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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by DWags on 2017-06-14, 13:01

LooseGoose wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Was Dunkirk Fake News?
1967 riots Fake News?
Tet Offensive Fake News?

We have a liar in The White House who authorized televising a cabinet meeting that appeared scripted so he could hear his appointees praise him. I'm s that because he's new to the job of President too?

And now we have the normalviolence from the left in VA - shooting an R congressman.

Wow.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by GRR Spartan on 2017-06-14, 13:40

DWags wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

And now we have the normalviolence from the left in VA - shooting an R congressman.

Wow.

it's gotten to anything to make a point.

When do folks stop using Fake News as a way to minimize or disregard events or people.

A guy with a gun and dozens of rounds drove 13 hours/ 800 miles to try to kill people.

It's real news. Real people were shot.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by InTenSity on 2017-06-14, 14:12

Since my last post, was the last post of the thread, and maybe WOP didn't see it. Is banning LG a site wide ban, or is it only for this forum? I don't necessarily agree with his politics at all, but 2 weeks is a bit harsh, especially if its for the whole site.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-14, 14:15

InTenSity wrote:Since my last post, was the last post of the thread, and maybe WOP didn't see it. Is banning LG a site wide ban, or is it only for this forum? I don't necessarily agree with his politics at all, but 2 weeks is a bit harsh, especially if its for the whole site.

It's side wide. That's the only kind of ban we can do. As far as I know at least.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-06-14, 14:29

InTenSity wrote:Since my last post, was the last post of the thread, and maybe WOP didn't see it. Is banning LG a site wide ban, or is it only for this forum? I don't necessarily agree with his politics at all, but 2 weeks is a bit harsh, especially if its for the whole site.

Goose's comments were over the line. I warned him once specifically, and once again to everyone on the main board. It was offensive beyond what is typically discussed on this board. I banned him as long as other trolls have been banned for, which is two weeks.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-06-14, 15:24

Goose is banned? Whoa. I saw his first comment. What did he post a second time to get the hammer?

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-06-14, 15:35

tGreenWay wrote:Goose is banned? Whoa. I saw his first comment. What did he post a second time to get the hammer?

Except that I turned out to be absolutely right. I've been pointing out the left wing violence for months now. You cannot whip these idiots into a frenzy and expect nothing to happen. The Dem leaders - Schumer, Pelosi, Warren, Sanders, Perez need to look themselves in the mirror and ask if this is what they want as they promote a coup against Trump.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-06-14, 15:54

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Goose is banned? Whoa. I saw his first comment. What did he post a second time to get the hammer?

Except that I turned out to be absolutely right. I've been pointing out the left wing violence for months now. You cannot whip these idiots into a frenzy and expect nothing to happen. The Dem leaders - Schumer, Pelosi, Warren, Sanders, Perez need to look themselves in the mirror and ask if this is what they want as they promote a coup against Trump.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-06-14, 16:18

InTenSity wrote:Since my last post, was the last post of the thread, and maybe WOP didn't see it. Is banning LG a site wide ban, or is it only for this forum? I don't necessarily agree with his politics at all, but 2 weeks is a bit harsh, especially if its for the whole site.

Hey InTenSity,

Full transparency here. I was talking with the other mods (Travis) and two weeks is in fact too harsh for a first offense. I've asked Heat or SRC to reduce the length to a day.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by InTenSity on 2017-06-14, 16:30

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
InTenSity wrote:Since my last post, was the last post of the thread, and maybe WOP didn't see it. Is banning LG a site wide ban, or is it only for this forum? I don't necessarily agree with his politics at all, but 2 weeks is a bit harsh, especially if its for the whole site.

Hey InTenSity,

Full transparency here. I was talking with the other mods (Travis) and two weeks is in fact too harsh for a first offense. I've asked Heat or SRC to reduce the length to a day.

I think this hurt your chances of getting some pie though.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-14, 16:34

Remember when I banned turtleneck for a day?

Best day the swill ever had.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by InTenSity on 2017-06-14, 16:41

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Remember when I banned turtleneck for a day?

