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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-23, 07:31

Check out the view! MSU's new $157 million complex takes shape




EAST LANSING - The latest addition to Michigan State University's campus is taking shape on a former parking lot across the street from the home of Spartan basketball.

1855 Place — named for the year of MSU's founding — is its answer to students' desire for apartment-style housing.

The 10 buildings in the complex will ultimately hold more than 420 new student housing units, ranging from studio apartments to townhouses.

The largest building in 1855 Place is a four-story, 102,000-square-foot, mixed-use building that'll house staff from Residential Hospitality Services and the MSU Athletics Department.

Planted near the corner of Kalamazoo and Harrison, its eastward-facing windows give a sprawling view of campus, including the Breslin Student Events Center and Spartan Stadium.

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Post by gHost Spartan on 2017-05-23, 08:29

I thought that living in the dorms was kind of fun. Granted, I only did it for one year, but there's something nice about dorm life. I guess these kids are different than we used to be.
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Post by CheesySpartan on 2017-05-23, 09:52

$785/month per student for a 4 bedroom. Shocked Our entire apartment didn't cost that much (like $600) and that was split between 3 guys. It was 20 years ago I guess.

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Post by DWags on 2017-05-23, 10:30

CheesySpartan wrote:$785/month per student for a 4 bedroom. Shocked Our entire apartment didn't cost that much (like $600) and that was split between 3 guys. It was 20 years ago I guess.

LOL. I went to school for a bit under 7 grand a year. I'm now writing checks for 27K a year. Our apartments shared a bathroom and our dorm and food were blah. These apartments, have a common kitchen and living room, four seperate rooms each with their own study room and bathroom.

Cafe's are incredible. and they won't stop improving.

I could make about 2/3rds of the money needed for college in the summer. I told my daughter if she gets a job making 18K this summer, quit school. Keep the job.

Shit has to stop.

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Post by The Pantry on 2017-05-23, 10:32

How much is the dorm nowadays?
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-23, 10:36

The Pantry wrote:How much is the dorm nowadays?

$5K per semester
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Post by NigelUno on 2017-05-23, 10:37

gHost Spartan wrote:I thought that living in the dorms was kind of fun. Granted, I only did it for one year, but there's something nice about dorm life. I guess these kids are different than we used to be.

It's just a different (and nicer) option, and probably a much needed one. Kids can still live in traditional dorms with food plans.
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2017-05-23, 10:39

CheesySpartan wrote:$785/month per student for a 4 bedroom. Shocked   Our entire apartment didn't cost that much (like $600) and that was split between 3 guys.  It was 20 years ago I guess.

Went for the dorm to a house two blocks behind Dooleys with six other guys.  Everybody got their own bedroom for $125.00 a month. The best thing was that we were the first students to ever live in that house, meaning it wasn't trashed when we moved in.

Granted, that was almost 40 years ago.
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Post by steveschneider on 2017-05-23, 11:23

DWags wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:$785/month per student for a 4 bedroom. Shocked Our entire apartment didn't cost that much (like $600) and that was split between 3 guys. It was 20 years ago I guess.

LOL. I went to school for a bit under 7 grand a year. I'm now writing checks for 27K a year. Our apartments shared a bathroom and our dorm and food were blah. These apartments, have a common kitchen and living room, four seperate rooms each with their own study room and bathroom.

Cafe's are incredible. and they won't stop improving.

I could make about 2/3rds of the money needed for college in the summer. I told my daughter if she gets a job making 18K this summer, quit school. Keep the job.

Shit has to stop.

I left school with about 21k in debt. If I went today I'd probably leave with about 80 - 90k in debt. As much as I loved going to MSU no way I'd go there today.
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Post by goodbar on 2017-05-23, 16:20

gHost Spartan wrote:I thought that living in the dorms was kind of fun. Granted, I only did it for one year, but there's something nice about dorm life. I guess these kids are different than we used to be.

it was really cool to see who could build the coolest lofts and stuff.
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Post by Stoops21 on 2017-05-23, 18:01

So freshman can live in these or just new apartments? 785 is insane for a four bedroom. A lot of Asians in range rovers will be moving in though that's for sure.
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Post by CORNER BLITZ on 2017-05-23, 18:17

Stoops21 wrote:So freshman can live in these or just new apartments? 785 is insane for a four bedroom. A lot of Asians in range rovers will be moving in though that's for sure.

