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Post by Rocinante Thu 16 Feb 2017 - 12:14

X, perpetuating stereotypes is bad. If i were to say that I know a bunch of asians and they are really good at math, or I know a bunch of black people and they're really good at sports, it's still stereotyping. It still smacks of bigoted bullshit. It doesn't matter if you "blame them" the truth is you're generalizing about a whole group of people. Seriously is this something we need to discuss in the 21st century?
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Post by xsanguine Thu 16 Feb 2017 - 12:24

Rocinante wrote:X, perpetuating stereotypes is bad. If i were to say that  I know a bunch of asians and they are really good at math, or I know a bunch of black people and they're really good at sports, it's still stereotyping. It still smacks of bigoted bullshit. It doesn't matter if you "blame them" the truth is you're generalizing about a whole group of people. Seriously is this something we need to discuss in the 21st century?

Is it bigoted to observe generalities within certain social groups and then explore why those generalities exist? That's all that's occurred in my posts.

Why is it bigoted to acknowledge the fact that Jews tend to have a higher per capita? After acknowledging that, why is it wrong to acknowledge personal observations about why they have a higher per capita?
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Post by Rocinante Thu 16 Feb 2017 - 12:31

xsanguine wrote:
Rocinante wrote:X, perpetuating stereotypes is bad. If i were to say that  I know a bunch of asians and they are really good at math, or I know a bunch of black people and they're really good at sports, it's still stereotyping. It still smacks of bigoted bullshit. It doesn't matter if you "blame them" the truth is you're generalizing about a whole group of people. Seriously is this something we need to discuss in the 21st century?

Is it bigoted to observe generalities within certain social groups and then explore why those generalities exist? That's all that's occurred in my posts.

Why is it bigoted to acknowledge the fact that Jews tend to have a higher per capita? After acknowledging that, why is it wrong to acknowledge personal observations about why they have a higher per capita?

Because it's not true. Episcopalians tend to make a lot of money too. Are they into some gangster shit? You know, when you really look at the numbers, it's the amount of education that people have that leads to these higher incomes, not their religion or ethnicity. That's why generalizing based on those things is back assward.
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Post by xsanguine Thu 16 Feb 2017 - 12:43

Rocinante wrote:
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Is it bigoted to observe generalities within certain social groups and then explore why those generalities exist? That's all that's occurred in my posts.

Why is it bigoted to acknowledge the fact that Jews tend to have a higher per capita? After acknowledging that, why is it wrong to acknowledge personal observations about why they have a higher per capita?

Because it's not true. Episcopalians tend to make a lot of money too. Are they into some gangster shit?  You know, when you really look at the numbers, it's the amount of education that people have that leads to these higher incomes,  not their religion or ethnicity. That's why generalizing based on those things is back assward.

So then we can have a discussion about that. There's a correlation that groups with higher average IQs tend to make more money, too. There are a lot of variables. It's not just about the monolithic term "education". It's about how you're educated. Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn send their children to schools that revolve around religion and business (or making money). I'm not a fan of the religion side of things but their kids are observably smarter than most American kids their age when it comes to these sorts of things. On the flip side, they lack education in other areas.

It's not wrong or "bigotted" to make these observations and then extrapolate what is observed. It's not hateful and it's not intolerant, so I'm not sure how bigotry comes into play in this context.
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Post by xsanguine Thu 16 Feb 2017 - 12:50

Rocinante wrote:

Because it's not true.

Jews highest-earning religious group in US

Episcopalians do make a lot of money, but not as much as Jews (or even Hindus).

Household Incomes Of US Religious Groups
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Post by MiamiSpartan Thu 16 Feb 2017 - 13:07

Antineoplastons wrote:
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Again, there are many terrible things that don't get reported on by the mainstream media.


Jesus Christ, you are a fucking lunatic.  How do you get that out of anything that I'm saying.  Still fucking LYING about what others are saying in order to make some point?  You take straw man arguments to a whole other level.


LOL at the CNN link.  Egypt could not be a better example of my point.  We gave aid to a dictator that oppressed his people for years and years.  We cut it temporarily during the time of that article because the new regime (at the time) was cracking down on the Muslim Brotherhood....so to protect a VERY anti-Israel group.  