Best day the swill ever had.
He never came back. Except that one time you left the wifi on.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-06-14, 16:43

InTenSity wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Hey InTenSity,

Full transparency here. I was talking with the other mods (Travis) and two weeks is in fact too harsh for a first offense. I've asked Heat or SRC to reduce the length to a day.

I think this hurt your chances of getting some pie though.


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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-06-14, 18:06

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
InTenSity wrote:Since my last post, was the last post of the thread, and maybe WOP didn't see it. Is banning LG a site wide ban, or is it only for this forum? I don't necessarily agree with his politics at all, but 2 weeks is a bit harsh, especially if its for the whole site.

Hey InTenSity,

Full transparency here. I was talking with the other mods (Travis) and two weeks is in fact too harsh for a first offense. I've asked Heat or SRC to reduce the length to a day.

So you fucked up. Really screwed the pooch. Again. You probably made it so I couldnt quote other posters, too. Can't you do anything right?

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-06-14, 18:15

tGreenWay wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Hey InTenSity,

Full transparency here. I was talking with the other mods (Travis) and two weeks is in fact too harsh for a first offense. I've asked Heat or SRC to reduce the length to a day.

So you fucked up. Really screwed the pooch. Again. You probably made it so I couldnt quote other posters, too. Can't you do anything right?

Talking shit to a guy that just banned someone for 2 weeks? Bold strategy.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-06-14, 20:45

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

So you fucked up. Really screwed the pooch. Again. You probably made it so I couldnt quote other posters, too. Can't you do anything right?

Talking shit to a guy that just banned someone for 2 weeks? Bold strategy.

Mods, please ban Pylon for threatening me.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by msugolfguy on 2017-06-15, 05:44

Serious question as I've done a lot of traveling lately for work. Where in the hell do people have the time to call into conservative radio shows in the middle of the day? They wait 30 minutes and then make a 30 second point. I guess it's just like sport's talk radio, but my God what a waste of time.

Also I'm 99 percent certain Lars is John McCullough who does a one hour show from 5 to 6 on the Patriot. They both say some crazy stuff.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-06-15, 07:50

msugolfguy wrote:Serious question as I've done a lot of traveling lately for work. Where in the hell do people have the time to call into conservative radio shows in the middle of the day? They wait 30 minutes and then make a 30 second point. I guess it's just like sport's talk radio, but my God what a waste of time.

Also I'm 99 percent certain Lars is John McCullough who does a one hour show from 5 to 6 on the Patriot. They both say some crazy stuff.
angry right wing nuts are generally old, white folks who have nothing productive to do but sit around and whine about the government.. which they're very likely living off of.

they only have contempt for the government when it helps.. "those people"...
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Rocinante on 2017-06-15, 11:20

In truth, I think everyone bears some responsibility for what happened. It sounds like the guy was disturbed, but not incapable of rational thought. There is a toxicity of discourse that needs to stop. The leaders on the left need to embrace where the energy is coming from instead of sticking to their corporatists bullshit and shunning progressives as "pie in the sky." The rank and file left need to tone down the violent rhetoric. You can be aggressively on-message without calling for people's heads. The right leadership needs to do the same: Stop tacitly endorsing the racism, misogyny, and xenophobia of the alt-right. Stop avoiding constituents that don't agree with them. Avoiding them fosters mistrust and anger and increases the chance that some fringe person like this goes over the edge. Then we have a self-fulfilling prophecy. The alt-right, Fox news, the right media juggernaut in general need to just shut the fuck up. They are the root of this problem. Fox and roger ailes is where this tribalism started. It sickens me. We all can do better.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-06-15, 11:29

Rocinante wrote:In truth, I think everyone bears some responsibility for what happened.  It sounds like the guy was disturbed, but not incapable of rational thought.  There is a toxicity of discourse that needs to stop.  The leaders on the left need to embrace where the energy is coming from instead of sticking to their corporatists bullshit and shunning progressives as "pie in the sky."  The rank and file left need to tone down the violent rhetoric.  You can be aggressively on-message without calling for people's heads.  The right leadership needs to do the same:  Stop tacitly endorsing the racism, misogyny, and xenophobia of the alt-right.  Stop avoiding constituents that don't agree with them.  Avoiding them fosters mistrust and anger and increases the chance that some fringe person like this goes over the edge.  Then we have a self-fulfilling prophecy.  The alt-right, Fox news, the right media juggernaut in general need to just shut the fuck up.  They are the root of this problem.  Fox and roger ailes is where this tribalism started.  It sickens me.  We all can do better.