Too cheap for the Asians
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Post by The Pantry on 2017-05-23, 19:30

LooseGoose wrote:
The Pantry wrote:How much is the dorm nowadays?

$5K per semester
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Can't quite recall how much the dorm was in the late 70's...does $700 a term sound right?  Of course, it was trimesters back then.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-23, 19:44

The Pantry wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

$5K per semester
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Can't quite recall how much the dorm was in the late 70's...does $700 a term sound right?  Of course, it was trimesters back then.

Yep, 10 weeks at a time. I recall the dorms being close to $1000 but even then a helluva deal. Room, utilities and 3 squares a day (except Sunday) for $100 a week.

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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-05-23, 20:21

Hey Wake,
Lemme get this straight: Can anybody at all eat at Brody? Even people with no affiliation to MSU whatsoever?

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Post by The Pantry on 2017-05-23, 20:29

LooseGoose wrote:
The Pantry wrote:
Can't quite recall how much the dorm was in the late 70's...does $700 a term sound right?  Of course, it was trimesters back then.

Yep, 10 weeks at a time.   I recall the dorms being close to $1000 but even then a helluva deal.   Room, utilities and 3 squares a day (except Sunday) for $100 a week.
Yeah, that figure is probably right.  R&B costed more than tuition.

MSU tuition:  Last number I can recall before graduating was $32.50 per credit hour
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Post by CORNER BLITZ on 2017-05-23, 20:39

tGreenWay wrote:Hey Wake,
Lemme get this straight: Can anybody at all eat at Brody? Even people with no affiliation to MSU whatsoever?

Correct

And idk that I would say the cafes are incredible
... It's much the same but looks nicer and is open more often
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Post by DWags on 2017-05-23, 20:45

CORNER BLITZ wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Hey Wake,
Lemme get this straight: Can anybody at all eat at Brody? Even people with no affiliation to MSU whatsoever?

Correct

And idk that I would say the cafes are incredible
... It's much the same but looks nicer and is open more often

Thought about doing it more than once as I was staying at Kellogg this year about ten weekends and the kids apartment complex was a quarter mile west of Brody. But the road house serves alcohol. No real choice.

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Post by DWags on 2017-05-23, 20:48

The Pantry wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Yep, 10 weeks at a time.   I recall the dorms being close to $1000 but even then a helluva deal.   Room, utilities and 3 squares a day (except Sunday) for $100 a week.
Yeah, that figure is probably right.  R&B costed more than tuition.

MSU tuition:  Last number I can recall before graduating was $32.50 per credit hour

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Post by Tim Wakefield on 2017-05-23, 20:57

Yup anyone can come in. You'd be shocked how many fuckin families come in here on holidays (Easter, Mother's Day, etc.). A college cafeteria. We hate the public

Like DWags said, unless you can get in free on Swill Day @ Brody, go grab a beer with your lunch/dinner right down the road. Speaking of, Friday from 3-8 will be Swill Day @ Brody. Free admission to all posters
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-05-23, 21:00

Totally bringing my kids in there just to piss you guys off next time in town.

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Post by Tim Wakefield on 2017-05-23, 21:05

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Totally bringing my kids in there just to piss you guys off next time in town.