Look at how much we're giving to Middle Eastern countries:  http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/d/a/Middle-East-and-North-Africa

Not to mention that we have given billions to countries that oppress their people in other regions over the past several decades.  It's absolutely absurd to say that we don't give aid to countries that "don't treat their citizens appropriately."  Oh sure, we might withdraw it from time to time as a sanction when they act especially bad (or, more accurately, when it gets publicity).  It's not right or wrong, it's the reality of international relations.

"Republican is not a race/ethnicity (not entirely, anyway), but regardless, it depends on what they do, not what some column that they checked on a voter registration form says."


confused What "white people" did I desperately defend, and at which minorities' expense?  You posted that in response to comments about Republicans, so if that's who you're saying that I'm desperately defending, you are, yet again, greatly misconstruing what I said.  If saying that I'll judge them on what they do, not on what their voter card says, qualifies as "desperately defending" them, then I will also just as desperately defend Democrats, Green Party, Socialists, Libertarians, and any other political party.  I will also just as desperately defend (i.e., judge on what they do, not what their background is) Christians, Jews, Muslims, Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics, Buckeyes, Hoosiers, and Hawkeyes.  I draw the line at defending Wolverines, though.  

I don't know what you're claiming I've lied about.  I quote your exact words man.  
No, you quote what I say, and then imply that I said something else. For example, "Oooh man you got me. Stalin is totally so much better than Hiler since he only killed 9 times as many and not 10 lol." I never said nor implied anything of the sort. And that was after I showed you that it was 5x as many, not 10.

Then there was this whole line of yours:

"So Khazars are just simply smarter and harder working than everyone else, eh? So if they're so much smarter and hard-working than every other race/nation then we should try to emulate them by forcing black females to take birth control injections in order to slow down/lower their population growths? And yet you call ME the racist lol...."
Where the fuck did I say anything about forcing people to take birth control injections? Where did I even say that anyone should emulate anyone else. Most of all, what the fuck does Bob Iger or Gary Bettman have to do with Israel injecting black females with birth control? Yet you imply that that was what I was saying. You're a lunatic.

Antineoplastons wrote:And yes, when I said 10X as many killed I'm referring to the OFFICIAL number after they've been revised downwards.  It's a fact there was a plaque in front of Auschwitz that said "4 Million killed here"...they then later had to revise it down to 1.5 Million and then a THIRD time to make it less than 1 Million.  The official number from the beginning has always been 6 Million, so they knocked off 3 Million ALONE at Auschwitz....yet they still use the 6 Million number as evidenced by your regurgitation of it.


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Nope, wrong again. The official number is in the 11 million ballpark, with 6 million of those being Jews. Even if you don't believe it happened, you still can't argue with what the official number is. It's hilarious watching you squirm and change your argument. First, you said that Stalin killed 10x more than Hitler is claimed to have killed. When that was shown to be wrong, you changed that to say that you were right that Stalin killed 10x more than you believe Hitler actually killed. When I called you out for changing the argument, now you're saying that the official number that Hitler killed has been revised downward...except the numbers I've been talking about are the most current (see below paragraph). What will you come up with next to try to spin your exaggerated claim of 10x?

Since you always say that others should research something, why don't you do a little research on your own? The 4 million number at Auschwitz is not, nor was it ever, included in the 6 million total Jews killed. The 4 million plaque was put there by the Soviets, which was inflated because the Soviets did a lot of exaggeration. This is why it was eventually changed. Tell you what, Mr. Research Guy, why don't you RESEARCH how the 6 million number is broken out by location, rather than suggest that people are claiming something that they're not claiming. Here, I'll help you....
http://www.nationalww2museum.org/learn/education/for-students/ww2-history/ww2-by-the-numbers/holocaust.html

Antineoplastons wrote:And yes, you most certainly are making that claim that the 2% of the population that is represented in about 75% of leadership positions in ALL aspects of society/industry are all harder working than everyone else if you are making the claim that these positions filled being ridiculously oversampled are all going to the best person for the job.  That's just a fact.  It would be that way for ANY group that is as oversampled in its representation as the Jews are in the US Hollywood, Media, Sports, Banking, etc industries.  These are the people you're defending by claiming I'm being anti-semitic.  
I'm still waiting for you to explain why we should be concerned about Jews being over-sampled in those positions. Because Israel has had some racist policies? You've failed to make a connection between them, other than they're of the same ethnic/religious background.

