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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-02-26, 10:34

A referendum on Trump in Newt's old district

Thankfully, a ruby-red Republican House district once held by Newt Gingrich — one that Republicans have consistently won ever since by 60 percentage points, but that surprisingly went for Trump only narrowly over Hillary Clinton — is about to let us know. Between April and June, the Georgia congressional district will be the first real test of whether these congressional town-hall meetings, capturing so many national headlines and so much airtime during Congress's winter recess, are real and meaningful where it counts, at the ballot box.


I don't even know who is running but I'll say the R by 10+ points.

But this will be one to watch.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-02-26, 12:27

Dems were on the morning shows today touting their special election win in Delaware as the tide beginning to turn......well...maybe....maybe not.

Dan McLaughlinVerified account‏@baseballcrank 2h2 hours ago
Dem comeback/wave may well be on the way in 2018, but the Delaware special is not proof or a sign of that.

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Dems used Biden heavily, outspent GOP 10:1 to get 17.3% win in Delaware district Obama won by 19, Hillary by 13. Normal result.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-02-27, 07:50

love how Trump supporters are using rednecks in Georgia as their litmus test for support of racism, bigotry and xenophobia..  

 

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-02-27, 08:52

Robert J Sakimano wrote:love how Trump supporters are using rednecks in Georgia as their litmus test for support of racism, bigotry and xenophobia..    

^^ Bob's investigation finds this description fits a suburban Atlanta district that's 27% Black/Hispanic.

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Post by CheesySpartan on 2017-02-27, 08:54

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:love how Trump supporters are using rednecks in Georgia as their litmus test for support of racism, bigotry and xenophobia..    

^^ Bob's investigation finds this description fits a suburban Atlanta district that's 27% Black/Hispanic.

Don't let facts get in the way of a Bob ramble

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Re: The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia

Post by NigelUno on 2017-02-27, 09:11

I live in this district.

It is highly unlikely that this race will be decided on April 18th (you can even learn that by reading the link provided in the first post).

Not sure you can draw any correlation between Trump's numbers and with who might win this election. Many Republicans couldn't stomach voting for Trump, or he would have had much higher numbers in this district.

It would be very unlikely that a Democrat would win this election, especially in an election of this sort.

I don't think there have been any town hall type meetings around here. As such, any idea that this race will be the first test (related to town hall meetings) seems a stretch.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-02-27, 09:13

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:love how Trump supporters are using rednecks in Georgia as their litmus test for support of racism, bigotry and xenophobia..    

^^  Bob's investigation finds this description fits a suburban Atlanta district that's 27% Black/Hispanic.
my wife is from Georgia.. I have family in Georgia.. I got married in Georgia.

I know what Georgia is like.

so.. whenever this Republican is elected by a bunch of Georgia rednecks, I hope you enjoy the socio-political statement that is undoubtedly being made with what is a ground-breaking referendum on the Trump doctrine.  
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Post by NigelUno on 2017-02-27, 09:45

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

^^  Bob's investigation finds this description fits a suburban Atlanta district that's 27% Black/Hispanic.
my wife is from Georgia.. I have family in Georgia.. I got married in Georgia.

I know what Georgia is like.

so.. whenever this Republican is elected by a bunch of Georgia rednecks, I hope you enjoy the socio-political statement that is undoubtedly being made with what is a ground-breaking referendum on the Trump doctrine.   

I believe there are 18 candidates.  The top 2 will face off in June (assuming no one gets 50% in the April vote).  The only way the district goes Democrat is if all the Republicans running split the vote and 2 Democrats end up with the most votes.

This isn't a district to focus on.  It's a Republican district (even if a Democrat somehow wins).  It won't be a referendum for Trump if a Republican wins, and it won't be referendum for Democrats if a Democrat wins.
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Post by NigelUno on 2017-02-27, 09:50

Republican Price won with nearly 62% last November. The idea that this district is some sort of battleground is laughable.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-02-27, 09:51

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
my wife is from Georgia.. I have family in Georgia.. I got married in Georgia.

I know what Georgia is like.

so.. whenever this Republican is elected by a bunch of Georgia rednecks, I hope you enjoy the socio-political statement that is undoubtedly being made with what is a ground-breaking referendum on the Trump doctrine.   

