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Post by DWags Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:42 am

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I am a registered voter.  I don't need to listen to a podcast about my district.  I can just go outside, look around, and see if there's a storm brewing.  I'll let you know in about 10-20 minutes.  Looks like a sunny, no clouds in the sky, Republican day just by glancing out the windows.  

They talk about other stuff too nigel. Don't be a meanie.

Do they talk about MSU sports at all?
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:45 am

Someone reset this for me. So a Georgia congressional district that has consistently voted Republican will be a referendum on Trump? If it goes Democrat yeah, I suppose. I don't think it will though, will it? Or am I missing something.

Also, the Goose's of the world will probably use this vote as proof that America loves Trump or something assuming it goes the way it's supposed to.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:47 am

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Someone reset this for me. So a Georgia congressional district that has consistently voted Republican will be a referendum on Trump? If it goes Democrat yeah, I suppose. I don't think it will though, will it? Or am I missing something.

Also, the Goose's of the world will probably use this vote as proof that America loves Trump or something assuming it goes the way it's supposed to.
I don't know about you, but I will be very, very surprised if a district in Georgia goes republican.

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Post by NigelUno Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:50 am

Here's my district update...

Just saw one of these walking around the neighborhood.  Draw your own conclusions.  

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:36 am

DWags wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

They talk about other stuff too nigel. Don't be a meanie.

Do they talk about MSU sports at all?

Nah. It's really really good though dwags. Id implore anyone to give it a listen.
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:36 am

I'd never want to contradict our oracle of the South......but...golly gee...

For the first time, Democratic hopes of picking off this seat, once occupied by Senator Johnny Isakson, and before that by Newt Gingrich, are beginning to look like something more than wishful thinking. With the first round of the “jungle primary” fast approaching on April 18, Democratic candidate (and former congressional staffer) Jon Ossoff is no longer just an incredibly well-funded neophyte likely to make a runoff against the survivor of an internecine battle between Republicans. He’s now clearly competitive in the runoff as well as the first round.

According to a new survey from Georgia-based Opinion Savvy, Ossoff has the support of 40 percent of likely first-round voters, with Republican front-runner Karen Handel at 20 percent; would-be Trump-clone Bob Gray and State Senator Judson Hill at 10 percent; and former state senator Dan Moody at 8 percent.

More importantly, Opinion Savvy had these numbers for voters screened for likely participation in a near-certain June runoff: Ossoff leading Handel 42/41; Ossoff leading Gray 44/42; and Ossoff tied with Hill at 44 percent.

Democrat Jon Ossoff Is Gaining Ground in Georgia Special Election to Replace Tom Price
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Post by NigelUno Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:07 am

LooseGoose wrote:I'd never want to contradict our oracle of the South......but...golly gee...

For the first time, Democratic hopes of picking off this seat, once occupied by Senator Johnny Isakson, and before that by Newt Gingrich, are beginning to look like something more than wishful thinking. With the first round of the “jungle primary” fast approaching on April 18, Democratic candidate (and former congressional staffer) Jon Ossoff is no longer just an incredibly well-funded neophyte likely to make a runoff against the survivor of an internecine battle between Republicans. He’s now clearly competitive in the runoff as well as the first round.

According to a new survey from Georgia-based Opinion Savvy, Ossoff has the support of 40 percent of likely first-round voters, with Republican front-runner Karen Handel at 20 percent; would-be Trump-clone Bob Gray and State Senator Judson Hill at 10 percent; and former state senator Dan Moody at 8 percent.

More importantly, Opinion Savvy had these numbers for voters screened for likely participation in a near-certain June runoff: Ossoff leading Handel 42/41; Ossoff leading Gray 44/42; and Ossoff tied with Hill at 44 percent.

Democrat Jon Ossoff Is Gaining Ground in Georgia Special Election to Replace Tom Price

Seems like a great poll.

So, the current leader for the Republicans (by double) will get less votes than the #2 and the #3 Republican in the runoff?

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:49 pm

Georgia Dems normally raise $10,000 for this House seat. This April they’ll have $3 million.

The anti-Trump resistance movement is about to get its first big electoral test.