Antineoplastons wrote:"LOL at the CNN link. Egypt could not be a better example of my point. We gave aid to a dictator that oppressed his people for years and years. We cut it temporarily during the time of that article because the new regime (at the time) was cracking down on the Muslim Brotherhood....so to protect a VERY anti-Israel group."

Not quite, since this article clearly shows the Muslim Brotherhood threatening the US over the cutting off of aid, so they're hardly "protecting" the MB, an anti-Israel group.  

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/02/2012216192619753593.html
You need to pay better attention with your links. Your previous link about cutting off aid to Egypt was from 2013. Now you're linking an article from 2012 to show a reaction to the cutting of aid in 2013? Stephen Miller - Another One of Cheeto Hitler's Liars..  - Page 2 502811600

Antineoplastons wrote:And look at the timeline of when the US first started giving aid to Egypt, ruled by a dictator as you claim...

"but U.S. foreign assistance to Egypt has averaged about $2 billion a year since 1979, when Egypt struck a peace treaty with Israel.

Well isn't that convenient.  Just more evidence of the extending reach of Israel/Jews and their unmatched influence over the US.  If you can't see that Israel is the reason the US is giving aid to Egypt then I don't know what else to say....

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2013/07/10/everything_you_need_to_know_about_us_aid_to_egypt_105308.html
Perhaps you should look at the timeline of Egypt's relations on the world stage and in the context of what was going on in the world. In the 50s and 60s, Egypt under Nasser, were closely allied with the Soviet Union. Nasser was even awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union and the Order of Lenin distinctions. When Nasser died in the early 70s, they began to shift their policies away from the USSR. Yes, we gave them aid as incentive for peace with Israel, but the lack of aid prior to the 1970s was due to their other allegiances. I'm not going to say that we don't support Israel. We're an ally of theirs. Meanwhile, many of their biggest enemies were allies of the Soviet Union. And yes, American Jews tend to not want Israel wiped off the map. I don't want to see Northern Ireland wiped off the map either. Doesn't mean I'm a member of the IRA.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Thu 16 Feb 2017 - 13:14

Antineoplastons wrote:I was traumatized for years after having visited Auschwitz.  
Were you afraid to go near a synagogue after that, like you were afraid to go to the movies after the shootings in Aurora? Or how you were afraid to go into tall buildings after 9/11? I'm sure that it must be very restrictive to have so much fear in your life, so it makes sense why someone like that would talk themselves into believing that it's all fake.
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Post by CheesySpartan Thu 16 Feb 2017 - 15:05

Antineoplastons wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:
Were you afraid to go near a synagogue after that, like you were afraid to go to the movies after the shootings in Aurora? Or how you were afraid to go into tall buildings after 9/11? I'm sure that it must be very restrictive to have so much fear in your life, so it makes sense why someone like that would talk themselves into believing that it's all fake.

Actually I did have a bit of a phobia in both going to movie theaters ( I would sit in the back, kind of tucked away from the entrance since I calculated a shooter would probably wouldn't start shooting until he got past the first couple rows..) and tall buildings ( on one occassion at least ) back when I believed terrorism/mass shootings were real. Thankfully now that I know the truth, my life has improved greatly in that regard.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Thu 16 Feb 2017 - 17:59

Antineoplastons wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:
No, you quote what I say, and then imply that I said something else.  For example, "Oooh man you got me.  Stalin is totally so much better than Hiler since he only killed 9 times as many and not 10 lol."  I never said nor implied anything of the sort.  And that was after I showed you that it was 5x as many, not 10.  