I'm outta here soon asshole

As soon as I get sick of it I'm quitting on the spot. This caf has turned into a horrible place to work and at this point I'm just collecting a paycheck. They pay me $12/hr
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Post by CORNER BLITZ on 2017-05-23, 21:17

What are the food options after 8?
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Post by The Pantry on 2017-05-23, 21:22

goodbar wrote:
gHost Spartan wrote:I thought that living in the dorms was kind of fun. Granted, I only did it for one year, but there's something nice about dorm life. I guess these kids are different than we used to be.

it was really cool to see who could build the coolest lofts and stuff.
Didn't do much with the room freshman year but took notice of some poorly designed and constructed lofts. Planned for sophomore year over the summer. Did some cool shit with the room. Put the desks and bunk bed supports in storage. Only university supplied furniture we kept were the bed spring frames, mattresses, and couch/pullout. Wasn't exactly a loft but built a structure that hung the bed frames from the ceiling on each side of room. Very open design.

Built a nice looking bar that summer that also served as a desk. Designed it so it could be broken down quickly and be easy to move.

No social media back then except newspaper. That room would have easily been in the top 10 on campus.
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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-05-23, 21:24

Tim Wakefield wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Totally bringing my kids in there just to piss you guys off next time in town.

I'm outta here soon asshole

As soon as I get sick of it I'm quitting on the spot. This caf has turned into a horrible place to work and at this point I'm just collecting a paycheck. They pay me $12/hr

Unsolicited advice: It may feel good to say fuck it and walk out, but try not to burn bridges. That's a job on your resume, at least early in your career.

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Post by The Pantry on 2017-05-23, 21:29

DWags wrote:
The Pantry wrote:
Yeah, that figure is probably right.  R&B costed more than tuition.

MSU tuition:  Last number I can recall before graduating was $32.50 per credit hour

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Post by DWags on 2017-05-23, 21:52

tGreenWay wrote:
Tim Wakefield wrote:

I'm outta here soon asshole

As soon as I get sick of it I'm quitting on the spot. This caf has turned into a horrible place to work and at this point I'm just collecting a paycheck. They pay me $12/hr

Unsolicited advice: It may feel good to say fuck it and walk out, but try not to burn bridges. That's a job on your resume, at least early in your career.

Agree with this. As a former administrator to maybe a future one do you want some superintendent calling up and getting a guy you told to fuck off on the phone? Unless you don't list it. But even if you list it on your first couple jobs it could come back to haunt you. Best to take a deep breath and thank them and walk away. I know, that's hard sometimes

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-05-23, 21:55

Tim Wakefield wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Totally bringing my kids in there just to piss you guys off next time in town.

I'm outta here soon asshole

As soon as I get sick of it I'm quitting on the spot. This caf has turned into a horrible place to work and at this point I'm just collecting a paycheck. They pay me $12/hr

Stage a coup and takeover. Raise the prices and milk that place for profit. Retire.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-05-23, 21:58

Only job I ever got fired from was DTN. My roommate and I signed up to be the onsite Resident Managers at our apartment complex where there was no office. We did this so I could keep my 110 lb dog without getting busted. Well, we got busted anyone, and an eviction notice, and fired.

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Post by The Pantry on 2017-05-23, 22:23

Tim Wakefield wrote:Yup anyone can come in. You'd be shocked how many fuckin families come in here on holidays (Easter, Mother's Day, etc.). A college cafeteria. We hate the public

Like DWags said, unless you can get in free on Swill Day @ Brody, go grab a beer with your lunch/dinner right down the road. Speaking of, Friday from 3-8 will be Swill Day @ Brody. Free admission to all posters
3 to 8? WTF crazy hours are those? IIRC, the cafeteria opened for dinner at 4 and closed at 7.
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Post by DWags on 2017-05-23, 22:44

The Pantry wrote:
Tim Wakefield wrote:Yup anyone can come in. You'd be shocked how many fuckin families come in here on holidays (Easter, Mother's Day, etc.). A college cafeteria. We hate the public

Like DWags said, unless you can get in free on Swill Day @ Brody, go grab a beer with your lunch/dinner right down the road. Speaking of, Friday from 3-8 will be Swill Day @ Brody. Free admission to all posters
3 to 8? WTF crazy hours are those? IIRC, the cafeteria opened for dinner at 4 and closed at 7.

