How Clinton lost Michigan — and blew the election

GRR Spartan wrote:

TheReal_LWS wrote:



Truth. Their butt hurt is strong.

Why are you choosing to post like this?
A return to your former trolling self?

Trump won MI.  
Clinton had more campaign offices, more full time paid staffers and more volunteers under the direction of those staffers.  

But by election day all that money and all those advantages couldn't get 30,000 more people who voted for President Obama twice to vote in 2016.

You want to join a couple of other posters who do nothing but troll go ahead. Its your right to do so.

GRR Spartan wrote:Didn't take too long.

For a few months you weren't a troll.
Too bad you've decided to revert to this.

Happy your illness didn't kill you.
Good bye.

AnomanderRake wrote:

The_Dude wrote:Its great seeing the complete destruction of the Democratic party.

And the best thing? Polls have already shown that the 3 most popular Dems to run in 2020 are all old as fuck white people! Biden Bernie, Warren.

You're delusional if you think people are going to be clamoring for 4 more years of Trump. This election will reinvigorate the democratic base and in 4 years all the democrats will have to do is put forth a somewhat competent candidate and the white house will turn over again.

Ironically, I think the democrats might actually struggle to put forth a competent candidate because let's be honest, both parties have been trying to shovel shit down our throats for years now.

On another note, someone mentioned above that the democratic party has to return to the center to win back voters. I would argue that they need to do the exact opposite. The democratic party and republican party are both filled with corporate puppets and Americans are realizing that. The election of Trump this year showed that many Americans want an anti-establishment candidate/party and if they don't get a candidate they like, they might just stay home.

I personally was much more excited to vote for a real progressive candidate like Bernie, but reluctantly cast my vote for the establishment candidate Hillary. I think every year we continue this charade, more voters will be lost by attrition until the parties begin shifting to mobilize more voters again. Now it's a question of how long that will take and how bad things will get before it happens.

The_Dude wrote:

AnomanderRake wrote:

You're delusional if you think people are going to be clamoring for 4 more years of Trump. This election will reinvigorate the democratic base and in 4 years all the democrats will have to do is put forth a somewhat competent candidate and the white house will turn over again.

Ironically, I think the democrats might actually struggle to put forth a competent candidate because let's be honest, both parties have been trying to shovel shit down our throats for years now.

On another note, someone mentioned above that the democratic party has to return to the center to win back voters. I would argue that they need to do the exact opposite. The democratic party and republican party are both filled with corporate puppets and Americans are realizing that. The election of Trump this year showed that many Americans want an anti-establishment candidate/party and if they don't get a candidate they like, they might just stay home.

I personally was much more excited to vote for a real progressive candidate like Bernie, but reluctantly cast my vote for the establishment candidate Hillary. I think every year we continue this charade, more voters will be lost by attrition until the parties begin shifting to mobilize more voters again. Now it's a question of how long that will take and how bad things will get before it happens.

Incumbents almost always win and if you think these Midwest states are going back to the Democratic Party that abandoned them and only offer up establishment people..lol.

And trump won despite not having a ground game or spending a ton. He will have both in 4 years.

Dems already hsve shown they aren't interested in winning. Keeping Pelosi and fighting Trump on china are grave mistakes. Democratic Party is no longer the party for the working class. Dems have no economic message to sell the voters on.