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Post by LooseGoose on Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:54 pm

4 hits in a row, time to get him.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:59 pm

Damn, Tigers ML + u8 pawlay was looking good. Time to watch a movie.

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Post by LooseGoose on Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:00 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Damn, Tigers ML + u8 pawlay was looking good. Time to watch a movie.

We were on opposite sides of the fence tonight.....

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:59 pm

I guess we both "win".

Wilson is a stud.

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Post by LooseGoose on Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:09 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I guess we both "win".

Wilson is a stud good trade bait.


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Post by Death Roe on Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:13 pm

Keep Fulmer and Wilson, dump everyone else.

Cubs want Fulmer but I'd ask for Bryant or Rizzo in return.

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Pea soup, much like clam chowder, needs to have that consistency first, that you can stand the spoon up in it, but the spoon soon tilts, that's the consistency you want.
Number two: Uh, pea soup on it's own can be a little bland. It wants, uh, a fairly aggressive peppering and salting.
Number three: Pea soup needs a fine dice of ham. Not bacon, not any other meat, not turkey. It needs a fine dice of ham.
Uh, number four: Uh, pea soup scorches easily. You don't wanna heat it on a high heat. You wanna heat it on medium low, just until it's warmed through.
Uh, number five: Pea soup is best made, uh, by hand, not out of a Campbell's can. And the key to pea soup, you want a ham bone, uh, for the stock you make, uh, to, to boil your peas.
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Post by steveschneider on Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:18 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I guess we both "win".

Wilson is a stud good trade bait.


FIFY

Kind of torn on Wilson. I've said many times trade everyone, but what is the ultimate goal of trading? IMO the main focus should be to improve the pitching staff with young arms. Not sure there's any point to trading away Wilson when the goal should be to acquire more arms like Wilson.

To turn the ship around Tigers are going to need 3 more starting pitchers and a vastly improved bullpen.
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Post by DWags on Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:24 pm

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LooseGoose wrote:


FIFY

Kind of torn on Wilson. I've said many times trade everyone, but what is the ultimate goal of trading? IMO the main focus should be to improve the pitching staff with young arms. Not sure there's any point to trading away Wilson when the goal should be to acquire more arms like Wilson.

To turn the ship around Tigers are going to need 3 more starting pitchers and a vastly improved bullpen.


I mean, the lions seem to have figured out the formula finally. Build from your lines out. Build a defense, then get the fancy parts.

I'm not the baseball guy, but it seems like you need to have pitching first. Then a solid defense anchored by two good middle infielders a good to great catcher and an all star centerfielder. Then, get the fancy parts. What have the tigers got either with them now or in the farm system that can start that core?

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Post by steveschneider on Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:35 pm

DWags wrote:
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Kind of torn on Wilson. I've said many times trade everyone, but what is the ultimate goal of trading? IMO the main focus should be to improve the pitching staff with young arms. Not sure there's any point to trading away Wilson when the goal should be to acquire more arms like Wilson.

To turn the ship around Tigers are going to need 3 more starting pitchers and a vastly improved bullpen.


I mean, the lions seem to have figured out the formula finally. Build from your lines out. Build a defense, then get the fancy parts.

I'm not the baseball guy, but it seems like you need to have pitching first. Then a solid defense anchored by two good middle infielders a good to great catcher and an all star centerfielder. Then, get the fancy parts. What have the tigers got either with them now or in the farm system that can start that core?

Going off the link above that Goose posted about the rebuild, the home grown talent we have had the past 11 years is pretty slim. Most of the best talent over the last 11 years has come to Detroit through trades and free agency.

You are correct, pitching is the most important part of the formula and that's why I question dumping a player like Wilson.
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Re: tOfficial 2017 Detroit Tigers Thread: We suck again (again - AUAlum whined)

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:43 pm

Lynnda Henning penned an article today in the news about the young talent in AA. There is some good arm talent there, both SP and bullpen.

You need to flip JW for more young talent. The Tigers essentially should be trying to flip every player outside of Fullmer, Norris and Castellanos. They aren't rebuilding on the fly. They want to be the Astros in 5 years.

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Post by LooseGoose on Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:02 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Lynnda Henning penned an article today in the news about the young talent in AA. There is some good arm talent there, both SP and bullpen.

You need to flip JW for more young talent. The Tigers essentially should be trying to flip every player outside of Fullmer, Norris and Castellanos. They aren't rebuilding on the fly. They want to be the Astros in 5 years.

While I agree in general I'd sub Boyd in for Casty. If someone offered me a decent return for him I'd move on.

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Post by steveschneider on Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:12 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Lynnda Henning penned an article today in the news about the young talent in AA. There is some good arm talent there, both SP and bullpen.

You need to flip JW for more young talent. The Tigers essentially should be trying to flip every player outside of Fullmer, Norris and Castellanos. They aren't rebuilding on the fly. They want to be the Astros in 5 years.

That makes sense. Yes, my initial thoughts were just trade and dump everyone that you can with exception to the two starting pitchers you mentioned. At the end of the year hand Brad his pink slip. Time to embrace the dawn of a new era.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:07 pm

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WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Lynnda Henning penned an article today in the news about the young talent in AA. There is some good arm talent there, both SP and bullpen.

You need to flip JW for more young talent. The Tigers essentially should be trying to flip every player outside of Fullmer, Norris and Castellanos. They aren't rebuilding on the fly. They want to be the Astros in 5 years.

While I agree in general I'd sub Boyd in for Casty. If someone offered me a decent return for him I'd move on.

Reason I say this, and it may not change your mind, but I don't think people realize how young Nick still is. He's 25. He's actually younger than Boyd. He is having a shitty year (a lot of it shitty luck) but he works his ass off and can rake. He is going to be a good MLB hitter for a long time.

