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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2017-06-15, 13:15

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Frank Ricard on 2017-06-15, 18:31

Ryan Brehm, MSU alum, -1 after 9, tied for 26th.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Dr. Strangelove on 2017-06-15, 21:29

Doesn't feel like a US Open.

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Post by Frank Ricard on 2017-06-15, 23:30

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Doesn't feel like a US Open.

I think the USGA was very cautious in the setup today to see what happens since it's a new track. Look for them to turn off the water and it'll be interesting if they decide to make these guys play an 8,000 yd track.

One hole (#5) played under par even though it was a 500 yd+ par 4. Some guys were still hitting as little as a wedge into it. The average drive for all players was 304 yards, so a 500 yd par 4 is something like a drive, 6-iron for the average player on a 500 yd hole. You'll have to start having 540 yd par 4's to really test the long iron shots of even the average player.

Someone, I don't remember who, played hit an iron for their 2nd shot at the 600 yd par 5 18th.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by duffy munn on 2017-06-16, 06:49

Frank Ricard wrote:
Dr. Strangelove wrote:Doesn't feel like a US Open.

I think the USGA was very cautious in the setup today to see what happens since it's a new track.  Look for them to turn off the water and it'll be interesting if they decide to make these guys play an 8,000 yd track.

One hole (#5) played under par even though it was a 500 yd+ par 4.  Some guys were still hitting as little as a wedge into it.  The average drive for all players was 304 yards, so a 500 yd par 4 is something like a drive, 6-iron for the average player on a 500 yd hole.  You'll have to start having 540 yd par 4's to really test the long iron shots of even the average player.

Someone, I don't remember who, played hit an iron for their 2nd shot at the 600 yd par 5 18th.
It's time to dial back the golf ball.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-06-16, 07:57

by "open" does that mean anyone can play?

'cause I don't have anything going on this weekend..
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Post by InTenSity on 2017-06-16, 08:48

Robert J Sakimano wrote:by "open" does that mean anyone can play?

'cause I don't have anything going on this weekend..
It sort of works like that. You can qualify to play, and anyone has a chance to do so.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-06-16, 09:03

InTenSity wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:by "open" does that mean anyone can play?

'cause I don't have anything going on this weekend..
It sort of works like that. You can qualify to play, and anyone has a chance to do so.
sweet, man..

now I just need some clubs.. scratch

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Post by InTenSity on 2017-06-16, 09:13

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
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It sort of works like that. You can qualify to play, and anyone has a chance to do so.
sweet, man..

now I just need some clubs..   scratch

I have a spare set for when you visit in FL.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2017-06-16, 09:19

InTenSity wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
sweet, man..

now I just need some clubs..   scratch

I have a spare set for when you visit in FL.
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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-16, 17:10

I'm watching a little golf right now and I guess I don't get what you guys are complaining about. Okay so the leaders are at -9. Maybe a little low. But why is that a problem? Errbody playing the same course.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Stoops21 on 2017-06-16, 17:42

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I'm watching a little golf right now and I guess I don't get what you guys are complaining about. Okay so the leaders are at -9. Maybe a little low. But why is that a problem? Errbody playing the same course.

I love golf where they're tearing shit up or suffering. Winged foot several years ago was fun to watch as the winner was at about +5. You'll all get a taste of insanely easy golf and frustrating to watch golf.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by kingstonlake on 2017-06-16, 17:45

Frank Ricard wrote:
Dr. Strangelove wrote:Doesn't feel like a US Open.

I think the USGA was very cautious in the setup today to see what happens since it's a new track. Look for them to turn off the water and it'll be interesting if they decide to make these guys play an 8,000 yd track.

One hole (#5) played under par even though it was a 500 yd+ par 4. Some guys were still hitting as little as a wedge into it. The average drive for all players was 304 yards, so a 500 yd par 4 is something like a drive, 6-iron for the average player on a 500 yd hole. You'll have to start having 540 yd par 4's to really test the long iron shots of even the average player.