I believe there are 18 candidates.  The top 2 will face off in June (assuming no one gets 50% in the April vote).  The only way the district goes Democrat is if all the Republicans running split the vote and 2 Democrats end up with the most votes.

This isn't a district to focus on.  It's a Republican district (even if a Democrat somehow wins).  It won't be a referendum for Trump if a Republican wins, and it won't be referendum for Democrats if a Democrat wins.
yeah, I know all of that - but Trump supporters are looking for every shred of evidence they can find to support their racist, bigoted, xenophobic, America-hating existence.

"WOW!! A Republican won in Georgia... GEORGIA"..!!! affraid

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Post by GRR Spartan on 2017-02-27, 10:34

Georgia's 6th didtrict has had 3 GOP candidates elected since 1980 when Gingrich defeated a 7 term incumbent who had defeated Gingrich in a previous race for the same seat.

Gingrich was replaced by Isakson. Price ran and won the seat when Isakson ran for and won a US Senate seat. Pevious to that the seat was held by Democrats since before The Civil War. Those Democrats were often refered to as Bourbon Demcrats whose support came from bankers.

There aren't a lot of Congressional districts up for grabs in Georgia. Redistricting has taken care of that.

https://www.census.gov/mycd/





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Post by CheesySpartan on 2017-02-27, 13:01

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

^^  Bob's investigation finds this description fits a suburban Atlanta district that's 27% Black/Hispanic.
my wife is from Georgia.. I have family in Georgia.. I got married in Georgia.

I know what Georgia is like.

so.. whenever this Republican is elected by a bunch of Georgia rednecks, I hope you enjoy the socio-political statement that is undoubtedly being made with what is a ground-breaking referendum on the Trump doctrine.  

Do you call your in-laws "rednecks" and "knuckle-draggers" to their face or just behind their backs???

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-02-27, 13:02

CheesySpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
my wife is from Georgia.. I have family in Georgia.. I got married in Georgia.

I know what Georgia is like.

so.. whenever this Republican is elected by a bunch of Georgia rednecks, I hope you enjoy the socio-political statement that is undoubtedly being made with what is a ground-breaking referendum on the Trump doctrine.  

Do you call your in-laws "rednecks" and "knuckle-draggers" to their face or just behind their backs???
my nephew and niece are fairly bright.. so they don't fit into your description.

My two brothers-in-law and their wives? Absolutely - they actually take pride in being knuckle-draggers.

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Post by CheesySpartan on 2017-02-27, 13:06

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

Do you call your in-laws "rednecks" and "knuckle-draggers" to their face or just behind their backs???
my nephew and niece are fairly bright.. so they don't fit into your description.

My two brothers-in-law and their wives? Absolutely - they actually take pride in being knuckle-draggers.


It was definitely YOUR description not mine.  You must love family get togethers!  
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-02-27, 13:07

CheesySpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:my nephew and niece are fairly bright.. so they don't fit into your description.

My two brothers-in-law and their wives? Absolutely - they actually take pride in being knuckle-draggers.


I was definitely YOUR description not mine. You must love family get togethers!
there's a reason why we live 800 miles away from them.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-02-28, 18:19

Kind of surprising numbers.

State of the Oval: Morning Consult/Politico poll puts Trump approval at 50%

Democrats should be more worried about 2018, based on this polling. Not only is Trump not pulling down Republican numbers, the GOP is outclassing the Democrats by wide margins on voter trust on the economy (47/34), jobs (47/35), and immigration (45/36) — despite the general freak-out over the so-called “travel ban.” Democrats end up in a virtual tie with Republicans on health care, one of their former policy redoubts, 42/40.

The demos on Trump’s job-approval numbers are fairly predictable, with a couple of mild surprises. Despite the hyperbole over the wall on the southern border, Trump manages to nearly get even among Hispanics, 47/52. He’s also doing slightly better than one might expect among 18-29YOs (36/56), but gets a virtual tie among 30-44YOs (46/48) and wins majorities in all other age demos. Trump also gets a plurality among lower-income (under $50K) Americans, 48/45, and majorities in the other two income demos.

