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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-01-11, 18:58

Solari has a story on the PWO's.

6 5  Michigan State lands preferred walk-on in Carleton's Brent Mossburg

Brent Mossburg @brent_mossburg
Ever since I was little I have dreamt of playing at MSU and I have finally decided to commit and further my careeer in EL #SpartyOn #V4MSU

Yep, sounds like a kid the a-holes here should knock.

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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-01-11, 19:50

Nordic wrote:tDude is saying that there are far less 5 stars than 2 stars. So the % chance of a 5 star being sweet good is higher than a 2 star. He's done the secret math on how to successfully recruit. Just sign high star players.

But what he chooses to ignore is their are more 2 and 3 star players out their that will pan out than 5 star. And there are teams that have a proven track record of identifing/developing those players...like MSU, Wisconsin, etc.

Now tDude will counter with, how many Championships have those teams won and point to team crootin' rankings of NC teams.

Well, there are plenty of teams that fail hard with these so called can't miss croots. It is not the stars that make the player. It is the teams that can evaluate the good from the trash regardless of star level. Would I rather pull from the so calles elite pool? Yep. BUT WE WILL NEVER OUT RECRUIT BAMA/ETC. So that is not a sustainable option.

We can, however, recruit players that win BIG Champioships. And that is usually good enough to get in the playoffs.

But but but but...Penn St didn't get in this year?!? Yeah, but a BIG team did and has every year, including MSU.

But I'm afraid to go again Bluto, we lost a gazillion to nothing last time. I don't want to go without 5 star croots. Yep and so did OSU. And we probably lose again, but if you have a chip and a chair anything can happen.

Did I cover everything? This topic is more stale than tanfan/duffy street fight.

There's a zero percent chance the_douche will comprehend any of this. You minus well have posted it in Swahili.

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Post by Nordic on 2017-01-11, 20:10

I don't know Swahili GreenWay
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-11, 20:11

Buzz is we might be getting a visit and commitment from Antjuan (sp?) Simmons, LB from AA Pioneer this weekend. HE'S GOT STARZ!!!

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Post by Nordic on 2017-01-11, 20:13

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Buzz is we might be getting a visit and commitment from Antjuan (sp?) Simmons, LB from AA Pioneer this weekend. HE'S GOT STARZ!!!

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-01-11, 20:15

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Buzz is we might be getting a visit and commitment from Antjuan (sp?) Simmons, LB from AA Pioneer this weekend. HE'S GOT STARZ!!!

Buckeye DeCommit.....supposedly was going to the Irish at that point.


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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-11, 20:17

Teammate of Bad Moon Jr, who is already on campus and enrolled and gonna pitch hard I would imagine.

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Post by Nordic on 2017-01-11, 20:33

Sounds like Simmons is pretty much a done deal...there was a flood of ballz today
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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-01-11, 20:37

Nordic wrote:I don't know Swahili GreenWay

Hiyo ni mbaya sana.

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Re: tOfficial MSU Football Recruiting Thread: Class of 2017

Post by Nordic on 2017-01-11, 21:18

Predict our finish.

Coming...

DE Cumberland - His comments when offered pretty much said it all

DL Peat - All of WBH's info + 810spartan dude at 247 says the same. Not a freshie, but still takes a schollie spot

LB Simmons - LB is a definite need and lots of smoke today that he is going to be green.

DE Rodgers - J-Rich cousin right? Michigan native with a recent offer and it looks like we offered a lot of DEs recently. Late OV though, so MSU might be trying to see what happens with the dudes above.

RB Lovett - Just looking at the RBs we are looking at, their offers, where they are from, OV dates, etc. He seems like the most logical choice to commit. If not him we'll definitely take another RB.

WR Blackshear - OV scheduled, he'll flip (to someone) over Temple. Pretty obv we are taking another slot guy.

WR Oliver Martin - Admittedly this is a wish list player. No tea leave reading on this pick other than he is coming for an OV this weekend, we seemed to be on him earlier than others and the Rocky/Iowa connection.

Signing elsewhere...

RB Cordarrian Richardason - See above

CB Amir Speed - Little buzz on him. Geography.

S Culpepper - Safety doesn't seem like a big need. But coming back this weekend for another visit... so who knows.

DE Porcher - Lots of DEs above and geography

WR Jaylen Harris - OSU

WR Danny Davis - Seems to have been little interest on both sides

ATH Lynn Bowden - His name still pops up. But it seems pretty obv to me that there are some concerns.