More than 7,000 people have already volunteered for Ossoff’s campaign, and he has raised more than $3 million — unprecedented numbers for the congressional district.

The April 18 special election in Georgia’s Sixth Congressional District is Democrats’ first chance to eat into Republicans’ House majority — and potentially preview the 2018 midterm elections. “Normally, a Democrat running for Price’s seat would be lucky to raise $10,000 to $20,000,” says Phil Lunney, legislative liaison for the Fulton County Democrats. “There’s been nothing like it here, at least in the 21st century.”

But the race, held in a deeply conservative district long dominated by Republicans, will also be a test of something equally vital — whether the grassroots anti-Trump activism can be translated into electoral success. Ossoff’s race is offering a test-run for whether the outpouring of energy in the streets can be harnessed by the Democratic Party, or if it will prove beyond the grasp of its politicians.
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Post by NigelUno Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:59 pm

Yard signs for this election are outnumbering Presidential yard signs about 1000/1.

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Post by The_Dude Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:13 pm

NigelUno wrote:Yard signs for this election are outnumbering Presidential yard signs about 1000/1.


Remember when GA was possibly in play then Trump won in a landslide?

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Post by NigelUno Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:20 pm

The_Dude wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Yard signs for this election are outnumbering Presidential yard signs about 1000/1.


Remember when GA was possibly in play then Trump won in a landslide?

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You thought Georgia was in play?

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:10 pm

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Dems 60, Rep 28 in Day 1 of in-person early voting in GA-6.
The 2016 electorate was D 23, R 46.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:01 am

Yeah, I don't care about any of this. Have fun propping this up as a huge win for whichever side wins.  The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 55953254
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:10 am

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Yeah, I don't care about any of this. Have fun propping this up as a huge win for whichever side wins.  The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 55953254
something tells me that whatever happens (after the republican is elected), Goosechev and his friends in the mainstream media will spin it as a referendum on the popularity of the sexual predator.
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Post by NigelUno Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:15 am

Alyssa Milano Is Literally Driving Voters to the Polls for Georgia’s Special Election

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:39 am

NigelUno wrote:Alyssa Milano Is Literally Driving Voters to the Polls for Georgia’s Special Election

*when the republican wins in {gasp} Georgia*

"poor 'ol librul dems called in their Hollywood elite and still couldn't defeat the republican wave sweeping the nation"..

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Post by Cameron Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:40 am

Let me get this straight (after having read the thread but zero of the links shared): there is an election in Georgia in a place that always goes R; Goose predicts an R to win by ten; he also shares many links suggesting that the results of this election will have implications on the wider political climate of the nation, yet he seems unwilling to defend that notion when it is questioned (yet he keeps posting links). Strange behavior.

My takeaway is that if an R wins > no story, if a D wins > referendum. No win scenario for Goose, no wonder he's cranky.
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Post by AnomanderRake Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:51 am

Cameron wrote:Let me get this straight (after having read the thread but zero of the links shared): there is an election in Georgia in a place that always goes R; Goose predicts an R to win by ten; he also shares many links suggesting that the results of this election will have implications on the wider political climate of the nation, yet he seems unwilling to defend that notion when it is questioned (yet he keeps posting links). Strange behavior.

My takeaway is that if an R wins > no story, if a D wins > referendum. No win scenario for Goose, no wonder he's cranky.

Pretty accurate. And the Dem running has apparently received an outrageous funding spike for this election relative to previous elections.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:53 am

Cameron wrote:Let me get this straight (after having read the thread but zero of the links shared): there is an election in Georgia in a place that always goes R; Goose predicts an R to win by ten; he also shares many links suggesting that the results of this election will have implications on the wider political climate of the nation, yet he seems unwilling to defend that notion when it is questioned (yet he keeps posting links). Strange behavior.

My takeaway is that if an R wins > no story, if a D wins > referendum. No win scenario for Goose, no wonder he's cranky.
he's also provided us a lot of mainstream media articles ... The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600 The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600
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Post by NigelUno Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:58 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Alyssa Milano Is Literally Driving Voters to the Polls for Georgia’s Special Election

*when the republican wins in {gasp} Georgia*

"poor 'ol librul dems called in their Hollywood elite and still couldn't defeat the republican wave sweeping the nation"..

