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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-05-05, 19:37

Welp. He gone. Guess we can't lose what we never had.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-06, 15:23

We're up to 3rd.

College basketball rankings: Bill Self’s Kansas Jayhawks No. 1 in Top 25 (and one)

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-08, 17:17

So now we have:

Tum/Winston PG
Langford/McQuaid SG
Bridges/Jackson SF
Ward/Tillman PF
Schilling/Carter/Goins C

Ahrens really ought to redshirt.

1 Schollie still open.

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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by Floyd Robertson on 2017-05-08, 17:22

LooseGoose wrote:So now we have:

Tum/Winston PG
Langford/McQuaid SG
Bridges/Jackson SF
Ward/Tillman PF
Schilling/Carter/Goins C

Ahrens really ought to redshirt.

1 Schollie still open.

Will Ahrens still get his Natty ring if he sits out the year?
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-08, 17:24

The more I look at that - and this may be irrational exuberance - but if they all stayed healthy that 2nd team might win the B1GTen.

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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-08, 18:11

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Louisville was the clear choice for Preseason number one if it had Donovan Mitchell. Without him, Michigan State takes spot with Ben Carter.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-08, 19:12

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NBC Sports rank #MichiganState #1 in their way-too-early College Basketball Preseason Top 25

And NBC had us #1 before Carter.

2017-18 College Basketball Preseason Top 25

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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-05-08, 19:15

Is Carter really good enough to make a difference? I know nothing about him.

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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-08, 19:20

tGreenWay wrote:Is Carter really good enough to make a difference? I know nothing about him.

Averaged 6 rebounds and 9 points in the last season he played. For UNLV in the Mountain West. He's not a star but he's adequate. We'll have 15 fouls there with Schilling, Carter & Goins.

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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-05-08, 19:55

And we'll use them all.

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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by Cameron on 2017-05-08, 21:04

LooseGoose wrote:So now we have:

Tum/Winston PG
Langford/McQuaid SG
Bridges/Jackson SF
Ward/Tillman PF
Schilling/Carter/Goins C

Ahrens really ought to redshirt.

1 Schollie still open.

I'll be very surprised if Jackson plays any minutes at SF. But if he does, we could put some killer huge lineups out there. Something like:

PG: Winston
SG: Bridges
SF: Jackson
PF: Tillman
C: Ward

Obviously we could mix and match lots of different PF/C pairings, but that would give us tons of size and tons of skill. We could also put an awesome small ball lineup out there (though Izzo doesn't really do that much, so I doubt we'll see it):

PG: Winston
SG: McQuaid
SF: Langford
PF: Bridges
C: Jackson

But, honestly, I think our best lineup will end up being:

PG: Winston
SG: Langford
SF: Bridges
PF: Jackson
C: Ward

And I think that will be clearly our best lineup pretty early in the season, if I were to predict.
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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-05-08, 21:13

Remember CBS analyst/color commentator Billy Packer? He would say a team needed at least three future NBA players in order to win the NCAA hoops title. I've never checked to see if this is axiomatically true, but our 2000 champs had Cleaves, Bell, Richardson, and Peterson.
Are there at least three future NBAers on next year's teams? Bridges, Jackson, and then ?

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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-05-08, 21:14

JJJ will play mostly 4 I think, I agree with Cameron. He's a stretch 4.

4 will be JJJ/Goins/Carter

5 will be Ward/Schilling

We absolutely need Ahrens, the weak spot on this team is the wing depth.

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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by Cameron on 2017-05-08, 21:18

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:JJJ will play mostly 4 I think, I agree with Cameron. He's a stretch 4.

4 will be JJJ/Goins/Carter

5 will be Ward/Schilling

We absolutely need Ahrens, the weak spot on this team is the wing depth.