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Post by LooseGoose on Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:27 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

While I agree in general I'd sub Boyd in for Casty. If someone offered me a decent return for him I'd move on.

Reason I say this, and it may not change your mind, but I don't think people realize how young Nick still is. He's 25. He's actually younger than Boyd. He is having a shitty year (a lot of it shitty luck) but he works his ass off and can rake. He is going to be a good MLB hitter for a long time.

I agree with the hitting, where do you play him? he doesn't seem to be improving at 3B.

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Post by steveschneider on Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:01 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

Reason I say this, and it may not change your mind, but I don't think people realize how young Nick still is. He's 25. He's actually younger than Boyd. He is having a shitty year (a lot of it shitty luck) but he works his ass off and can rake. He is going to be a good MLB hitter for a long time.

I agree with the hitting, where do you play him? he doesn't seem to be improving at 3B.

Put him in RF and start Romine at 3B. I bet Romine's batting avg would go up with more plate appearances as well.
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Re: tOfficial 2017 Detroit Tigers Thread: We suck again (again - AUAlum whined)

Post by aualum06 on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:18 pm

They are really split screening the derby? God espn sucks
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Post by Tim Wakefield on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:23 pm

en español en el ESPN 2

Anyone get odds on this thing? I forgot to check before it started

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:28 pm

#neverforget


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Post by aualum06 on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:33 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:#neverforget


Is that before or after he swung and missed?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:34 pm

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Is that before or after he swung and missed?

I'm not sure but it was very bad

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Post by aualum06 on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:35 pm

Sanchez just posted a big number on Stanton
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Post by The Pantry on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:36 pm

Sanchez looking real good so far
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Post by aualum06 on Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:43 pm

I wish we could rob Stanton from the Marlins like we did Miguel
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:02 pm

House money! I bet Sano and Judge. Both advance to finals. Hoping for Sano as he has longer odds.

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Post by aualum06 on Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:03 pm

Judge is going to be really good
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Post by LooseGoose on Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:13 am

No thanks...unless the return is absolutely mind bottling.

Report: Cubs interested in acquiring Michael Fulmer, not Justin Verlander


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Post by LooseGoose on Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:28 am

Good lord this could actually be real....

Tigers trade rumors: Is Michael Fulmer untouchable or on the table?

Would the Tigers even entertain the idea of trading him away?

The chances are remote, but not completely outlandish.

Here's the argument for shopping Fulmer, as laid out by Joel Sherman of the New York Post:

1. The Tigers won't be positioned for a championship for the next three years or so, a period in which Fulmer will be in his prime, racking up 600 innings on his arm.

2. The Tigers could ask for the moon because the market would not be limited to contenders. Even rebuilding teams like the Braves or Padres with a surplus of prospects might bid on someone like Fulmer. Sherman suggested the Tigers could ask for a Chris Sale-level return -- "two elite prospects and two very good ones."

Sherman emphasized that there's no evidence the Tigers actually plan to sell Fulmer, although longtime baseball reporter Peter Gammons says the Chicago Cubs are among the teams that have inquired about him.

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Post by Death Roe on Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:03 am

Cubs reportedly offered Schwarber for Fulmer.

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Pea soup, much like clam chowder, needs to have that consistency first, that you can stand the spoon up in it, but the spoon soon tilts, that's the consistency you want.
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Uh, number four: Uh, pea soup scorches easily. You don't wanna heat it on a high heat. You wanna heat it on medium low, just until it's warmed through.
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Post by Death Roe on Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:19 am

If that happens, Al Avila deserves to be fired.

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Pea soup, much like clam chowder, needs to have that consistency first, that you can stand the spoon up in it, but the spoon soon tilts, that's the consistency you want.
Number two: Uh, pea soup on it's own can be a little bland. It wants, uh, a fairly aggressive peppering and salting.
Number three: Pea soup needs a fine dice of ham. Not bacon, not any other meat, not turkey. It needs a fine dice of ham.
Uh, number four: Uh, pea soup scorches easily. You don't wanna heat it on a high heat. You wanna heat it on medium low, just until it's warmed through.
Uh, number five: Pea soup is best made, uh, by hand, not out of a Campbell's can. And the key to pea soup, you want a ham bone, uh, for the stock you make, uh, to, to boil your peas.
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Post by aualum06 on Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:09 am

You don't trade Fulmer for prospects. Cubs want to give up Bryant then maybe you talk.
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Post by LooseGoose on Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:03 am

Group of NYPost stories on changing baseball. Some interesting reads.

THE STATE OF BASEBALL

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Post by Floyd Robertson on Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:14 am

Deadline buyer's guide: Top hitters available

Not much is new according to JP, but it looks like Avila and Kinsler might be the best available at their positions, and JD isn't drawing as much interest at the Tigers might have thought. Iglesias is even mentioned as a SS that might be available.
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Post by aualum06 on Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:41 am

LooseGoose wrote:Group of NYPost stories on changing baseball. Some interesting reads.

THE STATE OF BASEBALL

They need to leave the game alone. Want to speed games up get rid of replay. It has been a disaster.
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Post by LooseGoose on Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:54 am

aualum06 wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Group of NYPost stories on changing baseball. Some interesting reads.

THE STATE OF BASEBALL

They need to leave the game alone. Want to speed games up get rid of replay. It has been a disaster.





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Post by steveschneider on Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:15 pm

aualum06 wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Group of NYPost stories on changing baseball. Some interesting reads.

THE STATE OF BASEBALL

Couldn't agree more. Leave the game alone. They've done enough harm.

They need to leave the game alone. Want to speed games up get rid of replay. It has been a disaster.
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Post by aualum06 on Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:04 pm

Cubs landed Quintana
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