight to E5

If you do that you will lose a pawn and next move either your queen or rook. You must either mover a rook or the queen or protect the black pawn on a column with your first move.

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Wed May 17, 2017 11:13 pm

BleacherSwill wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

I'd probably move knight to E5

If you do that you will lose a pawn and next move either your queen or rook.  You must either mover a rook or the queen or protect the black pawn on a column with your first move.

The knight is protecting the pawn c4. What pawn would I lose if I moved the knight to that position? Losing the pawn at A6 doesn't concern me.
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Wed May 17, 2017 11:30 pm

BleacherSwill wrote:
steveschneider wrote:


King moves to F2 if black rook co


You have to play for the draw. Rook goes over to H7 puts king in check, king has to move to G3, then rook moves to H3 to put king in check. Black has to take rook with pawn. Game over by draw since there's no move that white king can make.

White king takes rook at h3.

You are right. That wouldn't avoid check mate. If the Rook goes to H8 puts the king in check black has to move to G3 then if the rook goes to E7 I think that would do it. If black takes the white rook then it's a draw. The white player has to play for draw by three fold repetition which means he has to keep moving the rook in front of the black rook. Either that or go for the draw by the 50 move rule.
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by BleacherSwill on Thu May 18, 2017 11:50 am

steveschneider wrote:
BleacherSwill wrote:

If you do that you will lose a pawn and next move either your queen or rook.  You must either mover a rook or the queen or protect the black pawn on a column with your first move.

The knight is protecting the pawn c4. What pawn would I lose if I moved the knight to that position? Losing the pawn at A6 doesn't concern me.

Where are you moving your queen after w knight captures pawn at A6?

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Thu May 18, 2017 8:30 pm

BleacherSwill wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

The knight is protecting the pawn c4. What pawn would I lose if I moved the knight to that position? Losing the pawn at A6 doesn't concern me.

Where are you moving your queen after w knight captures pawn at A6?

if the black player takes the pawn on A6 I'd take the rook at D4 with the queen. if the queen takes your queen your knight has a fork to put the queen in check.

Of course his knight can take your rook after that exchange but then your rook takes his knight. Seems like you come out with a material advantage up a knight.

What do you think?
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Post by BleacherSwill on Thu May 18, 2017 11:06 pm

steveschneider wrote:
BleacherSwill wrote:



Where are you moving your queen after w knight captures pawn at A6?

if the black player takes the pawn on A6 I'd take the rook at D4 with the queen. if the queen takes your queen your knight has a fork to put the queen in check.

Of course his knight can take your rook after that exchange but then your rook takes his knight. Seems like you come out with a material advantage up a knight.

What do you think?

Pawn capture queen at D4. No one is falling for placing the queen and king in jeopardy from the black knight. Now you have lost the black queen and the next move you will lose either your knight or rook. Or white pawn moves to the 7th row. Any number of white moves from here to get a larger advantage. Black loses soon.

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Fri May 19, 2017 2:43 pm

BleacherSwill wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

if the black player takes the pawn on A6 I'd take the rook at D4 with the queen. if the queen takes your queen your knight has a fork to put the queen in check.

Of course his knight can take your rook after that exchange but then your rook takes his knight. Seems like you come out with a material advantage up a knight.

What do you think?

Pawn capture queen at D4. No one is falling for placing the queen and king in jeopardy from the black knight. Now you have lost the black queen and the next move you will lose either your knight or rook. Or white pawn moves to the 7th row. Any number of white moves from here to get a larger advantage. Black loses soon.

Oops, my bad.

My last attempt and then I'm going to look at the spoiler.

Knight takes the f2 and attacks the White queen

King takes Knight

Rook B1 to B7 puts king in check

King moves out of check to one of three squares on row 1

Queen moves to H5 From there queen can attack E2 or H2 and possibly put king in checkmate.
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by BleacherSwill on Fri May 19, 2017 4:21 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
aualum06 wrote:F2 ?

Unless I'm missing something that would be death  -

F2    R-f8+

Back to G1 would be R-f1++
Any other move would be r-f1 and a Queen with the G2 pawn coming soon.

You are not missing anything.   knight to f2 is a turnover.

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by LooseGoose on Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:45 pm

Black Mates in 3.




Spoiler:
Nothing fancy:

1.........Qd2+
2.Bxd2 Rf2+
3.Qg2 Rfxg2#

Or you can use the other rook, 3...Rgxg2#

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by LooseGoose on Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:18 am

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St. Louis has become the capital of American chess. I went to check out a tournament in person.

Junior championships waged in stressful silence at Chess Club in Central West End

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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by steveschneider on Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:23 pm

LooseGoose wrote:Black Mates in 3.




Spoiler:
Nothing fancy:

1.........Qd2+
2.Bxd2 Rf2+
3.Qg2 Rfxg2#

Or you can use the other rook, 3...Rgxg2#

Too easy Queen down to D2 puts king in check

Bishop is forced to take queen

Bring rook down to f2 check

White is forced to put queen in front of king.

Next move take queen with rook and checkmate.
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Re: The Chess Thread

Post by LooseGoose on Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:21 am

American Chess Is Great Again A wealthy patron and a trio of grandmasters are coming for Bobby Fischer’s legacy.

But American chess was in the midst of a bleak century, only rarely punctuated by triumph. Paul Morphy, the great chess genius and Steinitz’s unofficial predecessor, died of a stroke in the bath at age 47, just a couple of years before Steinitz won. Contemporary reports described him as “insane,” walking the streets “chattering to himself.” Steinitz died, penniless and mentally ill, in a state hospital in 1900. Bobby Fischer, the only modern American world champion, failed to defend his title in 1975, descended into paranoia and anti-Semitism, and later praised the terrorist attacks of 9/11. Since Fischer’s exit, no American has ever been ranked the world No. 1. Only two Americans — Fischer and Gata Kamsky — have played in the world championship finals in the last 100 years.

But this string of misfortune may be about to end, thanks to some quintessentially American ideals: mobility and prosperity. A trio of players — both native and immigrant — have found their way to the U.S., and each now ranks in the top seven in the world.

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