Then there was this whole line of yours:  

"So Khazars are just simply smarter and harder working than everyone else, eh?  So if they're so much smarter and hard-working than every other race/nation then we should try to emulate them by forcing black females to take birth control injections in order to slow down/lower their population growths?  And yet you call ME the racist lol...."
Where the fuck did I say anything about forcing people to take birth control injections?  Where did I even say that anyone should emulate anyone else.  Most of all, what the fuck does Bob Iger or Gary Bettman have to do with Israel injecting black females with birth control?  Yet you imply that that was what I was saying.  You're a lunatic.


Nope, wrong again.  The official number is in the 11 million ballpark, with 6 million of those being Jews.  Even if you don't believe it happened, you still can't argue with what the official number is.  It's hilarious watching you squirm and change your argument.  First, you said that Stalin killed 10x more than Hitler is claimed to have killed.  When that was shown to be wrong, you changed that to say that you were right that Stalin killed 10x more than you believe Hitler actually killed.  When I called you out for changing the argument, now you're saying that the official number that Hitler killed has been revised downward...except the numbers I've been talking about are the most current (see below paragraph).  What will you come up with next to try to spin your exaggerated claim of 10x?  

Since you always say that others should research something, why don't you do a little research on your own?  The 4 million number at Auschwitz is not, nor was it ever, included in the 6 million total Jews killed.  The 4 million plaque was put there by the Soviets, which was inflated because the Soviets did a lot of exaggeration.  This is why it was eventually changed.  Tell you what, Mr. Research Guy, why don't you RESEARCH how the 6 million number is broken out by location, rather than suggest that people are claiming something that they're not claiming.  Here, I'll help you....
http://www.nationalww2museum.org/learn/education/for-students/ww2-history/ww2-by-the-numbers/holocaust.html


I'm still waiting for you to explain why we should be concerned about Jews being over-sampled in those positions.  Because Israel has had some racist policies?  You've failed to make a connection between them, other than they're of the same ethnic/religious background.  


You need to pay better attention with your links.  Your previous link about cutting off aid to Egypt was from 2013.  Now you're linking an article from 2012 to show a reaction to the cutting of aid in 2013?   Stephen Miller - Another One of Cheeto Hitler's Liars..  - Page 2 502811600


Perhaps you should look at the timeline of Egypt's relations on the world stage and in the context of what was going on in the world.  In the 50s and 60s, Egypt under Nasser, were closely allied with the Soviet Union.  Nasser was even awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union and the Order of Lenin distinctions.  When Nasser died in the early 70s, they began to shift their policies away from the USSR.  Yes, we gave them aid as incentive for peace with Israel, but the lack of aid prior to the 1970s was due to their other allegiances.  I'm not going to say that we don't support Israel.  We're an ally of theirs.  Meanwhile, many of their biggest enemies were allies of the Soviet Union.  And yes, American Jews tend to not want Israel wiped off the map.  I don't want to see Northern Ireland wiped off the map either.  Doesn't mean I'm a member of the IRA.

"For example, "Oooh man you got me. Stalin is totally so much better than Hiler since he only killed 9 times as many and not 10 lol." I never said nor implied anything of the sort."

It's called sarcasm.  Levied to show how ridiculous your argument had become.  I didn't put quote marks or claim that is what you said/wrote.
You implied it.

Antineoplastons wrote:As I said, even if Stalin only killed ONE more person than Hitler there should be just as many Trump=Stalin comparisons as there are Trump=Hitler.  It's pretty sad that you can't comprehend how ludicrous the Trump-Hitler comparison is when Trump is without a doubt 100% owned by the Jews.  But I'm sure you think that Stephen Miller is without a doubt the best man for the job as one of Trump's senior advisers....that Kushner is also without a doubt the best man for being Trumps #1 adviser.....I mean they're barely into their 30's, all that experience they have garnered shows no body could do better ( more sarcasm...)
I don't think Trump's the best man for the job, and probably not many of the people that he's appointed. That includes non-Jews. Their being Jewish is not why they got the jobs. Nepotism and cronyism yes. Judaism, no.

Antineoplastons wrote:Trump Hitler = 30 Million google hits
Trump Stalin = 770,000 google hits.

