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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-12-27, 10:48

Rocinante wrote:
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I think you’re not understanding why other people are saying “who gives a shit.” 

It’s because no one gives a shit. Not just here. Not the bin. In fact, the bin is the only reason I’m even aware of this harrowing tree story. It’s not like there are people out there running around talking about this shit. No one cares. So it’s either that people actually do read the article (your penchant for underestimating people is now famously noted) or just no one cares. He’s just trying to drum up some drama while ignoring the blatant lies he swallows every day about things that actually matter.

I saw it prior to seeing it here, Travis.  I do not follow many right wing news outlets, but if I noticed the biased headline, I guarantee they did.  Logic dictates that there are people on the fence about believing the "fake news" bullshit the president tweets.  This kind of thing is a perfect example of something that fuels his fire.  Regardless of how unimportant the actual story is, news outlets made the headline partisan.  They can't afford to do that.
two things- one- no I don’t really follow many right wing sources. Mostly liberal sources. And they don’t give a shit. That’s what I’m saying. If the goal of the headline was to get liberals in a tizzy about a tree then it didn’t really work since no one actually cares other than goose types who get all worked up about nothing on the reg.

Two- I flatly disagree with the boldest part whole heartedly. First I don’t even think “they made it partisan” is the right word for the harrowing tree story. Second I think the media’s constant insistence on trying to toe the line and not offend anyone by calling out the reality that’s in front of their face is a lot of what got us here in the first place.

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by Rocinante on 2017-12-27, 10:51

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
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I saw it prior to seeing it here, Travis.  I do not follow many right wing news outlets, but if I noticed the biased headline, I guarantee they did.  Logic dictates that there are people on the fence about believing the "fake news" bullshit the president tweets.  This kind of thing is a perfect example of something that fuels his fire.  Regardless of how unimportant the actual story is, news outlets made the headline partisan.  They can't afford to do that.
two things- one- no I don’t really follow many right wing sources. Mostly liberal sources. And they don’t give a shit. That’s what I’m saying. If the goal of the headline was to get liberals in a tizzy about a tree then it didn’t really work since no one actually cares other than goose types who get all worked up about nothing on the reg.

Two- I flatly disagree with the boldest part whole heartedly. First I don’t even think “they made it partisan” is the right word for the harrowing tree story. Second I think the media’s constant insistence on trying to toe the line and not offend anyone by calling out the reality that’s in front of their face is a lot of what got us here in the first place.

Like the first lady coldly tearing down a historic tree on the White House lawn? Come on man.

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-12-27, 10:54

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two things- one- no I don’t really follow many right wing sources. Mostly liberal sources. And they don’t give a shit. That’s what I’m saying. If the goal of the headline was to get liberals in a tizzy about a tree then it didn’t really work since no one actually cares other than goose types who get all worked up about nothing on the reg.

Two- I flatly disagree with the boldest part whole heartedly. First I don’t even think “they made it partisan” is the right word for the harrowing tree story. Second I think the media’s constant insistence on trying to toe the line and not offend anyone by calling out the reality that’s in front of their face is a lot of what got us here in the first place.

Like the first lady coldly tearing down a historic tree on the White House lawn?  Come on man.
In the second paragraph I’m not specifically talking about the terrible tree story. Sorry, I meant to make that clearer

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Post by Rocinante on 2017-12-27, 11:03

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Like the first lady coldly tearing down a historic tree on the White House lawn?  Come on man.
In the second paragraph I’m not specifically talking about the terrible tree story. Sorry, I meant to make that clearer

I completely agree, the media obsession with Trump was one of the factors that pushed him over the edge to victory. They still haven't figured out how to focus on the important stories like his campaign's ties to Russia or his blatant attempts to further enrich the 1% and ignore his constant stream of headline grabbing distractions. But my point is that CNN / The Hill / HuffPo / MSN need to stop giving him fuel. NYT and WaPo for the most part are doing great work. They do some serious vetting before running with anything. Any other news reporting agency needs to do the same. Or we need to come up with another category of news-ertainment or something so that people know not to lump it with legitimate news.

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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-12-27, 14:11

The right wing "news" sites in my google news feed were all trumpeting Jenna Fischer's incorrect tweet about the teacher personal expense deduction. Man, it was everywhere. And the irony was thick enough to cut. "She has so many followers, she shouldn't be putting out false information."
But, just like Goose's mindset here, this one actress criticizing the GOP plan -- incorrectly, in this case -- and the Right jumps all over it as if the woman from The Office suddenly represents all Dems and Libs.
Ridiculous.

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Post by Cameron on 2017-12-27, 15:18

tGreenWay wrote:Did Melly T order the tree removed or not?
She did.
Not partial truth. Truthful.