On expectations, Trump scores well almost across the board when combining “more” and “about as expected.” He wins majorities of both men (72%) and women (66%), all age groups, and even gets 55% of Democrats. Almost two-thirds (64%) Hispanics agree on expectations, while 47% of black Americans agree — and only 30% think he’s underperformed so far. One very interesting tidbit: Post-grad voters see Trump as more successful (74%) than the general population.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-02-28, 19:48

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-02-28, 20:20

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

How about a trusted approval poll instead.

Are you thinking Politico is right wing?

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Post by DWags on 2017-02-28, 21:00

I think I'd look at all the polls not one. Then I think I'd remember the election and laugh at every one.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-02-28, 22:08

LooseGoose wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

How about a trusted approval poll instead.

Are you thinking Politico is right wing?

Why do you always limit your thinking to left vs. right?
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Post by CheesySpartan on 2017-02-28, 22:13

DWags wrote:I think I'd look at all the polls not one. Then I think I'd remember the election and laugh at every one.

Well said

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Post by CheesySpartan on 2017-02-28, 22:15

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Are you thinking Politico is right wing?

Why do you always limit your thinking to left vs. right?

I'd love if there was another realistic option

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-02-28, 22:21

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Are you thinking Politico is right wing?

Why do you always limit your thinking to left vs. right?

Because that's the reality of politics?







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Post by CheesySpartan on 2017-02-28, 22:24

Lol. The Democratic response is from a guy who isn't even in office anymore.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-02-28, 22:36

LooseGoose wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Why do you always limit your thinking to left vs. right?

Because that's the reality of politics?







Not really. You sound silly talking the way you do. When was the last time you had an honest conversation with anyone on this board who doesn't share your worldview?
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Post by NigelUno on 2017-02-28, 22:38

This isn't the hodge podge thread!

#6THDISTRICT
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Post by CheesySpartan on 2017-02-28, 22:41

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Because that's the reality of politics?







Not really. You sound silly talking the way you do. When was the last time you had an honest conversation with anyone on this board who doesn't share your worldview?

Nice pointless dig in your 2nd sentence. FYI, now could be one of those times but you failed to matriculate the conversation because you simply answered a ? With a ?...
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-02-28, 23:02

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Because that's the reality of politics?







Not really. You sound silly talking the way you do. When was the last time you had an honest conversation with anyone on this board who doesn't share your worldview?

How about you taking some time to educate my ignorant ass on how politics work if it's not left vs right? Somehow I've missed it my entire life, maybe there's still time for me?

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-02-28, 23:14

LooseGoose wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Not really. You sound silly talking the way you do. When was the last time you had an honest conversation with anyone on this board who doesn't share your worldview?

How about you taking some time to educate my ignorant ass on how politics work if it's not left vs right? Somehow I've missed it my entire life, maybe there's still time for me?

Many have tried before but trying to have a conversation with you is like talking to a brick wall.

Let's get back to the topic of this thread instead of talking about approval ratings or why viewing politics as right vs. left is shortsighted at best.

How does one house seat in Georgia = a referendum on Trump?
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-02-28, 23:15

CheesySpartan wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Not really. You sound silly talking the way you do. When was the last time you had an honest conversation with anyone on this board who doesn't share your worldview?

Nice pointless dig in your 2nd sentence. FYI, now could be one of those times but you failed to matriculate the conversation because you simply answered a ? With a ?...

Is this your 1st time reading some Goose posts?

Here's just the latest attempt I had with Goose to have an honest debate. This is part for the course (the last few posts).

http://spartanswill.forumotion.com/t14168p240-al-gore-and-trump-talk-about-climate-change
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Post by Nordic on 2017-02-28, 23:24

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
...Georgia rednecks....there's a reason why we live 800 miles away from them....bigotry and xenophobia....

I wonder if Bob realizes the irony of these comments
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-03-01, 07:46

Nordic wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
...Georgia rednecks....there's a reason why we live 800 miles away from them....bigotry and xenophobia....