And we ate our Johnny Marzetti dried burgers and hot dogs and liked.

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Post by Tim Wakefield on 2017-05-23, 22:45

You're right, I'm gonna stick it out. Frustrating at times though. A certain manager and I butt heads pretty often

As far as our hours, we're open 7-11 for breakfast ($5.99), 11-2 for lunch ($9.99), 2-5 is still full price but only pizza, sandwiches, salad bar, and desserts are open. Dinner is 5-8, and after 8pm it's the same limited menu as 2-5pm, until midnight during the school year and until 10pm in the summer.

I work 9am til close during the summer for 3 days. 4 day weekends are nice for traveling. Got some sweet trips planned.

This Friday though, they're giving us overtime so I picked up a cashier shift from 3-8

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-05-23, 22:50

What kind of pizza do you serve?

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Post by Tim Wakefield on 2017-05-23, 22:51

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:What kind of pizza do you serve?
Cheese bread, pepperoni za, and a specialty which is usually something weird that a cook whipped up

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Post by DWags on 2017-05-23, 22:52

Tim Wakefield wrote:You're right, I'm gonna stick it out. Frustrating at times though. A certain manager and I butt heads pretty often

As far as our hours, we're open 7-11 for breakfast ($5.99), 11-2 for lunch ($9.99), 2-5 is still full price but only pizza, sandwiches, salad bar, and desserts are open. Dinner is 5-8, and after 8pm it's the same limited menu as 2-5pm, until midnight during the school year and until 10pm in the summer.

I work 9am til close during the summer for 3 days. 4 day weekends are nice for traveling. Got some sweet trips planned.

This Friday though, they're giving us overtime so I picked up a cashier shift from 3-8

So if I came in at 11:01 and ate breakfast could I stay in there read my phone do paperwork till 1:59 and eat lunch/dinner? Or do I pay the ten bucks every time I take my tray up?

Also, how many people hand you a ten and wait for the penny?


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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-05-23, 22:53

Tim Wakefield wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:What kind of pizza do you serve?
Cheese bread, pepperoni za, and a specialty which is usually something weird that a cook whipped up

No, I mean literally. Do they get frozen shit from Sysco? Do you have legit pizza ovens and the dough is just from Sysco?

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Post by Tim Wakefield on 2017-05-23, 22:53

Once you're in you're in. We have hobos come in at 10:55, pay breakfast price and set up shop all day long. It's strange. Most of our customers are locals I would say

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WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
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Cheese bread, pepperoni za, and a specialty which is usually something weird that a cook whipped up

No, I mean literally. Do they get frozen shit from Sysco? Do you have legit pizza ovens and the dough is just from Sysco?

Ah. I wouldn't recommend it, it's all shit. But we have dough that we buy and we have to put the sauce/cheese/toppings on those fuckers in the morning and then we just send em through the oven as needed

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Post by The Pantry on 2017-05-23, 23:09

DWags wrote:
The Pantry wrote:3 to 8? WTF crazy hours are those? IIRC, the cafeteria opened for dinner at 4 and closed at 7.

And we ate our Johnny Marzetti dried burgers and hot dogs and liked.
My absolute favorite were the square lamb patties with mashed potatoes and gravy. Once bit into a shotgun BB that probably helped kill the poor critter. Spit it out and kept eating.

Thoughts of the Wilson cafeteria square lamb patty dinner still make me salivate sometimes
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Post by Cameron on 2017-05-23, 23:52

Tim Wakefield wrote:
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No, I mean literally. Do they get frozen shit from Sysco? Do you have legit pizza ovens and the dough is just from Sysco?

Ah. I wouldn't recommend it, it's all shit. But we have dough that we buy and we have to put the sauce/cheese/toppings on those fuckers in the morning and then we just send em through the oven as needed

Dirty little secret: pretty much all food you get from any restaurant where you're not paying at least $20 per entree (and that's probably low) is "shit" by normal standards if you were to cook it for yourself in your own home. That's the only way food-service is profitable.
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