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The Democrat could win. Depends on how many illegal votes there are.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:09 am

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
*when the republican wins in {gasp} Georgia*

"poor 'ol librul dems called in their Hollywood elite and still couldn't defeat the republican wave sweeping the nation"..

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The Democrat could win. Depends on how many illegal votes there are.
meh - only if the activist judges assert themselves and put a stain on the democratic process.



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Cameron wrote:Let me get this straight (after having read the thread but zero of the links shared): there is an election in Georgia in a place that always goes R; Goose predicts an R to win by ten; he also shares many links suggesting that the results of this election will have implications on the wider political climate of the nation, yet he seems unwilling to defend that notion when it is questioned (yet he keeps posting links). Strange behavior.

My takeaway is that if an R wins > no story, if a D wins > referendum. No win scenario for Goose, no wonder he's cranky.


I'm not cranky. I'm posting links because I like following politics and this is the most interesting race out there right now. Plus it's fun pointing out that our correspondent on the ground didn't know his ass when he said there was no chance this would be competitive.
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Post by NigelUno Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:17 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
Cameron wrote:Let me get this straight (after having read the thread but zero of the links shared): there is an election in Georgia in a place that always goes R; Goose predicts an R to win by ten; he also shares many links suggesting that the results of this election will have implications on the wider political climate of the nation, yet he seems unwilling to defend that notion when it is questioned (yet he keeps posting links). Strange behavior.

My takeaway is that if an R wins > no story, if a D wins > referendum. No win scenario for Goose, no wonder he's cranky.


I'm not cranky. I'm posting links because I like following politics and this is the most interesting race out there right now. Plus it's fun pointing out that our correspondent on the ground didn't know his ass when he said there was no chance this would be competitive.

Huh.

Pretty sure you said the R would win by 10 points on April 18th.

That's not going to happen.

I don't think I said it wouldn't be competitive. I said it wouldn't be significant (no matter which side won).

I never said the R would win by 10 points. You said that. One could argue that you said it wouldn't be competitive (by saying the R would win by 10 points), right?

Ossoff might win if the Republicans are too lazy to vote in the run off. If the Democrats were smart, they should have made every one drop out of the race except Ossoff.
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Post by The_Dude Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:03 pm

NigelUno wrote:
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I'm not cranky.   I'm posting links because I like following politics and this is the most interesting race out there right now.   Plus it's fun pointing out that our correspondent on the ground didn't know his ass when he said there was no chance this would be competitive.

Huh.  

Pretty sure you said the R would win by 10 points on April 18th.

That's not going to happen.

I don't think I said it wouldn't be competitive.  I said it wouldn't be significant (no matter which side won).

I never said the R would win by 10 points.  You said that.  One could argue that you said it wouldn't be competitive (by saying the R would win by 10 points), right?

Ossoff might win if the Republicans are too lazy to vote in the run off.  If the Democrats were smart, they should have made every one drop out of the race except Ossoff.  

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Post by NigelUno Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:08 pm

Conversely, if the Republicans were smart, they wouldn't have 11 people running.
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Post by The_Dude Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:11 pm

NigelUno wrote:Conversely, if the Republicans were smart, they wouldn't have 11 people running.  

Think about how fucking dumb Republicans are...and then realize they own both chambers of Congress and the White House....The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600
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Post by NigelUno Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:16 pm

The_Dude wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Conversely, if the Republicans were smart, they wouldn't have 11 people running.  

Think about how fucking dumb Republicans are...and then realize they own both chambers of Congress and the White House....The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600

Yeah. Weird how they couldn't repeal Obamacare on Day One, eh?

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Post by The_Dude Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:34 pm

NigelUno wrote:
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Think about how fucking dumb Republicans are...and then realize they own both chambers of Congress and the White House....The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600

Yeah. Weird how they couldn't repeal Obamacare on Day One, eh?


Well, people with a brain know that healthcare is a giant clusterfuck and it was stupid to try and repeal it so soon especially without a well thought out plan to replace it with.

They should have just let obamacare simmer in its own shit for a few more years. Dems still own it.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:43 pm

The_Dude wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Yeah.  Weird how they couldn't repeal Obamacare on Day One, eh?


