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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by DWags on Fri 5 May - 10:11

Antifa are the people who fought with the nazi's at Berkley. "Anti fascists". That's where some here celebrated the girl getting kicked after she was hit by the guy there.


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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Robert J Sakimano on Fri 5 May - 10:14

DWags wrote:Antifa are the people who fought with the nazi's at Berkley. "Anti fascists". That's where some here celebrated the girl getting kicked after she was hit by the guy there.

thanks.

yeah, I don't keep up with that sort of thing... I just know that 81% of "christians" voted for someone who brags about sexually assaulting women.. and some people here joyfully support a female being struck in the face.

those republicans are a bunch of real winners, aren't they? Rolling Eyes

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by xsanguine on Fri 5 May - 12:25

DWags wrote:Antifa are the people who fought with the nazi's at Berkley. "Anti fascists". That's where some here celebrated the girl getting kicked after she was hit by the guy there.




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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Fri 5 May - 14:28

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Cameron wrote:

He's welcome to get upset at Colbert, and even to call for his firing. If Goose and his fellow travelers aren't using violence or the threat of violence to silence Colbert, they are using free speech correctly (and maintaining the moral high ground relative to antifa, not that anybody was talking about antifa, but I connected the dots...).
I've never heard of "antifa".. not sure who it is.

yes, Goosechev and the other republicans can certainly whine and sniffle about a comedian mocking their insecure, sexual predator president.. and I can point and laugh at them as they do.


He's your President too darling. Think about that all weekend.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by xsanguine on Fri 5 May - 14:54

xsanguine wrote:
DWags wrote:Antifa are the people who fought with the nazi's at Berkley. "Anti fascists". That's where some here celebrated the girl getting kicked after she was hit by the guy there.




BOOM!!!

And yes, she deserved it. I know that's not how you suburban-raised types were brought up... but in the real world if you show up to someone else's party in masks just to throw bottles at them... they'll probably beat the shit out of you.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Sat 13 May - 9:18


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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by DWags on Sat 13 May - 10:57

LooseGoose wrote:

Love that republicans are equating this.

Jersey= Treason

I'm just going to guess the FBI will make sure that the T's are crossed here. With or without Comey.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by NigelUno on Sat 13 May - 11:32

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Tom Brady?

The guy who destroyed evidence (his phone) and still got suspended by the NFL for cheating/being a liar?

Nice comparison.

Really.

Well done.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by DWags on Sat 13 May - 11:45

Comey wants to testify according to friends.... publicly.

Wings not in playoffs
Tigers taking the gas pipe
Off season at MSU

This is by far the best entertainment going. What a circus.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Sat 13 May - 11:49

LooseGoose wrote:

This is pretty fucking dumb on quite a few different levels.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Cameron on Sat 13 May - 12:25

When it comes to memes, Goose is Curt Schilling.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Rocinante on Sat 13 May - 19:33

Good one Cam

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Sun 14 May - 9:51

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

This is pretty fucking dumb on quite a few different levels.

I got a chuckle when I read it. Sorry that your sense of humor is lacking when it comes to the political circus.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Sun 14 May - 19:23

LooseGoose wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

This is pretty fucking dumb on quite a few different levels.

I got a chuckle when I read it. Sorry that your sense of humor is lacking when it comes to the political circus.

It's a pretty fucking dumb meme Goose. Like something a high school dropout would find funny.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on Sun 14 May - 20:22

I don't really get it, you guys will have to fill me in.

Is it the right's contention that Russia didn't mess with the election? I thought that was pretty factual at this point.

Is it their contention that they didn't mess with the election because they wanted Trump in office? I thought that was also pretty factual.

Or is it their contention that Trump wasn't complicit in the Russians messing with the election?

I have to be honest, and I only know a little bit. I think the chances are pretty slim that Trump conspired with the Russians to rig the election for him. Possible, but pretty small.

I would think the chances of him unknowingly helping them mess with the election (because he's a fucking dumbass), or the chances of some of his associates conspiring with them to help rig the election are a little higher. Like maybe 25-35% chance that happened.

Does that seem about right or am I off?

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by tGreenWay on Sun 14 May - 20:27

If the Right admits that Russia messed around with our election, it delegitimizes Trump and the entire GOP mandate.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Cameron on Sun 14 May - 20:35

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I don't really get it, you guys will have to fill me in.

Is it the right's contention that Russia didn't mess with the election? I thought that was pretty factual at this point.

I think their contention is generally something closer to "whatever meddling Russia may have done/attempted, it didn't affect the outcome."

Is it their contention that they didn't mess with the election because they wanted Trump in office? I thought that was also pretty factual.

Or is it their contention that Trump wasn't complicit in the Russians messing with the election?

