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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-12-27, 10:48

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I think you’re not understanding why other people are saying “who gives a shit.” 

It’s because no one gives a shit. Not just here. Not the bin. In fact, the bin is the only reason I’m even aware of this harrowing tree story. It’s not like there are people out there running around talking about this shit. No one cares. So it’s either that people actually do read the article (your penchant for underestimating people is now famously noted) or just no one cares. He’s just trying to drum up some drama while ignoring the blatant lies he swallows every day about things that actually matter.

I saw it prior to seeing it here, Travis.  I do not follow many right wing news outlets, but if I noticed the biased headline, I guarantee they did.  Logic dictates that there are people on the fence about believing the "fake news" bullshit the president tweets.  This kind of thing is a perfect example of something that fuels his fire.  Regardless of how unimportant the actual story is, news outlets made the headline partisan.  They can't afford to do that.
two things- one- no I don’t really follow many right wing sources. Mostly liberal sources. And they don’t give a shit. That’s what I’m saying. If the goal of the headline was to get liberals in a tizzy about a tree then it didn’t really work since no one actually cares other than goose types who get all worked up about nothing on the reg.

Two- I flatly disagree with the boldest part whole heartedly. First I don’t even think “they made it partisan” is the right word for the harrowing tree story. Second I think the media’s constant insistence on trying to toe the line and not offend anyone by calling out the reality that’s in front of their face is a lot of what got us here in the first place.

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by Rocinante on 2017-12-27, 10:51

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I saw it prior to seeing it here, Travis.  I do not follow many right wing news outlets, but if I noticed the biased headline, I guarantee they did.  Logic dictates that there are people on the fence about believing the "fake news" bullshit the president tweets.  This kind of thing is a perfect example of something that fuels his fire.  Regardless of how unimportant the actual story is, news outlets made the headline partisan.  They can't afford to do that.
two things- one- no I don’t really follow many right wing sources. Mostly liberal sources. And they don’t give a shit. That’s what I’m saying. If the goal of the headline was to get liberals in a tizzy about a tree then it didn’t really work since no one actually cares other than goose types who get all worked up about nothing on the reg.

Two- I flatly disagree with the boldest part whole heartedly. First I don’t even think “they made it partisan” is the right word for the harrowing tree story. Second I think the media’s constant insistence on trying to toe the line and not offend anyone by calling out the reality that’s in front of their face is a lot of what got us here in the first place.

Like the first lady coldly tearing down a historic tree on the White House lawn? Come on man.

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-12-27, 10:54

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two things- one- no I don’t really follow many right wing sources. Mostly liberal sources. And they don’t give a shit. That’s what I’m saying. If the goal of the headline was to get liberals in a tizzy about a tree then it didn’t really work since no one actually cares other than goose types who get all worked up about nothing on the reg.

Two- I flatly disagree with the boldest part whole heartedly. First I don’t even think “they made it partisan” is the right word for the harrowing tree story. Second I think the media’s constant insistence on trying to toe the line and not offend anyone by calling out the reality that’s in front of their face is a lot of what got us here in the first place.

Like the first lady coldly tearing down a historic tree on the White House lawn?  Come on man.
In the second paragraph I’m not specifically talking about the terrible tree story. Sorry, I meant to make that clearer

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by Rocinante on 2017-12-27, 11:03

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
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Like the first lady coldly tearing down a historic tree on the White House lawn?  Come on man.
In the second paragraph I’m not specifically talking about the terrible tree story. Sorry, I meant to make that clearer

I completely agree, the media obsession with Trump was one of the factors that pushed him over the edge to victory. They still haven't figured out how to focus on the important stories like his campaign's ties to Russia or his blatant attempts to further enrich the 1% and ignore his constant stream of headline grabbing distractions. But my point is that CNN / The Hill / HuffPo / MSN need to stop giving him fuel. NYT and WaPo for the most part are doing great work. They do some serious vetting before running with anything. Any other news reporting agency needs to do the same. Or we need to come up with another category of news-ertainment or something so that people know not to lump it with legitimate news.

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-12-27, 14:11

The right wing "news" sites in my google news feed were all trumpeting Jenna Fischer's incorrect tweet about the teacher personal expense deduction. Man, it was everywhere. And the irony was thick enough to cut. "She has so many followers, she shouldn't be putting out false information."
But, just like Goose's mindset here, this one actress criticizing the GOP plan -- incorrectly, in this case -- and the Right jumps all over it as if the woman from The Office suddenly represents all Dems and Libs.
Ridiculous.