It wasn't a lie, but there was more to the story than what was contained in the headline, so I think "partial truth" is an entirely fair description. It was a stupid headline about a complete non-story. It shouldn't exist for any number of reasons.

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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-12-27, 15:44

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tGreenWay wrote:Did Melly T order the tree removed or not?
She did.
Not partial truth. Truthful.

It wasn't a lie, but there was more to the story than what was contained in the headline, so I think "partial truth" is an entirely fair description. It was a stupid headline about a complete non-story. It shouldn't exist for any number of reasons.

Okay, I'll drop the charade, but don't tell Goose. I agree with what you and Roc have said. The headline is incredibly misleading. To paraphrase a line in the journo classic Absence of Malice: That headline is factually correct, but it's not the truth.
Damnit, it was more fun playing on Goose's conspiracy fears.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-12-27, 15:51

This brings up a question. How much leeway is given to the first family on what they can do to the outside of the White House? I know they get to redecorate the inside to a certain point. What if Trump wants to put a bunch of statues of himself backdooring the statue of liberty in the rose garden. Can he do that?
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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by Rocinante on 2017-12-27, 16:02

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:This brings up a question. How much leeway is given to the first family on what they can do to the outside of the White House? I know they get to redecorate the inside to a certain point. What if Trump wants to put a bunch of statues of himself backdooring the statue of liberty in the rose garden. Can he do that?

God I hope so. It will expose our system as the sham that it is.

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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-12-27, 18:59

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:This brings up a question. How much leeway is given to the first family on what they can do to the outside of the White House? I know they get to redecorate the inside to a certain point. What if Trump wants to put a bunch of statues of himself backdooring the statue of liberty in the rose garden. Can he do that?

One would hope he'd erect a statue of Goose first as a representation of his voting base.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-12-28, 17:51


Chuck Ross@ChuckRossDC

23: The number of times over the past day that CNN has mentioned the white box truck that obscured view of Trump golfing

0: For comparison, the number of times CNN has mentioned that Politico report on Obama admin's quashing of Hezbollah investigation. http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/28/cnn-whines-about-truck-blocking-golf-course-video/

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Post by Turtleneck on 2017-12-28, 20:15

Loose, what do you think about the media not reporting on the signing statement Trump issued when he recently signed the National Defense Authorization Act of 2018?

Through his signing statement, he contested several sections of the Act that address the Russia threat, and also called into question the legitimacy of the White House Office of Special Counsel.

While the reasons offered up seem legitimate, if the media was out to get Trump, they could be tearing him apart over this.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-12-31, 20:00

Not fake, just resolved months ago....

NBC News has produced yet another establishmetn press story to cap off a year of media sloppiness unlike any other.

On Friday, the network breathlessly tweeted out a copy of a search warrant "made public today," directed at "an e-mail address associated with Trump surrogate and former Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr."

That the warrant itself was dated March 7 apparently didn't curb NBC's enthusiasm.

Here's NBC's opening tweet (full search warrant is at the link):


NBC sent out three additional tweets describing the supposedly breaking matter:



There was only one problem. This potential criminal matter was resolved almost eight months ago, and no civil-rights charges were filed against Clarke. Reason.com's C.J. Ciaramella was able to figure that out barely a half-hour after NBC's original tweet, and well before the network's third and fourth tweets (HT Twitchy):

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Post by Turtleneck on 2017-12-31, 20:08

Bro, you just quoted two misleading tweets from a journalist in another thread.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-12-31, 20:37

Solid rebuttal.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2018-01-01, 11:55

Quick reminder that the mainstream media is responsible for stupid Americans electing a racist, bigoted sexual predator.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2018-01-01, 12:57

I use a very simple strategy to find fake news and Russian bots hate me for it. I just assume anything Goose posts is fake. Been working pretty well for me so far.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-12, 15:36

At least she corrected her bullshit.



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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2018-01-12, 15:38

Jesus Christ Jitterbug, could you please shrink the size of these pics?
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Post by GRR Spartan on 2018-01-13, 09:33

It's common tactics ce among small government conservatives who defend the shithole pussy grabber.

Big fonts to push other comments off the page.

Hopefully all the shit holers in Florida get to the polls and keep Rick Scott out of the US Senate
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-03-02, 17:54

LOL, stupid asses.

Oops! Facebook, Snopes Come Down Hard On Christian Satire Site

ATLANTA, GA—In order to aid the news station in preparing stories for consumption, popular news media organization CNN purchased an industrial-sized washing machine to help its journalists and news anchors spin the news before publication.

The custom-made device allows CNN reporters to load just the facts of a given issue, turn a dial to “spin cycle,” and within five minutes, receive a nearly unrecognizable version of the story that’s been spun to fit with the news station’s agenda.