I think most would say that Trump personally had nothing to do with it. I don't know what the conservative consensus is about whether or not anyone in Trump's campaign is guilty of anything, I've seen conservatives on both sides of that.

I have to be honest, and I only know a little bit. I think the chances are pretty slim that Trump conspired with the Russians to rig the election for him. Possible, but pretty small.

I tend to agree. I've often thought that his defensiveness about the Russia stuff seems suspicious, but upon further reflection, I think that's just his insecurity manifesting itself. He can't accept even the slightest hint that his election wasn't a total victory, and he does things in service of his electoral self-aggrandizement that seem somehow nefarious but are in fact just vain and stupid.

I would think the chances of him unknowingly helping them mess with the election (because he's a fucking dumbass), or the chances of some of his associates conspiring with them to help rig the election are a little higher. Like maybe 25-35% chance that happened.

Does that seem about right or am I off?

I agree with that.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by DWags on Sun 14 May - 20:38

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I don't really get it, you guys will have to fill me in.

Is it the right's contention that Russia didn't mess with the election? I thought that was pretty factual at this point.

Is it their contention that they didn't mess with the election because they wanted Trump in office? I thought that was also pretty factual.

Or is it their contention that Trump wasn't complicit in the Russians messing with the election?

I have to be honest, and I only know a little bit. I think the chances are pretty slim that Trump conspired with the Russians to rig the election for him. Possible, but pretty small.

I would think the chances of him unknowingly helping them mess with the election (because he's a fucking dumbass), or the chances of some of his associates conspiring with them to help rig the election are a little higher. Like maybe 25-35% chance that happened.

Does that seem about right or am I off?


I think most people believe Russia destabilized our election. The question is did the Trump campaign become complicit in that? As of right now, no evidence exists in the public. Maybe there isn't. But the FBI probably has an idea. If the campaign was involved and coordinating (still no public evidence) how high up did it go? Flynn wants immunity to say things. Why? All of this shit is just being thrown around by the left because they want to make political hay of it. We don't know shit.

Nixon didn't know that AG Mitchell and CREEP (the committee to re elect the president) broke into the Watergate. But he sure as hell helped them cover it up. Taped himself doing it. At one point telling John dean he could get a million dollars cash by end of business tomorrow to keep guys mouths shut.

IF the Trum campaign conspired with Russia it's a treasonous act. IF IF If. I want to emphasize that. But unlike you I believe IF they did there is a 100% chance Trump knew. Can you prove that? Damn hard. But all of this shit just 115 days in is really fucked up. This guy scares me.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Mon 15 May - 7:39

DWags wrote: But all of this shit just 115 days in is really fucked up. This guy scares me.

Simple yes or no.

IF after the investigations are done this turns out to be all ginned up BS by the Dems will yo be pissed at them for putting our country through the turmoil for political gain?

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by DWags on Mon 15 May - 8:22

Yes.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Mon 15 May - 8:32

LooseGoose wrote:
DWags wrote: But all of this shit just 115 days in is really fucked up. This guy scares me.

Simple yes or no.

IF after the investigations are done this turns out to be all ginned up BS by the Dems will yo be pissed at them for putting our country through the turmoil for political gain?

Simple yes or no.

IF after the investigations about Obama wipretaps and voter fraud are done this turns out to be all ginned up BS by Trump will you be pissed at him for putting our country through the turmoil for political gain?
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on Mon 15 May - 9:11

Again I question what "this" is. It's used very broadly here.

Are we saying that "this" includes Russian tampering with the election? Is the implication that the Dems made that up?

Does "this" include acceptance that the Russians DID tamper and wanted Captain Dipshit to win the election?

Where is the line between Dems drumming "this" up and what we are conceding as factual at this point?

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on Mon 15 May - 9:17

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Again I question what "this" is. It's used very broadly here.

Are we saying that "this" includes Russian tampering with the election? Is the implication that the Dems made that up?

Does "this" include acceptance that the Russians DID tamper and wanted Captain Dipshit to win the election?

Where is the line between Dems drumming "this" up and what we are conceding as factual at this point?

In the case of goose asking that question, anything short of the biggest scandal in history would fall short of "this."

We already know for a fact that Russia had their hands in the election, both sides acknowledge that. The question is to what extent and if it mattered. That's what we don't know, and is sort of the point of "investigations." You don't already know the answer ahead of time. That's why you "investigate."