Well, people with a brain know that healthcare is a giant clusterfuck and it was stupid to try and repeal it so soon especially without a well thought out plan to replace it with.

They should have just let obamacare simmer in its own shit for a few more years.  Dems still own it.

The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600 No. That's like saying Mike Illitch still owns the Tigers and Red Wings.
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Post by NigelUno Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:44 pm

The_Dude wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Yeah. Weird how they couldn't repeal Obamacare on Day One, eh?


Well, people with a brain know that healthcare is a giant clusterfuck and it was stupid to try and repeal it so soon especially without a well thought out plan to replace it with.

They should have just let obamacare simmer in its own shit for a few more years. Dems still own it.

Huh. Why did they vote to repeal it before then?

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:25 pm

NigelUno wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Well, people with a brain know that healthcare is a giant clusterfuck and it was stupid to try and repeal it so soon especially without a well thought out plan to replace it with.

They should have just let obamacare simmer in its own shit for a few more years. Dems still own it.

Huh. Why did they vote to repeal it before then?

And how long did they have to come up with a plan? 7 years? So soon? The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600
as I mentioned in another thread, it was easy when used as red meat to be thrown at racist knuckle-draggers during election season..

truth be told, Obamacare is very effective and insures millions who otherwise wouldn't have access to affordable healthcare. Not quite as easy to appease the racist knuckle-draggers when reality is introduced into the equation.
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Post by The_Dude Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:35 pm

NigelUno wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Well, people with a brain know that healthcare is a giant clusterfuck and it was stupid to try and repeal it so soon especially without a well thought out plan to replace it with.

They should have just let obamacare simmer in its own shit for a few more years. Dems still own it.

Huh. Why did they vote to repeal it before then?

And how long did they have to come up with a plan? 7 years? So soon? The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600

Congress trying to come up with a bi partisan healthcare bill....The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600

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Post by NigelUno Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:09 pm

The_Dude wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Huh. Why did they vote to repeal it before then?

And how long did they have to come up with a plan? 7 years? So soon? The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600

Congress trying to come up with a bi partisan healthcare bill....The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600


Bi-partisan?

Didn't you just mention Republican control of Congress and The White House?

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Post by The_Dude Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:27 pm

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The_Dude wrote:

Congress trying to come up with a bi partisan healthcare bill....The 1st test - April 18th - Georgia - Page 3 502811600


Bi-partisan?

Didn't you just mention Republican control of Congress and The White House?


So being in control of Congress means you should just pass a law similarly to how the Dems did with Obamacare? In the most cloak and dagger, partisan way possible?

That's why Obamacare is crumbling. When you have to engage in hyper partisan politics to pass a huge bill like this, it's doomed to fail. There were several GOP physicians who were in the House t the time and Obama/Dems didn't even ask a single one of them for any input on their monstrous healthcare bill.
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Post by DWags Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:59 pm

Republicans control everything. Somehow not passing this is dems fault? People are idiots.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:09 pm

DWags wrote:Republicans control everything. Somehow not passing this is dems fault? People are idiots.
and deplorable.

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Post by DWags Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:15 pm

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DWags wrote:Republicans control everything. Somehow not passing this is dems fault? People are idiots.
and deplorable.


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Post by The_Dude Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:16 pm

DWags wrote:Republicans control everything. Somehow not passing this is dems fault? People are idiots.

Huh?

What's the point in passing a piece of shit just to pass apiece of shit? What's the point of passing something with only R or D support like Obamacare was?

Isn't the point to actually pass a good bill with input from both sides?
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Post by NigelUno Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:23 pm

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DWags wrote:Republicans control everything.  Somehow not passing this is dems fault? People are idiots.

Huh?

What's the point in passing a piece of shit just to pass apiece of shit? What's the point of passing something with only R or D support like Obamacare was?

Isn't the point to actually pass a good bill with input from both sides?

I don't know.  Let's ask this guy...

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Post by The_Dude Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:27 pm

So don't even try because Dems are petty? It might come to that but not in Trumps third month.

When you pass hyper partisan bills you pave the way for it to be undone when the other party inevitably regains control.
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