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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-01-25, 09:11

his sensitive snowflake feelings are hurt so bad by losing the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes that he's wasting time and resources on this..

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Post by NigelUno on 2017-01-25, 09:41

Give him a chance!

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Post by GRR Spartan on 2017-01-25, 09:42

Aren't our fiscally GOP/"conservative" brethern vowing to block this waste of funds?
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Post by DWags on 2017-01-25, 10:16

Trump, pilot, plane, crash, we all lose.

amirite?

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Post by AnomanderRake on 2017-01-25, 10:38

Wait...so does that mean that he himself believes that he is an illegitimate President?

You don't even need "fake news" to make Trump look like an idiot, he reminds us every single day.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-01-25, 14:42

quick reminder that the sexual predator doesn't believe voter fraud existed...

this is his way to create an alternative fact that it existed.. so his racist AG can then adhere to even more rigid forms of voter suppression republicans have already managed to perpetrate on the more vulnerable segments of American society.

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Post by AnomanderRake on 2017-01-25, 20:39

Robert J Sakimano wrote:quick reminder that the sexual predator doesn't believe voter fraud existed...

this is his way to create an alternative fact that it existed.. so his racist AG can then adhere to even more rigid forms of voter suppression republicans have already managed to perpetrate on the more vulnerable segments of American society.


I think this has more to do with Trump's ego than voter suppression. Republican congressmen are publicly stating that the alleged voter fraud is non-existent.

With that said, they may end up taking advantage of the opportunity to enact further voter suppression laws, and just blame Trump for it after the fact.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-01-27, 10:55

Well this isn't 3 million but it sure as hell isn't zero either.

Trump argument bolstered: Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, study finds

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Post by NigelUno on 2017-01-27, 11:05

LooseGoose wrote:Well this isn't 3 million but it sure as hell isn't zero either.

Trump argument bolstered: Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, study finds

Ummm...is that headline (and study) a fact? Or a guess?
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Post by steveschneider on 2017-01-27, 11:12

Complete waste of tax payer money. His popularity rating is at an all time low and will probably be in the twenties before too long.
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Post by DWags on 2017-01-27, 11:14

I'm bummed I clicked on the headline. Where did they get the 6.4% of illegals vote? Where di dthey get that 81% of those votes would be for hilliary? Will trump now trust a sample poll?

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Post by NigelUno on 2017-01-27, 11:18

LooseGoose wrote:Well this isn't 3 million but it sure as hell isn't zero either.

Trump argument bolstered: Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, study finds

Are you in favor of taxpayer money being allocated to investigate this?

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Post by GRR Spartan on 2017-01-27, 20:37

VP Pence is reportedly in favor of the investigation.

From the link:

"What I can tell you is that I would anticipate that the administration is going to initiate a full evaluation of voting rolls in the country, the overall integrity of our voting system in the wake of this past election,” Pence told Republican lawmakers during a question-and-answer session at their annual policy retreat in Philadelphia this week."

Helluva a thing, the last elected official to indicted and convicted of voter fraud was Indiana Sec of State Charles P. White who ran as a Republican.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/in-private-meeting-pence-vows-full-evaluation-of-voting-rolls-over-claims-of-voting-fraud/2017/01/27/1c1fa1de-e49a-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?utm_term=.af3c0001e88f

This is more political sleight of hand that would make acts Penn and Teller, Sigfried and Roy and David Copperfield proud.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-01-27, 20:59

LooseGoose wrote:Well this isn't 3 million but it sure as hell isn't zero either.

Trump argument bolstered: Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, study finds

Fake news.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-24, 09:23

Irony: Bernie backers claim fraud in CA Dem chair race over lack of … voter ID


The unprecedented effort to examine the documentation of the disputed state party’s election results was announced by outgoing California Democratic Party chair John Burton at the close of a raucous state Democratic convention this weekend.

Ellis, the former director of Emerge America, a women’s political organization, lost the election by a narrow margin of 62 votes out of 3,000 cast. Her loss immediately set off protests from hundreds of her backers, many of whom charged that there were irregularities that included allowing voters to cast proxy ballots without proper ID.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-05-24, 09:57

did too many colored people vote for supporters of the sexual predator's taste?
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Post by NigelUno on 2017-05-24, 10:20

LooseGoose wrote:Irony: Bernie backers claim fraud in CA Dem chair race over lack of … voter ID


The unprecedented effort to examine the documentation of the disputed state party’s election results was announced by outgoing California Democratic Party chair John Burton at the close of a raucous state Democratic convention this weekend.