I'm actually shocked by the level of viciousness.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Rocinante on 2017-06-15, 11:33

But in the end, Bob, it doesn't matter where it started, or that our president is so openly corrupt that it is shocking and infuriating. We live in a society and need to take responsibility for the energy we put out. We can oppose the president without encouraging (openly or not) violence.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-06-15, 11:43

Rocinante wrote:But in the end, Bob, it doesn't matter where it started, or that our president is so openly corrupt that it is shocking and infuriating.  We live in a society and need to take responsibility for the energy we put out.  We can oppose the president without encouraging (openly or not) violence.
I agree completely.

But I think the road to redemption as a country starts with the president - who openly advocates for violence at his rallies, suggests that someone shoot his opponent, etc.

trust me - I want a leader that I can admire, even if I disagree with him/her. But it's hard to admire someone who is corrupt, violent and has an open and blatant disregard for America, women, minorities and basically anyone unlike him.

starts at the top, dude. And the republicans and mainstream media can whine all they want - but they own the House, the Senate and the White House - it's time for them to act like it.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-06-15, 11:49

from Twitter:

Pete Souza‏ @PeteSouza

Here's a suggestion for Congressional baseball game: co-mingle the teams instead of Dems vs GOP
think about that for a second - in this time of "healing" or whatever.. while everyone is sending out their thoughts and prayers. How cool would it be if this actually happened?

but do you think it will happen? Heck no - imagine the tone on the right wing hate radio shows and the mainstream media if something - even something symbolic such as this - happened? It would be a total feeding frenzy.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-06-15, 12:08

here's the mainstream media last night:

Fox News‏Verified account @FoxNews

.@seanhannity: When Democrats continue to dehumanize Republicans...the climate around the country becomes more than toxic.

   
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by NigelUno on 2017-06-15, 13:26

Robert J Sakimano wrote:from Twitter:

Pete Souza‏ @PeteSouza

Here's a suggestion for Congressional baseball game: co-mingle the teams instead of Dems vs GOP
think about that for a second - in this time of "healing" or whatever.. while everyone is sending out their thoughts and prayers. How cool would it be if this actually happened?

but do you think it will happen? Heck no - imagine the tone on the right wing hate radio shows and the mainstream media if something - even something symbolic such as this - happened? It would be a total feeding frenzy.

Are you The Swill's new twitter guy?
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-06-15, 13:55

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:from Twitter:

think about that for a second - in this time of "healing" or whatever.. while everyone is sending out their thoughts and prayers. How cool would it be if this actually happened?

but do you think it will happen? Heck no - imagine the tone on the right wing hate radio shows and the mainstream media if something - even something symbolic such as this - happened? It would be a total feeding frenzy.

Are you The Swill's new twitter guy?  
in Goose's absence, I attended a brief online copy/paste tutorial..

so, in a word.. sort of.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-06-15, 14:10

From the Dept. of You cant make this shit up: The Texas pastor who demonized Obama has called for people to stop demonizing Republicans.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/pastor-who-demonized-obama-as-the-antichrist-calls-for-end-to-political-demonization-of-republicans/

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Post by Rocinante on 2017-06-15, 15:13

Yeah but in his defense, Obama is black.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-06-15, 15:13

tGreenWay wrote:From the Dept. of You cant make this shit up: The Texas pastor who demonized Obama has called for people to stop demonizing Republicans.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/pastor-who-demonized-obama-as-the-antichrist-calls-for-end-to-political-demonization-of-republicans/
he's falling in line with the sexual predator and his quest for loyalty.. like his poor little snowflake daughter who was {gasp} shocked at the "level of viciousness" some people have.. and one of his other pathetic offsprings from one of his other wives.. saying that Democrats aren't even people...

pretty funny to watch the christians come completely unglued as it relates to the admiration for the sexual predator.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-06-15, 16:40

Rocinante wrote:Yeah but in his defense, Obama is black.