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Post by Herbie Green on 2017-01-11, 21:23

I predict MSU will sign about 22 players mostly 3 stars and they will take us back to the playoffs or back to 3-9 or somewhere in between
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Post by Death Roe on 2017-01-11, 21:24

Herbie Green wrote:I predict MSU will sign about 22 players mostly 3 stars and they will take us back to the playoffs or back to 3-9 or somewhere in between

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Re: tOfficial MSU Football Recruiting Thread: Class of 2017

Post by Nordic on 2017-01-11, 21:29

Herbie Green wrote:I predict MSU will sign about 22 players mostly 3 stars and they will take us back to the playoffs or back to 3-9 or somewhere in between

I agree
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Re: tOfficial MSU Football Recruiting Thread: Class of 2017

Post by Herbie Green on 2017-01-11, 21:34

Nordic wrote:tDude is saying that there are far less 5 stars than 2 stars. So the % chance of a 5 star being sweet good is higher than a 2 star. He's done the secret math on how to successfully recruit. Just sign high star players.

But what he chooses to ignore is their are more 2 and 3 star players out their that will pan out than 5 star. And there are teams that have a proven track record of identifing/developing those players...like MSU, Wisconsin, etc.

Now tDude will counter with, how many Championships have those teams won and point to team crootin' rankings of NC teams.

Well, there are plenty of teams that fail hard with these so called can't miss croots. It is not the stars that make the player. It is the teams that can evaluate the good from the trash regardless of star level. Would I rather pull from the so calles elite pool? Yep. BUT WE WILL NEVER OUT RECRUIT BAMA/ETC. So that is not a sustainable option.

We can, however, recruit players that win BIG Champioships. And that is usually good enough to get in the playoffs.

But but but but...Penn St didn't get in this year?!? Yeah, but a BIG team did and has every year, including MSU.

But I'm afraid to go again Bluto, we lost a gazillion to nothing last time. I don't want to go without 5 star croots. Yep and so did OSU. And we probably lose again, but if you have a chip and a chair anything can happen.

Did I cover everything? This topic is more stale than tanfan/duffy street fight.

This is one of the best posts I have ever read and I actually mean that sincerely.

I want to add to it but can never get the words to go together right and it turns into run on mumbo jumbo. I tip my cap to you Nordic
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Re: tOfficial MSU Football Recruiting Thread: Class of 2017

Post by LooseGoose on 2017-01-12, 09:54


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Re: tOfficial MSU Football Recruiting Thread: Class of 2017

Post by Nordic on 2017-01-12, 11:45


Porcher becomes more interesting with his dad still living in the Detroit.

Orlando Dr. Phillips DE Robert Porcher

The name Porcher is very familiar to those who grew up following the Detroit Lions. MSU fans would love to see the younger Porcher terrorize Big Ten quarterbacks the same way his dad did years ago. The elder Porcher still lives in the Detroit area and the opportunity to play close to family could be a positive in his recruitment.
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Re: tOfficial MSU Football Recruiting Thread: Class of 2017

Post by Clarett's Folly on 2017-01-12, 12:00

Nordic wrote:

Porcher becomes more interesting with his dad still living in the Detroit.

Orlando Dr. Phillips DE Robert Porcher

The name Porcher is very familiar to those who grew up following the Detroit Lions. MSU fans would love to see the younger Porcher terrorize Big Ten quarterbacks the same way his dad did years ago. The elder Porcher still lives in the Detroit area and the opportunity to play close to family could be a positive in his recruitment.

I want his commitment simply because his dad was such a badass.
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Re: tOfficial MSU Football Recruiting Thread: Class of 2017

Post by 1adam12 on 2017-01-12, 15:56

Tyjon Lindsey just offered by MSU.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-01-12, 16:13

Jeremy Warnemuende ‏@JSWarno247 3h3 hours ago
Jeremy Warnemuende Retweeted ATC1$$
2017 Georgia CB Tre Person picks up MSU offer. Committed to Georgia Southern in October.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-01-12, 16:24

1adam12 wrote:Tyjon Lindsey just offered by MSU.

As the man said...

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@MSUTSamuel This is for you momma... Thanks to Michigan State University for this offer.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-01-12, 19:59

Antjuan Simmons ‏@_antjuan_ 12m12 minutes ago
This Saturday I'll be announcing where I'll be spending the next 4 years of my life at!! #GOGREEN #beardown #GoIrish #gobucks

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-01-12, 20:00

IF he's going to be on campus and announcing....well I feel pretty good about that.