Ellis, the former director of Emerge America, a women’s political organization, lost the election by a narrow margin of 62 votes out of 3,000 cast. Her loss immediately set off protests from hundreds of her backers, many of whom charged that there were irregularities that included allowing voters to cast proxy ballots without proper ID.

You highlighted a sentence with the term "proxy ballots", which of course aren't allowed in general elections. An irregularity in a proxy ballot is kind of different than Trump voter fraud.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-24, 10:37

Nice deflections away from Dems bitching about no voter ID.

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Post by NigelUno on 2017-05-24, 10:49

LooseGoose wrote:Nice deflections away from Dems bitching about no voter ID.

You do know that an irregularity with a proxy ballot would seem to be a little different than the voter fraud that Trump is talking about, right?

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-06-09, 14:14

Keep looking away and claiming it never happens.

Canvassers for Dem-tied group charged in voter registration fraud scheme

Twelve employees of an Indiana group tied to former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid and former President Bill Clinton were charged Friday for allegedly submitting fake or fraudulent voter registration applications before the 2016 presidential election.

The Indiana Voter Registration Project, an Indiana-based group focused on mobilizing and registering black voters, allegedly submitted an unknown number of falsified applications, according to a probable cause affidavit. Eleven canvassers temporarily employed by the group were charged by Marion County prosecutors, along with their supervisor Holiday Burke -- with one count each of procuring or submitting voter registration applications known to be “false, fictitious, or fraudulent.”

If convicted, each faces up to two-and-a-half years in prison. The group as a whole is also charged, and could face a $10,000 fine.

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Post by DWags on 2017-06-09, 14:17

LooseGoose wrote:Keep looking away and claiming it never happens.

Canvassers for Dem-tied group charged in voter registration fraud scheme

Twelve employees of an Indiana group tied to former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid and former President Bill Clinton were charged Friday for allegedly submitting fake or fraudulent voter registration applications before the 2016 presidential election.

The Indiana Voter Registration Project, an Indiana-based group focused on mobilizing and registering black voters, allegedly submitted an unknown number of falsified applications, according to a probable cause affidavit. Eleven canvassers temporarily employed by the group were charged by Marion County prosecutors, along with their supervisor Holiday Burke -- with one count each of procuring or submitting voter registration applications known to be “false, fictitious, or fraudulent.”

If convicted, each faces up to two-and-a-half years in prison. The group as a whole is also charged, and could face a $10,000 fine.

Happens all the time. 3 million?

President Trump for months has suggested there could have been widespread voter fraud in the last election -- though to date, most public cases have involved voter registration fraud.

In Indiana, state police began investigating the group in August after a clerk in Hendricks County, near Indianapolis, flagged about a dozen registration forms with missing or suspicious information. The investigation expanded to 56 counties.


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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-09, 14:19

LooseGoose wrote:Keep looking away and claiming it never happens.

Canvassers for Dem-tied group charged in voter registration fraud scheme

Twelve employees of an Indiana group tied to former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid and former President Bill Clinton were charged Friday for allegedly submitting fake or fraudulent voter registration applications before the 2016 presidential election.

The Indiana Voter Registration Project, an Indiana-based group focused on mobilizing and registering black voters, allegedly submitted an unknown number of falsified applications, according to a probable cause affidavit. Eleven canvassers temporarily employed by the group were charged by Marion County prosecutors, along with their supervisor Holiday Burke -- with one count each of procuring or submitting voter registration applications known to be “false, fictitious, or fraudulent.”

If convicted, each faces up to two-and-a-half years in prison. The group as a whole is also charged, and could face a $10,000 fine.

Automatic registration. Boom, problem solved. That was easy.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-06-09, 14:25

LooseGoose wrote:Keep looking away and claiming it never happens.

Canvassers for Dem-tied group charged in voter registration fraud scheme

Twelve employees of an Indiana group tied to former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid and former President Bill Clinton were charged Friday for allegedly submitting fake or fraudulent voter registration applications before the 2016 presidential election.

The Indiana Voter Registration Project, an Indiana-based group focused on mobilizing and registering black voters, allegedly submitted an unknown number of falsified applications, according to a probable cause affidavit. Eleven canvassers temporarily employed by the group were charged by Marion County prosecutors, along with their supervisor Holiday Burke -- with one count each of procuring or submitting voter registration applications known to be “false, fictitious, or fraudulent.”