I just checked and you're right. Holy fuck!

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-06-15, 16:54

tGreenWay wrote:
Rocinante wrote:Yeah but in his defense, Obama is black.

I just checked and you're right. Holy fuck!


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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-06-16, 09:05



I've only watched maybe 5 minutes of this, but damn, I wish today's interviews were respectful as this. I know, they'll never be like this again, and I'm not talking about the cigarette smoking.

I posted this here because Wallace and Wright get into some pretty heavy political discussion. And there's no yelling or bias on Wallace's part. It's amazing! Also, Frank Lloyd Wright was a smart mother fucker.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by GRR Spartan on 2017-06-16, 14:51

Sounds like the US is back to being tough on Cuba.

What's the desired outcome? The Cuban government that's managed to stay in power for over 50 years is going to throw up its hands and return to 1950's style Cuba where the US backed dictator Batista had cozy relationships with the islands wealthiest residents?
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Rocinante on 2017-06-16, 15:58

GRR Spartan wrote:Sounds like the US is back to being tough on Cuba.

What's the desired outcome? The Cuban government that's managed to stay in power for over 50 years is going to throw up its hands and return to 1950's style Cuba where the US backed dictator Batista had cozy relationships with the islands wealthiest residents?

IT'S NOT A GOOD ENOUGH DEAL FOR AMERICA. IF I CAN GET US A BETTER DEAL? GREAT! IF NOT, THAT'S OKAY TOO!

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-16, 16:03

GRR Spartan wrote:Sounds like the US is back to being tough on Cuba.

What's the desired outcome? The Cuban government that's managed to stay in power for over 50 years is going to throw up its hands and return to 1950's style Cuba where the US backed dictator Batista had cozy relationships with the islands wealthiest residents?

It's not nearly as complicated as that.

Obama did it so it's bad.

That's it. No other deep thought there.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-16, 16:14

This one and the Tamir Rice case in Cleveland were the most obvious police murders I've seen in recent years, and neither was punished. It disgusts me that they are allowed to literally get away with murder. I don't even know what it would take anymore. Maybe a video, that's made public, where the officer says "hey I'm going to murder you now." Lacking that, we just have to accept that we live in a police state.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/police-officer-found-not-guilty-in-the-fatal-shooting-of?utm_term=.uyeM5jk3z&bftwnews#.oxvp4X61w

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by msugolfguy on 2017-06-16, 16:46

That is pretty unbelievable, but drugs probably tipped the scales.
I don't know how anyone can say that isn't cruel and unusual punishment for the crime committed (breaklight). However I'm open to suggestions.
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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-06-16, 16:52

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:This one and the Tamir Rice case in Cleveland were the most obvious police murders I've seen in recent years, and neither was punished. It disgusts me that they are allowed to literally get away with murder. I don't even know what it would take anymore. Maybe a video, that's made public, where the officer says "hey I'm going to murder you now." Lacking that, we just have to accept that we live in a police state.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/police-officer-found-not-guilty-in-the-fatal-shooting-of?utm_term=.uyeM5jk3z&bftwnews#.oxvp4X61w

Some of us more than others, depending on skin color. But yeah, government sanctioned murder.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-16, 16:55

msugolfguy wrote: That is pretty unbelievable, but drugs probably tipped the scales.
I don't know how anyone can say that isn't cruel and unusual punishment for the crime committed (breaklight). However I'm open to suggestions.

It's just pure lunacy that the NRA and such will tell you that the first thing you should do if you are pulled over while carrying a gun is to tell the officer you're carrying a gun. So, he did that, but the moment he did his fate was sealed. This cop is a chicken shit coward who murdered a guy because he was trying to get his wallet. There is no excuse in the world for that. He belongs in prison. Period.

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Re: The political hodge podge thread

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-06-16, 17:04

Pretty sure the law in Michigan says the driver has to immediately inform the officer that he's carrying.

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