Now, if the democrats were to be told time and time again that there's nothing there but press on until the election to smear the president's name and muddy people's vision when voting in 2020, only to drop the investigation a week after the election, that would bother me.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Mon 15 May - 9:23

For the record Goose, one of the reasons this investigation is taking so long and will be even longer now is because your fucking dolt of a president can't get out of his own idiotic way. The latest threat he tweeted at Comey warrants another issue to investigate. Did he illegally record conversations? Might he illegally destroy the tapes? Gotta be investigated now, because he's such a massive fuck clown he thinks threats will make things go away.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39918407
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by GRR Spartan on Mon 15 May - 11:55


Trump is our President because he won The Electoral College. However that win doesn't mean he can run the country like he's run his businesses.

That law stuff still gets in the way.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by NigelUno on Mon 15 May - 12:07

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:For the record Goose, one of the reasons this investigation is taking so long and will be even longer now is because your fucking dolt of a president can't get out of his own idiotic way. The latest threat he tweeted at Comey warrants another issue to investigate. Did he illegally record conversations? Might he illegally destroy the tapes? Gotta be investigated now, because he's such a massive fuck clown he thinks threats will make things go away.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39918407

I think Trump was trying to make a joke...that he (sarcastically) hoped Comey didn't tape/wiretap their conversations like he thinks the FBI (or someone) did in Trump Tower.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Rocinante on Mon 15 May - 13:11

Widespread voter fraud is fake
Obama wiretaps is fake
Russian meddling in the election is real and proven.
Collusion between Trump and Russia is still being evaluated.

That's the whole story. It's the height of hypocrisy to get all mad at the democraps about pushing a "false narrative" when the investigation is ongoing. Get mad at your president for his demonstrably false claims and propaganda.

Obviously this investigation is leading to SOMETHING. The financial records requests and expanding scope means it's leading somewhere. Whether Trump himself gets caught up in it is yet to be determined. He may have plausible deniability.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Rocinante on Mon 15 May - 13:12

He needs to release his tax returns.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by tGreenWay on Mon 15 May - 13:33

Dems didn't manufacture this. The Russians hacked the DNC and Clinton campaign and fed docs and emails to Wikileaks for a slow, sustained impact on HRC. It's not a coincidence that some of Trump's people were meeting with those same Russians. IDK if DJT knew it or not. But he's working hard to quash any investigation. Fired Yates, Comley, and Preet Bharara. Trump's conduct and comments since 1/20 give the appearance of a guilty man.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Rocinante on Mon 15 May - 13:40

The thing that makes me think Trump DID have something to do with it was that it seems so blatant and stupidly done.  That's him to a T.

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Post by tGreenWay on Mon 15 May - 14:20

I agree, Roc. He seems to conduct himself like he's an untouchable.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Robert J Sakimano on Mon 15 May - 14:23



I wish anyone on this planet loved me the way Goosechev loves the sexual predator.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Mon 15 May - 14:29

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

I wish anyone on this planet loved me the way Goosechev loves the sexual predator.

It is an unconditional love. That's hard to find. Best of luck.
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Post by kingstonlake on Mon 15 May - 18:42

And........released top secret intelligence gathered by an ally to the Russians.

Jesus.
Fuck.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Robert J Sakimano on Tue 16 May - 7:20

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:

I wish anyone on this planet loved me the way Goosechev loves the sexual predator.

It is an unconditional love. That's hard to find. Best of luck.
thanks..

my wife likes me (for whatever reason).. and my kid digs me. But there probably are things that I could do that would make them want to disown me.

Goosechev and the sexual predator have that unique, unconditional groovy kind of love.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Robert J Sakimano on Tue 16 May - 7:20

kingstonlake wrote:And........released top secret intelligence gathered by an ally to the Russians.

Jesus.
Fuck.
be thankful - we could have Crooked Hillary and her email account.
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Post by NigelUno on Tue 16 May - 7:27

kingstonlake wrote:And........released top secret intelligence gathered by an ally to the Russians.

Jesus.
Fuck.

It's almost like he's colluding with them.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Robert J Sakimano on Tue 16 May - 7:39

remember when Republicans loved and defended America?

yeah, me too.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by DWags on Tue 16 May - 7:48

They've always "loved" America. It's just that they would send the colored boys to Vietnam to "defend" it. Then, when they came home in the 60's they couldn't buy houses in places like Louisville Kentucky because, well, they were black. Hell, they even got mad at the heavyweight champ of the world cause he didn't want to fight for a country that wouldn't let him buy a house where he wanted.


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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Tue 16 May - 7:53

DWags wrote:They've always "loved" America. It's just that they would send the colored boys to Vietnam to "defend" it. Then, when they came home in the 60's they couldn't buy houses in places like Louisville Kentucky because, well, they were black. Hell, they even got mad at the heavyweight champ of the world cause he didn't want to fight for a country that wouldn't let him buy a house where he wanted.

you're a great American.

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