If convicted, each faces up to two-and-a-half years in prison. The group as a whole is also charged, and could face a $10,000 fine.

Hi Goose, are you still avoiding my questions or haven't your answers come back from altrightspin.com yet?
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Post by DWags on 2017-06-09, 14:33

The investigation found that workers had submitted fake applications for imaginary residents, submitted new applications for people who had already been registered, and at least one application was submitted on behalf of a minor, according to Curry.

We do not believe this was a widespread effort to infringe voters, intentionally register ineligible individuals, or to impact the election," Curry said. "Instead we allege that a bad business practice led to illegal actions by the local association and these twelve individuals."

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Post by DWags on 2017-06-09, 14:36

This was not a voter fraud scheme. It was a registration fraud scheme. And it happens when you pay unemployed young kids per the #'s of registrations they get.

Bad practice.

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Post by NigelUno on 2017-06-09, 15:40

Goose? This is from your link:

Marion County prosecutor Terry Curry, a Democrat, said the police investigation found no evidence of voter fraud or voter suppression...

Maybe you should read your links?
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-06-09, 15:48

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Keep looking away and claiming it never happens.

Canvassers for Dem-tied group charged in voter registration fraud scheme


Hi Goose, are you still avoiding my questions or haven't your answers come back from altrightspin.com yet?

I thought I answered all of them. Where do you still desire enlightenment?

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-06-09, 15:51

LooseGoose wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Hi Goose, are you still avoiding my questions or haven't your answers come back from altrightspin.com yet?

I thought I answered all of them. Where do you still desire enlightenment?

Captain Awesome wrote:Also, do you think his dumb ass [Trump] is under investigation now for firing Comey? What do you think the odds are?

You never read anything I write. :(


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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-06-09, 23:03

I guess Goose doesn't want to answer questions again. Typical Goose.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-06-10, 09:31

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

I thought I answered all of them. Where do you still desire enlightenment?

Captain Awesome wrote:Also, do you think his dumb ass [Trump] is under investigation now for firing Comey? What do you think the odds are?

You never read anything I write. :(



I didn't know you were Captain Awesome. Did an old GF give you that nickname?

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Post by GRR Spartan on 2017-06-10, 12:33

There has been fewer proven cases of voter fraud by voters trying to vote multiple times or using false ID in the last 4 decades than 8260, the number of people who lived in Oscoda County according to the 2016 estimates.

President Trump keeps says there were 3M incidents of voter fraud in 2016 elections.

Don't know if even he believes it but it's red meat for his political base and distracts the base from the screwing they will be getting if Trump's tax plan, healthcare proposals and infrastructure programs get passed.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-06-24, 17:44

Did Votes By Noncitizens Cost Trump The 2016 Popular Vote? Sure Looks That Way

Election 2016: Late in 2016, we created a stir by suggesting that Donald Trump was likely right when he claimed that millions of noncitizens had illegally voted in the U.S. election. Now, a study by a New Jersey think tank provides new evidence that that's what happened.

Last November, just weeks after his Electoral College win that gave him the presidency, then President-elect Donald Trump tweeted, "In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally."

The reaction was angry and swift, with the left accusing him of being an "internet troll" and of hatching a "Twitter-born conspiracy theory."

At the time, we noted that a group called True The Vote, an online anti-voter-fraud website, had claimed that illegals had cast three million votes last year. The media and left-wing groups immediately portrayed True The Vote as a fringe group with little credibility.

The only problem is, a study in 2014 in the online Electoral Studies Journal made a quite similar claim: In the 2008 and 2010 elections, they said, as many as 2.8 million illegal noncitizen votes were cast, "enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes and congressional elections," said the study, authored by Jesse T. Richman and Gushan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

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Post by Turtleneck on 2017-06-30, 19:12


LooseGoose wrote:Well this isn't 3 million but it sure as hell isn't zero either.

Trump argument bolstered: Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, study finds

This is the first time I have opened this thread. Great post, Loose. Did you know the author of the study cited in that article had this to say:

Dear Washington Times,

As a primary author cited in this piece, I need to say that I think the Washington Times article (http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/) is deceptive. It makes it sound like I have done a study concerning the 2016 election. I have not. What extrapolation I did to the 2016 election (https://fs.wp.odu.edu/jrichman/2016/11/28/is-it-plausible-that-non-citizen-votes-account-for-the-entire-margin-of-trumps-popular-vote-loss-to-clinton/) was purely and explicitly and exclusively for the purpose of pointing out that my 2014 study of the 2008 election did not provide evidence of voter fraud at the level some Trump administration people were claiming it did. I do not think that one should rely upon that extrapolation for any other purpose. And I do not stand behind that extrapolation if used for ANY other purpose.