There you go, I objectively proved my point.  
Again, never disagreed that Stalin was horrible, or even that he is worse than Hitler in numbers killed. Just took exception with your exaggeration which you know was off base by 60 million people. Other criteria about who's worse we can debate, as I would put the entirety of WWII deaths on all sides, combat and civilian, in the European/North African/Atlantic theater, squarely at the feet of Hitler.

Antineoplastons wrote:""So Khazars are just simply smarter and harder working than everyone else, eh? So if they're so much smarter and hard-working than every other race/nation then we should try to emulate them by forcing black females to take birth control injections in order to slow down/lower their population growths? And yet you call ME the racist lol...."
Where the fuck did I say anything about forcing people to take birth control injections? Where did I even say that anyone should emulate anyone else. Most of all, what the fuck does Bob Iger or Gary Bettman have to do with Israel injecting black females with birth control? Yet you imply that that was what I was saying. You're a lunatic."

You undoubtedly implied that the Jews, for the most part, are basically the "best man for the job" and that their over-representation in EVERYTHING in the US has nothing to do with them being Jews.  Absolute bullshit.  Not even gonna address it anymore, that's how ridiculous your opinion is.  
Legitimately getting a job does not necessarily mean that you're the best person for the job. And not being the best person for a job doesn't mean you're not at all qualified. And sometimes companies hire someone who is not qualified. I don't pretend to know the full range of applicants for every major entertainment company CEO positions, nor am I qualified to judge them. But no, simply being Jewish is not why they got those jobs. And even if it is, that doesn't mean that they aren't qualified, or that it is some horrible thing for the country. Tell me what awful things the Jewish CEOs in the Entertainment business have done to this country, if that's what you believe.

Antineoplastons wrote:"Nope, wrong again. The official number is in the 11 million ballpark, with 6 million of those being Jews." LOL..

"except the numbers I've been talking about are the most current (see below paragraph). What will you come up with next to try to spin your exaggerated claim of 10x?

Since you always say that others should research something, why don't you do a little research on your own? The 4 million number at Auschwitz is not, nor was it ever, included in the 6 million total Jews killed. The 4 million plaque was put there by the Soviets, which was inflated because the Soviets did a lot of exaggeration. This is why it was eventually changed"  

They changed it in 1989....So the Russians merely "exaggerated" by adding 3 Million more deaths....and YOU actually believe this LOL.  The Jews would never exaggerate, it's just those damn Russians fault eh lol ( FYI the Bolsheviks were Jews and Stalin was a crypto-Jew, we know for a fact he married 3 Jews and he changed his name from Joseph David Djugashvili...Georgians/Russians don't change their names, Jews do.  He passed a law against anti-semitism....communism is/was a Jewish conspiracy.  If the "Russians" exaggerated the number of deaths they certainly didn't do it of their own accord.
You just don't get it, do you? You think that because something is on a plaque in Soviet-controlled Eastern Europe, that it is the official thing. Ok, please show me a link of a Western source from pre-1989, that lists two things: 1) That 4 million Jews were killed at Auschwitz, and 2) That 6 million Jews were killed in total in the Holocaust. It needs to have BOTH of those things, because that's your argument. I don't believe that Western historians were ever claiming that 2/3 of the Jews were killed at Auschwitz.


Antineoplastons wrote: If you believe that then you'll believe anything.  Well, not everything since you don't believe the Red Cross that put the number at 150,000..weird that you wouldn't believe an independent body like the Red Cross scratch
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Antineoplastons wrote: "I'm still waiting for you to explain why we should be concerned about Jews being over-sampled in those positions"

Oh I already owned you on that one.  Should South African blacks have been concerned when whites were over-represented in gov't?  If whites made up 2% of the US population and 70% were Jews, should Jews be concerned if those 2% represented 75-85% of every facet of society, industry, etc?  
No, Jews shouldn't be concerned about that unless/until there was actually negative action taken against them.

See, this is why you're a racist, anti-semitic (or anti-Khasar, if you prefer), bigotted piece of shit. You are applying negative behavioral characteristics to an entire group based solely on their ethnicity. Did the whites brutally oppress the blacks in South Africa because they're white (it's in their DNA to do so)? Do Jewish CEOs in the US fully support sterilizing Ethiopians simply because they share some DNA components as a few people half way round the world that did that?