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Post by Cameron on 2017-12-27, 15:18

tGreenWay wrote:Did Melly T order the tree removed or not?
She did.
Not partial truth. Truthful.

It wasn't a lie, but there was more to the story than what was contained in the headline, so I think "partial truth" is an entirely fair description. It was a stupid headline about a complete non-story. It shouldn't exist for any number of reasons.

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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-12-27, 15:44

Cameron wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Did Melly T order the tree removed or not?
She did.
Not partial truth. Truthful.

It wasn't a lie, but there was more to the story than what was contained in the headline, so I think "partial truth" is an entirely fair description. It was a stupid headline about a complete non-story. It shouldn't exist for any number of reasons.

Okay, I'll drop the charade, but don't tell Goose. I agree with what you and Roc have said. The headline is incredibly misleading. To paraphrase a line in the journo classic Absence of Malice: That headline is factually correct, but it's not the truth.
Damnit, it was more fun playing on Goose's conspiracy fears.

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-12-27, 15:51

This brings up a question. How much leeway is given to the first family on what they can do to the outside of the White House? I know they get to redecorate the inside to a certain point. What if Trump wants to put a bunch of statues of himself backdooring the statue of liberty in the rose garden. Can he do that?
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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by Rocinante on 2017-12-27, 16:02

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:This brings up a question. How much leeway is given to the first family on what they can do to the outside of the White House? I know they get to redecorate the inside to a certain point. What if Trump wants to put a bunch of statues of himself backdooring the statue of liberty in the rose garden. Can he do that?

God I hope so. It will expose our system as the sham that it is.

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by tGreenWay on 2017-12-27, 18:59

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:This brings up a question. How much leeway is given to the first family on what they can do to the outside of the White House? I know they get to redecorate the inside to a certain point. What if Trump wants to put a bunch of statues of himself backdooring the statue of liberty in the rose garden. Can he do that?

One would hope he'd erect a statue of Goose first as a representation of his voting base.

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by LooseGoose on 2017-12-28, 17:51


Chuck Ross@ChuckRossDC

23: The number of times over the past day that CNN has mentioned the white box truck that obscured view of Trump golfing

0: For comparison, the number of times CNN has mentioned that Politico report on Obama admin's quashing of Hezbollah investigation. http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/28/cnn-whines-about-truck-blocking-golf-course-video/

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by Turtleneck on 2017-12-28, 20:15

Loose, what do you think about the media not reporting on the signing statement Trump issued when he recently signed the National Defense Authorization Act of 2018?

Through his signing statement, he contested several sections of the Act that address the Russia threat, and also called into question the legitimacy of the White House Office of Special Counsel.

While the reasons offered up seem legitimate, if the media was out to get Trump, they could be tearing him apart over this.

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by LooseGoose on 2017-12-31, 20:00

Not fake, just resolved months ago....

NBC News has produced yet another establishmetn press story to cap off a year of media sloppiness unlike any other.

On Friday, the network breathlessly tweeted out a copy of a search warrant "made public today," directed at "an e-mail address associated with Trump surrogate and former Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr."

That the warrant itself was dated March 7 apparently didn't curb NBC's enthusiasm.

Here's NBC's opening tweet (full search warrant is at the link):


NBC sent out three additional tweets describing the supposedly breaking matter:



There was only one problem. This potential criminal matter was resolved almost eight months ago, and no civil-rights charges were filed against Clarke. Reason.com's C.J. Ciaramella was able to figure that out barely a half-hour after NBC's original tweet, and well before the network's third and fourth tweets (HT Twitchy):

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by Turtleneck on 2017-12-31, 20:08

Bro, you just quoted two misleading tweets from a journalist in another thread.

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by LooseGoose on 2017-12-31, 20:37

Solid rebuttal.

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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2018-01-01, 11:55

Quick reminder that the mainstream media is responsible for stupid Americans electing a racist, bigoted sexual predator.
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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2018-01-01, 12:57

I use a very simple strategy to find fake news and Russian bots hate me for it. I just assume anything Goose posts is fake. Been working pretty well for me so far.
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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-12, 15:36

At least she corrected her bullshit.



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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2018-01-12, 15:38

Jesus Christ Jitterbug, could you please shrink the size of these pics?
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Re: How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

Post by GRR Spartan on 2018-01-13, 09:33

It's common tactics ce among small government conservatives who defend the shithole pussy grabber.

Big fonts to push other comments off the page.

Hopefully all the shit holers in Florida get to the polls and keep Rick Scott out of the US Senate
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