Best Regards,

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Post by msugolfguy on 2017-06-30, 19:20

LooseGoose wrote:Nice deflections away from Dems bitching about no voter ID.

You do know the guy that's looking into this for Trump did the same thing in Kansas (fantastic, sarcasm) found 1 case out of 100s that were real. So....have fun with that.
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Post by Turtleneck on 2017-06-30, 20:16

msugolfguy wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Nice deflections away from Dems bitching about no voter ID.

You do know the guy that's looking into this for Trump did the same thing in Kansas (fantastic, sarcasm) found 1 case out of 100s that were real. So....have fun with that.

Yeah, but...

The chair of Donald Trump's Election Integrity Commission has penned a letter to all 50 states requesting their full voter role data, including the name, address, date of birth, party affiliation, last four Social Security number digits and voting history back to 2006 of potentially every voter in the state.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-voter-fraud-commission-20170629-story.html

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Post by msugolfguy on 2017-06-30, 20:18

Turtleneck wrote:
msugolfguy wrote:

You do know the guy that's looking into this for Trump did the same thing in Kansas (fantastic, sarcasm) found 1 case out of 100s that were real. So....have fun with that.

Yeah, but...

The chair of Donald Trump's Election Integrity Commission has penned a letter to all 50 states requesting their full voter role data, including the name, address, date of birth, party affiliation, last four Social Security number digits and voting history back to 2006 of potentially every voter in the state.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-voter-fraud-commission-20170629-story.html

O I know. Saw that today, I laughed.
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Post by DWags on 2017-06-30, 20:20

Turtleneck wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Well this isn't 3 million but it sure as hell isn't zero either.

Trump argument bolstered: Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, study finds

This is the first time I have opened this thread. Great post, Loose. Did you know the author of the study cited in that article had this to say:

Dear Washington Times,

As a primary author cited in this piece, I need to say that I think the Washington Times article (http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/) is deceptive. It makes it sound like I have done a study concerning the 2016 election. I have not. What extrapolation I did to the 2016 election (https://fs.wp.odu.edu/jrichman/2016/11/28/is-it-plausible-that-non-citizen-votes-account-for-the-entire-margin-of-trumps-popular-vote-loss-to-clinton/) was purely and explicitly and exclusively for the purpose of pointing out that my 2014 study of the 2008 election did not provide evidence of voter fraud at the level some Trump administration people were claiming it did. I do not think that one should rely upon that extrapolation for any other purpose. And I do not stand behind that extrapolation if used for ANY other purpose.

Best Regards,

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Post by Turtleneck on 2017-06-30, 20:21

...and then this...

https://www.wired.com/2017/01/author-trumps-favorite-voter-fraud-study-says-everyones-wrong/

That was Richman’s research, all right. The problem, says Richman, who identifies as a political moderate, is that the Trump administration’s interpretation of his report is totally off. “Trump and others have been misreading our research and exaggerating our results to make claims we don’t think our research supports,” Richman says. “I’m not sure why they continue to do it, but there’s not much I can do about that aside from set the record straight.”

Over the last three years, Richman has grown weary of what he describes as the partisan distortions of his research. “We’re perpetually fighting a two-front war,” he says. “One against people, mostly coming from the left, who want to claim on generally quite flimsy grounds that the study is completely invalid, and on the other hand people on the right who want to pretend this study is much more than it is or says much more than it does.”

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Re: The Sexual Predator Is Now Launching an Investigation into Voter Fraud..

Post by LooseGoose on 2017-06-30, 21:19

And the States don't want to give up the data so we're asked to trust them on this. And the left will in this case since they agree.

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Re: The Sexual Predator Is Now Launching an Investigation into Voter Fraud..

Post by GRR Spartan on 2017-06-30, 21:40

Small government GOP just wants all the state's voter data including full Social Security numbers, driver's license numbers, voter addresses etc.

Red and Blue states are balking at the request.
Funny how the GOP embraces the ideal of limiting government until they don't.   They sound like Democrats they vilify every election cycle.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/29/trumps-voter-fraud-commission-wants-to-know-the-voting-history-party-id-and-address-of-every-voter-in-america/


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