You still have NOT explained why we should worry about what ethnic/religious background a CEO is, rather than what they actually say/do.

Antineoplastons wrote: Oh good God you really believe Iran wants Israel "wiped off the map" too??...no offense, but you're kind of gullible...
Where did I even mention Iran? You are perfect, PERFECT, for being one of these lunatics. You make your "arguments" and claim your "proof" based on comments/quotes/information that you misunderstand, misinterpret, or flat out make up.
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Post by CheesySpartan Fri 17 Feb 2017 - 8:54

Antineoplastons wrote:More on the Red Cross...here's their audit from 1984 that shows the deaths from ALL of the camps for everyone, not just Jews, to be under 300,000

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Why wouldn't the Red Cross have typed that up in english?
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Post by kingstonlake Fri 17 Feb 2017 - 11:15

Who gives a damn if Trump's family dates Jews. Who the fuck gives a shit.
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Post by xsanguine Fri 17 Feb 2017 - 11:58

kingstonlake wrote:Who gives a damn if Trump's family dates Jews. Who the fuck gives a shit.

It shows all he loves is money. (OH SHIT... time to get banned!)
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Post by MiamiSpartan Fri 17 Feb 2017 - 13:33

Antineoplastons wrote:"You implied it."

No, rather you inferred it.  Makes no sense to me why somebody would argue whether or not somebody killed 7 times as many or 10 times as many....
I said 5x as many, but way to keep misrepresenting the discussion.  It's an important distinction between 5x and 10x, because it shows several things.  It shows that you believe fake numbers that your read somewhere without looking into and/or it shows that you willingly falsify and exaggerate claims to make a point sound more staggering.  It also represents a difference of 60 million deaths. I think that's important to get right.

Antineoplastons wrote:"Just took exception with your exaggeration which you know was off base by 60 million people."  

60 million yeah ok.....pass that shit my way dude
Do the math.  Hitler is claimed to have killed 11 million people.  Remember, whether you believe it or not, you based your 10x number on how many people Hitler is claimed to have killed.  That would mean that, by your claim, Stalin killed 110 million people (11 million x 10 = 110 million).  You yourself cited numbers (which I don't disagree with) that Stalin killed 50 million people.  110 million - 50 million = 60 million.  Therefore, as I stated, your exaggerated claim was off by 60 million.  You can't argue this.  Your own numbers and parameters back up this discrepancy.

Antineoplastons wrote:"Ok, please show me a link of a Western source from pre-1989, that lists two things: 1) That 4 million Jews were killed at Auschwitz, and 2) That 6 million Jews were killed in total in the Holocaust. It needs to have BOTH of those things, because that's your argument. I don't believe that Western historians were ever claiming that 2/3 of the Jews were killed at Auschwitz."

1981, New York Times...

"According to most historians of World War II, as many as three million Jews died at Auschwitz and, in all, six million people were murdered in a systematic campaign of genocide against Jews."

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/03/11/us/auschwitz-survivor-sues-for-prize-for-proving-germans-gassed-jews.html

Now this is where you say "I said 4 Million, not 3 million" all the while completely ignoring the fact that you previously made the claim that Russia exaggerated it to be 4 million when it was only 1 million"...ok, so if they exaggerated it to be 4 million and it was caught right away and it was changed to 1 million, why is the NYT reporting it at 3 Million in 1981?
Good find.  Unlike you, I can admit when facts against my point are presented.  However, it should be pointed out, that a former commandant of Auschwitz testified under oath after the war that they killed 2.5 million there.  The 4 million figure on the Soviet plaque was not specifically referencing Jews, but referencing all who died there.  The figure of 6 million has been given by former Nazi officials, as well.  But the fact is that the exact number will never be known.  Nazis testified to destroying as much documentation as they could as the Allies advanced.  If you want to take the lack of a definitive number as "proof" that it didn't happen at all, so be it.  While I may challenge some of your sources and your rationale, I'm not going to get into a debate about whether it happened.