I wonder if Bob realizes the irony of these comments
Bob isn't very bright..

but he's bright enough not to be shocked when the fine folks of Georgia elect a republican.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-03-01, 08:53

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

How about you taking some time to educate my ignorant ass on how politics work if it's not left vs right?   Somehow I've missed it my entire life, maybe there's still time for me?

Many have tried before but trying to have a conversation with you is like talking to a brick wall.

Let's get back to the topic of this thread instead of talking about approval ratings or why viewing politics as right vs. left is shortsighted at best.

How does one house seat in Georgia = a referendum on Trump?

Again, I didn't say that. More words put into my mouth.  That was the headline on the article linked.   My prediction was the R by 10.  The only way the election would be a tell is if we see a narrow R win or a loss.

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Post by NigelUno on 2017-03-01, 09:08

LooseGoose wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Many have tried before but trying to have a conversation with you is like talking to a brick wall.

Let's get back to the topic of this thread instead of talking about approval ratings or why viewing politics as right vs. left is shortsighted at best.

How does one house seat in Georgia = a referendum on Trump?

Again, I didn't say that. More words put into my mouth.  That was the headline on the article linked.   My prediction was the R by 10.  The only way the election would be a tell is if we see a narrow R win or a loss.

It is very unlikely that "the R" will win by 10 on April 18th.  

If it goes to a runoff, you could have 2 Republicans going against each other.

How is any of that "a tell" or referendum on Trump?  

I live in this district.  It's a Republican district.
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Post by GRR Spartan on 2017-03-01, 09:18

Its not a bellweather distrct. Price ran to the right of Trump and won by over 10 points.

If anything the GOP voters will want the next GOP representative to be at least as far right as Price was to help keep Trump from straying.
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Post by NigelUno on 2017-03-01, 09:29

GRR Spartan wrote:Its not a bellweather distrct. Price ran to the right of Trump and won by over 10 points.

If anything the GOP voters will want the next GOP representative to be at least as far right as Price was to help keep Trump from straying.

Price won by over 20% points.

Again...the idea that this election is a referendum on Trump is laughable.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-03-01, 09:31

NigelUno wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Its not a bellweather distrct.  Price ran to the right of Trump and won by over 10 points.  

If anything the GOP voters will want the next GOP representative to be at least as far right as Price was to help keep Trump from straying.

Price won by over 20% points.

Again...the idea that this election is a referendum on Trump is laughable.  
Goose and the mainstream media enjoy floating these sorts of things out.. so when a republican is elected, they can do the "well, America really is supporting the sexual predator's agenda"...

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-03-01, 09:32

GRR Spartan wrote:Its not a bellweather distrct. Price ran to the right of Trump and won by over 10 points.

If anything the GOP voters will want the next GOP representative to be at least as far right as Price was to help keep Trump from straying.

I'd agree it's not a bellweather but odd things happen in special elections.

This one has a Democrat that's never run for office and doesn't live in the district, yet he's raised $2 million to run.

Newcomer with war chest gives Democrats hope in Georgia’s 6th District

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Post by NigelUno on 2017-03-01, 09:36

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Price won by over 20% points.

Again...the idea that this election is a referendum on Trump is laughable.  
Goose and the mainstream media enjoy floating these sorts of things out.. so when a republican is elected, they can act amazed that a bunch of rednecks voted for a republican.

As I said earlier in the thread, if all the Republican candidates split the vote and 2 Democrats come out on top, and then face off in the run-off...it won't mean anything either. That winning Democrat would get voted out the next time. It's a Republican district. Anyone who claims this election is a referendum on anything (Republican or Democrat) is full of crap.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-03-01, 09:39

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Goose and the mainstream media enjoy floating these sorts of things out.. so when a republican is elected, they can act amazed that a bunch of rednecks voted for a republican.

As I said earlier in the thread, if all the Republican candidates split the vote and 2 Democrats come out on top, and then face off in the run-off...it won't mean anything either. That winning Democrat would get voted out the next time. It's a Republican district. Anyone who claims this election is a referendum on anything (Republican or Democrat) is full of crap.
I'd say after that impressive speech last night.. that has experts comparing it to Roosevelt's Fireside Chat... we're going to see a republican elected in Georgia.

It's simply mind-boggling.
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