The image above is the one that went along with the story. But, according to fact-checking site Snopes, enough people took this satirical metaphor seriously that a fact-check was deemed necessary. “Did CNN Purchase an Industrial-Sized Washing Machine to Spin News?” Well, no, because it was satire! But Snopes, knowing it was satire, still rated it “False” as if it were an actual factual claim.


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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2018-03-02, 18:12

LooseGoose wrote:LOL, stupid asses.

Oops! Facebook, Snopes Come Down Hard On Christian Satire Site

ATLANTA, GA—In order to aid the news station in preparing stories for consumption, popular news media organization CNN purchased an industrial-sized washing machine to help its journalists and news anchors spin the news before publication.

The custom-made device allows CNN reporters to load just the facts of a given issue, turn a dial to “spin cycle,” and within five minutes, receive a nearly unrecognizable version of the story that’s been spun to fit with the news station’s agenda.

The image above is the one that went along with the story. But, according to fact-checking site Snopes, enough people took this satirical metaphor seriously that a fact-check was deemed necessary. “Did CNN Purchase an Industrial-Sized Washing Machine to Spin News?” Well, no, because it was satire! But Snopes, knowing it was satire, still rated it “False” as if it were an actual factual claim.

Goose rockin' a mainstream media link while mocking the mainstream media.

You do you, Goose. [cheers]
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-04-20, 15:06

Bob? You always seem to question the use of mainstream media yet you get your information there......

The Times Best-Seller List: Another Reason Americans Don’t Trust the Media

As a writer (who, for the record, had a previous book on that list), I have long known it isn’t a best-seller list, and I don’t pay attention to it. But I paid attention last week to see whether my recently published book, which opened up on Amazon as the second-best-selling book in America, was on the list. It wasn’t.

The book, The Rational Bible: Exodus, the first volume of a five-volume commentary on the first five books of the Bible (the Torah), was No. 2 in nonfiction on the Wall Street Journal best-seller list; No. 2 on the Publishers Weekly nonfiction best-seller list; No. 1 on Ingram, the largest book wholesaler in the country; and, according to Nielsen BookScan, the organization that tracks 75 to 85 percent of book sales, No. 2 in hardcover nonfiction. In fact, according to BookScan, it outsold 14 of the 15 books on the New York Times hardcover nonfiction best-seller list. But again, it is not even listed on the New York Times best-seller list.

New York Times spokesman Jordan Cohen told the Associated Press: “Our goal is that the lists reflect authentic best-sellers. The political views of authors have no bearing on our rankings, and the notion that we would manipulate the lists to exclude books for political reasons is simply ludicrous.”

According to the New York Times, it is “simply ludicrous” to question why a conservative book and a religious book, which are the No. 1 and No. 2 books, respectively, on every best-seller list other than that of the New York Times, do not even appear on the Times list.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2018-04-20, 15:10

LooseGoose wrote:Bob? You always seem to question the use of mainstream media yet you get your information there......

The Times Best-Seller List: Another Reason Americans Don’t Trust the Media

As a writer (who, for the record, had a previous book on that list), I have long known it isn’t a best-seller list, and I don’t pay attention to it. But I paid attention last week to see whether my recently published book, which opened up on Amazon as the second-best-selling book in America, was on the list. It wasn’t.

The book, The Rational Bible: Exodus, the first volume of a five-volume commentary on the first five books of the Bible (the Torah), was No. 2 in nonfiction on the Wall Street Journal best-seller list; No. 2 on the Publishers Weekly nonfiction best-seller list; No. 1 on Ingram, the largest book wholesaler in the country; and, according to Nielsen BookScan, the organization that tracks 75 to 85 percent of book sales, No. 2 in hardcover nonfiction. In fact, according to BookScan, it outsold 14 of the 15 books on the New York Times hardcover nonfiction best-seller list. But again, it is not even listed on the New York Times best-seller list.

New York Times spokesman Jordan Cohen told the Associated Press: “Our goal is that the lists reflect authentic best-sellers. The political views of authors have no bearing on our rankings, and the notion that we would manipulate the lists to exclude books for political reasons is simply ludicrous.”

According to the New York Times, it is “simply ludicrous” to question why a conservative book and a religious book, which are the No. 1 and No. 2 books, respectively, on every best-seller list other than that of the New York Times, do not even appear on the Times list.
so you're posting a mainstream media link complaining about the mainstream media??



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Post by NigelUno on 2018-04-20, 15:12

LooseGoose wrote:Bob? You always seem to question the use of mainstream media yet you get your information there......

The Times Best-Seller List: Another Reason Americans Don’t Trust the Media

As a writer (who, for the record, had a previous book on that list), I have long known it isn’t a best-seller list, and I don’t pay attention to it. But I paid attention last week to see whether my recently published book, which opened up on Amazon as the second-best-selling book in America, was on the list. It wasn’t.