Antineoplastons wrote:"You mean the reports that the Red Cross has officially and repeatedly said is severely misrepresented and falsely attributed to them?" - MS

''There is no question about it,'' he said. ''People, good people, decided to look the other way, including people in the Red Cross and in Britain and the United States."

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/19/us/red-cross-admits-knowing-of-the-holocaust-during-the-war.html

and yet in the SAME article goes on to say..."Just a day earlier, six Red Cross workers were shot and killed in their sleep in the Russian republic of Chechnya. The Red Cross's presence there was possible because its neutrality, which it would not break even in the face of the horrors of World War II"  LOL, huh????   So we are to believe the Red Cross had no problem losing their lives to remain neutral in Russia but cowered like bitches in Nazi Germany?  FAIL.  Yes, I believed this independent body when they made their report in the 40s, not the one that all of a sudden decided to revise it FIFTY YEARS after the fact because their reports were exposed and they caved in to Zionist pressure...
Wow, lots of inaccuracies here.  I know you don't like it when I nitpick what you consider to be "trivial" things, but it's best to be accurate.  When I'm inaccurate (such as when I said 7 million total killed by Hitler, instead of 11 million) I'm happy to be corrected.  Anyway, to be accurate, the late 1970s when the Red Cross debunked these claims, was a little more then 30 years later, not fifty.  I know you're not good at math, and it doesn't change your point, but when you say 50 years it makes me wonder if you know what I'm referring to.  Another point of accuracy is that the Red Cross never "revised" the figure.  They say very clearly in a 1979 document that they have never tried to compile statistics on the victims of the war.

The Red Cross numbers from back in the 40s was based on the actual documents of deaths that had survived.  It was well known from many Nazi testimonies that they destroyed the vast majority of records as the allies advanced.  

But thank you for clarifying that you'll only choose to give credibility to a source when you think that source is supporting you (even when, in reality, it is not).

Antineoplastons wrote:"You are applying negative behavioral characteristics to an entire group based solely on their ethnicity."

What negative behavioral characteristics did I apply?  Oops, I didn't.  You're calling a white person racist because they acknowledged that white people have inordinate amounts of power, control and money.  If I were a liberal making these claims about whites like Trump or Bush you'd be sucking my fat cock right about now
Well, for one thing, there was this that you said:

"So if they're so much smarter and hard-working than every other race/nation then we should try to emulate them by forcing black females to take birth control injections in order to slow down/lower their population growths?"
This was you talking about American Jews, and you're saying that emulating them would mean sterilizing black females, because that's what a few people of the same ethnic/religious origin did.  I'd say that the racism/xenophobia that it takes to sterilize people of a certain skin color is a negative characteristic, and you applied that to all Jews.  This whole thread you've tried to tie American Jews to that sterilization.


Antineoplastons wrote:"Where did I even mention Iran? You are perfect, PERFECT, for being one of these lunatics. You make your "arguments" and claim your "proof" based on comments/quotes/information that you misunderstand, misinterpret, or flat out make up."

You didn't have to mention Iran, they're the ONLY ones being accused of making the false claim that they want Israel "wiped off the map".  Feel free to show me another country that was purported to have made the exact same claim then....
LOL, I swear on all of Freemasonry, I wasn't even thinking about Iran, or any word for word threat when I said that.  I only said that American Jews lobby for the US to support Israel because they don't want Israel to be wiped off the map...meaning that they don't want Israel attacked and defeated.  You probably won't believe me, and I don't really care if you do, but yes, this is another example of how you read something and make up shit in your head about what someone really meant.  If you continue to think that every statement has some hidden code, it's no wonder that you'11 always F33L that there is a conspiracy around you.
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I'm just glad Hilary and Obama were beacons of truth.
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Antineoplastons wrote:We should really strive to be more like Israel and pay immigrants 3,500 to relocate in another country....since we pay 10s of thousands of dollars per refugee/immigrant we could save some tax money to help feed starving American children....what do you say Miami?? Afterall, the Jews are in their position of power and wealth because they are so much smarter/better than everyone else!!

http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Eritrean-migrants-resettled-from-Israel-to-Sweden-337414

Awesome. No cucks running the show in Israel.
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