If we have any injuries among Winston/Nairn/Langford/McQuaid, Bridges should play a lot of SG (so Ahrens would get a lot of SF minutes). If those 4 are healthy, we should be in good shape.
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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by gHost Spartan on 2017-05-08, 21:21

Hopefully these punks will have great chemistry. I'm really excited about next year as well, gonna hit some of the non-conference games again like I did this year.
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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by Cameron on 2017-05-08, 21:33

gHost Spartan wrote:Hopefully these punks will have great chemistry. I'm really excited about next year as well, gonna hit some of the non-conference games again like I did this year.

Honestly, I think talent is more important than chemistry. Zel's senior year I feel like the chemistry was pretty good, and the results were obviously not good. Conversely, I feel like the chemistry on the Lucas/Summers final four teams wasn't always the best, but there was a lot of talent, and the results were pretty good. When you have talent AND chemistry, you get the Flintstones. So I agree with you that I hope the chemistry is good, but I think we'll have enough talent to weather the storm if the chemistry takes a while to develop.
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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by DWags on 2017-05-08, 21:51

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gHost Spartan wrote:Hopefully these punks will have great chemistry. I'm really excited about next year as well, gonna hit some of the non-conference games again like I did this year.

Honestly, I think talent is more important than chemistry. .

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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by GRR Spartan on 2017-05-08, 22:02

Carter got the 6th year waiver.

His knees haven't confirmed they are included.
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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by Cameron on 2017-05-08, 23:11

DWags wrote:
Cameron wrote:

Honestly, I think talent is more important than chemistry. .

Sincerely,

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Apples to oranges, but your point is well taken. They both matter, I just think, at least in hoops, talent matters more.
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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-09, 17:23

ESPN: MSU hoops on way up; UM in limbo

The state’s biggest basketball programs — Michigan State and Michigan — have seen their offseasons shaped by NBA draft.

ESPN took stock Tuesday of college basketball teams that have improved since the national title game last month, which are in turmoil, and which must simply wait.

The Spartans landed in the first category, and the Wolverines are in the last.

MSU sophomore Miles Bridges chose to stay for another season in East Lansing, catapulting the Spartans firmly into Big Ten title contention — at minimum — and even landing at the top of some preseason rankings.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-10, 16:01

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Post by The Pantry on 2017-05-11, 13:45

Heard we're getting a 6-11 transfer for the 18/19 season
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Post by The Pantry on 2017-05-11, 14:05

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-12, 20:09

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Michigan State jumps Kentucky and is now favored to win the 2018 NCAA Tournament
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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-05-12, 20:13

That's because we've answered the challenge of some tough games in the past couple of weeks.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-13, 09:57

NCAA proposes minor rules changes for men's basketball

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Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

Post by Cameron on 2017-05-13, 12:39

LooseGoose wrote:NCAA proposes minor rules changes for men's basketball

So they aren't going to quarters because of the commercial breaks? It shouldn't be hard to figure out how to have the same number of commercials per game. If anything, two extra natural stoppages should make it easier to fit all the commercials in. Dumb.
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Post by CheesySpartan on 2017-05-13, 12:51

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Let's get em printed ASAP...

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-13, 16:39

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-16, 09:50

Izzo setting up 40-0.

Michigan State's originally scheduled game at Florida for this season is pushed to 2018-19

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Post by Death Roe on 2017-05-17, 12:25

What an incredible non-con game!

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-18, 19:15

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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-05-18, 21:42

Is that even safe? I'd worry about infection.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-19, 15:04

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-05-19, 15:13

Wearing the ol 23. Thems some big shoes to fill.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-22, 08:26

Fresh look at Miles Bridges' offseason workout reveals a man in midseason form



Fasihi, who has worked with current and former NBA players Robert Covington, Rajon Rondo, Jae Crowder, Iman Shumpert, Jarnell Stokes, Fab Melo and Vander Blue, said Bridges' athleticism is "already clearly at an NBA level."

Fasihi added, with a laugh, "Man, he really likes to work."

Bridges returned to Michigan on Sunday morning.

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