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Post by Clarett's Folly on 2017-01-12, 20:01

LooseGoose wrote:Antjuan Simmons ‏@_antjuan_ 12m12 minutes ago
This Saturday I'll be announcing where I'll be spending the next 4 years of my life at!! #GOGREEN #beardown #GoIrish #gobucks

My man... We just went 3-9... We have no patience for this announcement bullshit. You coming or nah?
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-12, 22:09

Ok I just watched Simmons Sr video. I think I may have read he was hurt for some of the year?

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3115250/58130e11688ec47bec9fee93

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Post by DWags on 2017-01-12, 22:10

Nice.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-13, 10:37

It was expected, but WR Jaylen Harris commits to OSU. We were hoping they didn't have room to take him but with the recent decommit, a transfer and some guy declaring, that killed the chance they would pass on him. Must be nice to be able to cherry pick the way they do.

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Post by The_Dude on 2017-01-13, 12:15

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Post by 1adam12 on 2017-01-13, 13:23

Can't wait for Les to take the Western job so we can be out recruited by them too.
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Post by NigelUno on 2017-01-13, 13:34

1adam12 wrote:Can't wait for Les to take the Western job so we can be out recruited by them too.

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Post by kingstonlake on 2017-01-13, 13:36

The_Dude wrote:3 star U baby

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Post by Nordic on 2017-01-13, 13:37

NigelUno wrote:
1adam12 wrote:Can't wait for Les to take the Western job so we can be out recruited by them too.

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Post by Nordic on 2017-01-13, 13:42

BTW...what happened to the other pages in this thread?

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Post by InTenSity on 2017-01-13, 14:17

Nordic wrote:BTW...what happened to the other pages in this thread?

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-01-13, 22:24

3* From Georgia.....this might be interesting.

Luke Srodulski ‏@lsrodulski 3h3 hours ago
Michigan RB commit Kurt Taylor has planned an official visit to Michigan State after picking up an offer.


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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-13, 22:28

Supposably the guy we really want is John Lovett. Sounds like the interest in the Richardson kid is the backup plan, and he's not feeling the love because of it. Surprising to a lot of player's brother types because Richardson is much higher rated but our staff likes the Lovett kid better. Wonder if this Taylor is the new backup.

Here's Lovett

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/4501453/5721e66590eead5d90ed56bb

We are gonna get some commits this weekend, starting with Simmons tomorrow. I would expect he and Cumberlander at minimum.

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Post by DWags on 2017-01-13, 23:13

WBH. What rank would you give this class compared to all of Dantonio's other classes.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-14, 00:10

This is BY FAR the most attention I've ever paid to crooting. Just happen to be a bit bored this year. My little one is outta diapers and life is easing up on me a bit and I have more free time than I know what to do with, I guess. Thankfully work hasn't kicked me in the ass this year like it did last year around this time. That could change.

I said before, our class is about on par with what we've always done. Probably not quite as highly rated as last year's, but would be higher than most others. That's considering average ranking. Most of the services out there don't rank classes on average rating, they rank them on numbers and rating. So if you run off players every year and sign 23-25 recruits every year, you're going to be at the top of those rankings. Also it is an "off the record" acknowledged fact by employees of these sites that ratings are bumped based on the traffic of a particular school's site so they should all be taken with a grain of salt. Watch the films yourselves and evaluate, or better yet, just ask SpartanRocky to do it.

MSU currently has 17 or 18 (can't remember) commits and we usually sign 14-17 because we RS a lot of kids. I love that plan. However, because of the '12 and '13 classes and additional unplanned roster attrition, we're going to have room this year for 25 (and maybe more). I think we're going to get up to around at least 23+ (including Peat) and I think we're going to be very happy with those kids. Our staff is outfuckingstanding at finding talent that is willing to work to become great.

The hidden gem in this class from what I've heard from player's brothers is going to be Leshawn Paulino. Really athletic rush edge kid out of FL that we got in early on and others followed, yet he remained green. Has elite talent at turning the corner.

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Post by Nordic on 2017-01-14, 01:01

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Supposably the guy we really want is John Lovett. Sounds like the interest in the Richardson kid is the backup plan, and he's not feeling the love because of it. Surprising to a lot of player's brother types because Richardson is much higher rated but our staff likes the Lovett kid better. Wonder if this Taylor is the new backup.

Here's Lovett

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/4501453/5721e66590eead5d90ed56bb

We are gonna get some commits this weekend, starting with Simmons tomorrow. I would expect he and Cumberlander at minimum.

Richardson decommits from Clemson late (end of the semester) and then looks at Ole Miss, UCF(?) and MSU. MSU is in play for about a week....then not so much.

Tea leaves...Ole Miss is the main clue.

$20 he ends up at a JUCO
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