The book, The Rational Bible: Exodus, the first volume of a five-volume commentary on the first five books of the Bible (the Torah), was No. 2 in nonfiction on the Wall Street Journal best-seller list; No. 2 on the Publishers Weekly nonfiction best-seller list; No. 1 on Ingram, the largest book wholesaler in the country; and, according to Nielsen BookScan, the organization that tracks 75 to 85 percent of book sales, No. 2 in hardcover nonfiction. In fact, according to BookScan, it outsold 14 of the 15 books on the New York Times hardcover nonfiction best-seller list. But again, it is not even listed on the New York Times best-seller list.

New York Times spokesman Jordan Cohen told the Associated Press: “Our goal is that the lists reflect authentic best-sellers. The political views of authors have no bearing on our rankings, and the notion that we would manipulate the lists to exclude books for political reasons is simply ludicrous.”

According to the New York Times, it is “simply ludicrous” to question why a conservative book and a religious book, which are the No. 1 and No. 2 books, respectively, on every best-seller list other than that of the New York Times, do not even appear on the Times list.

Is it written by John Barron?

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Post by Cameron on 2018-04-20, 18:08

LooseGoose wrote:Bob?  You always seem to question the use of mainstream media yet you get your information there......

The Times Best-Seller List: Another Reason Americans Don’t Trust the Media

As a writer (who, for the record, had a previous book on that list), I have long known it isn’t a best-seller list, and I don’t pay attention to it. But I paid attention last week to see whether my recently published book, which opened up on Amazon as the second-best-selling book in America, was on the list. It wasn’t.

The book, The Rational Bible: Exodus, the first volume of a five-volume commentary on the first five books of the Bible (the Torah), was No. 2 in nonfiction on the Wall Street Journal best-seller list; No. 2 on the Publishers Weekly nonfiction best-seller list; No. 1 on Ingram, the largest book wholesaler in the country; and, according to Nielsen BookScan, the organization that tracks 75 to 85 percent of book sales, No. 2 in hardcover nonfiction. In fact, according to BookScan, it outsold 14 of the 15 books on the New York Times hardcover nonfiction best-seller list. But again, it is not even listed on the New York Times best-seller list.

New York Times spokesman Jordan Cohen told the Associated Press: “Our goal is that the lists reflect authentic best-sellers. The political views of authors have no bearing on our rankings, and the notion that we would manipulate the lists to exclude books for political reasons is simply ludicrous.”

According to the New York Times, it is “simply ludicrous” to question why a conservative book and a religious book, which are the No. 1 and No. 2 books, respectively, on every best-seller list other than that of the New York Times, do not even appear on the Times list.
Why the fuck is a volume on Exodus the first volume about the first five books of the bible? Why go out of order?

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Post by GRR Spartan on 2018-04-20, 22:46

Another case of the guy calling many things "Fake News" caught lying....again

From the link:

"The posting corroborates the account of Rob Goldstone, Emin Agalarov’s British publicist, who in “Russian Roulette” describes the Nov. 8 lunch in great detail as well as Trump’s attendance at a birthday party for Aras Agalarov later that night. According to Goldstone, Trump stayed at the party until 1:30 a.m. before returning to his hotel room at the Ritz-Carlton.

The next day, Nov. 9, Trump is still in Moscow, tweeting about the great time he was having in Moscow and how he was looking forward to the Miss Universe pageant that night. “I was just given a great tour of Moscow — fantastic, hard working people. CITY IS REALLY ENERGIZED! The World will be watching tonight!” Trump wrote in a tweet posted at 6:21 a.m. on Nov. 9.

Keith Schiller, Trump’s longtime security chief, who accompanied him on the trip, corroborated that Trump spent the evening in the city at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel when he testified behind closed doors before the House Intelligence Committee. As recounted by NBC News, the New York Times and other news organizations, Schiller told the panel that on the day they arrived he was approached by an unidentified Russian who offered to send five prostitutes to his hotel room that evening — an offer that Schiller said he turned down.

“That night, two sources said, Schiller said he discussed the conversation with Trump as Trump was walking back to his hotel room, and Schiller said the two men laughed about it as Trump went to bed alone,” according to the NBC News account of Schiller’s testimony. “Schiller testified that he stood outside Trump’s hotel room for a time and then went to bed.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-told-comey-never-slept-moscow-185535745.html

So remind me who needs to apologize for lying?
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Post by tGreenWay Yesterday at 18:09

Will Fox “News” and other sites on the Right apologize to Jim Acosta and CNN for lying to its audiences about a Jim Acosta quote that he never said? Highly doubtful.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/25/media/fox-news-twists-jim-acosta-quote/index.html

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

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