Someone, I don't remember who, played hit an iron for their 2nd shot at the 600 yd par 5 18th.

Tour players are hitting 5 irons 250 yards. When I caddied in the Buick open very few pros we're reaching #16 in two shots. Maybe 5-10 in the field could. And that was a 600yd par 5. Back then a 280-290 average for your driver was considered a big hitter. It's nothing now, in fact it bottom level. Nicklaus has said for years the ball needs to be decompressed. He's right. Should never be a need to have an 8000 yard course. They're mutilating beautiful old courses​ to keep up with technology. It's stupid.
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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-16, 17:53

kingstonlake wrote:
Frank Ricard wrote:

I think the USGA was very cautious in the setup today to see what happens since it's a new track. Look for them to turn off the water and it'll be interesting if they decide to make these guys play an 8,000 yd track.

One hole (#5) played under par even though it was a 500 yd+ par 4. Some guys were still hitting as little as a wedge into it. The average drive for all players was 304 yards, so a 500 yd par 4 is something like a drive, 6-iron for the average player on a 500 yd hole. You'll have to start having 540 yd par 4's to really test the long iron shots of even the average player.

Someone, I don't remember who, played hit an iron for their 2nd shot at the 600 yd par 5 18th.

Tour players are hitting 5 irons 250 yards. When I caddied in the Buick open very few pros we're reaching #16 in two shots. Maybe 5-10 in the field could. And that was a 600yd par 5. Back then a 280-290 average for your driver was considered a big hitter. It's nothing now, in fact it bottom level. Nicklaus has said for years the ball needs to be decompressed. He's right. Should never be a need to have an 8000 yard course. They're mutilating beautiful old courses​ to keep up with technology. It's stupid.

So then leave it alone and call it a par 4? Or a par 2? Whatever. I guess I don't care that much what the score is like stoops. It doesn't really matter, it's still one guy playing against the other guys on the same course.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by duffy munn on 2017-06-16, 17:59

kingstonlake wrote:
Frank Ricard wrote:

I think the USGA was very cautious in the setup today to see what happens since it's a new track.  Look for them to turn off the water and it'll be interesting if they decide to make these guys play an 8,000 yd track.

One hole (#5) played under par even though it was a 500 yd+ par 4.  Some guys were still hitting as little as a wedge into it.  The average drive for all players was 304 yards, so a 500 yd par 4 is something like a drive, 6-iron for the average player on a 500 yd hole.  You'll have to start having 540 yd par 4's to really test the long iron shots of even the average player.

Someone, I don't remember who, played hit an iron for their 2nd shot at the 600 yd par 5 18th.

Tour players are hitting 5 irons 250 yards. When I caddied in the Buick open very few pros we're reaching #16 in two shots. Maybe 5-10 in the field could. And that was a 600yd par 5. Back then a 280-290 average for your driver was considered a big hitter. It's nothing now, in fact it bottom level. Nicklaus has said for years the ball needs to be decompressed. He's right. Should never be a need to have an 8000 yard course. They're mutilating beautiful old courses​ to keep up with technology.  It's stupid.
Today Kim hit 6 iron into a 249 par 3 over the green.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by kingstonlake on 2017-06-16, 18:00

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Tour players are hitting 5 irons 250 yards. When I caddied in the Buick open very few pros we're reaching #16 in two shots. Maybe 5-10 in the field could. And that was a 600yd par 5. Back then a 280-290 average for your driver was considered a big hitter. It's nothing now, in fact it bottom level. Nicklaus has said for years the ball needs to be decompressed. He's right. Should never be a need to have an 8000 yard course. They're mutilating beautiful old courses​ to keep up with technology. It's stupid.

So then leave it alone and call it a par 4? Or a par 2? Whatever. I guess I don't care that much what the score is like stoops. It doesn't really matter, it's still one guy playing against the other guys on the same course.

I agree and they do that about 36 weeks of the year. They're called regular tour events. I want to see a struggle to make par. A test of the elites skills. It's called a major for a reason.
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Post by duffy munn on 2017-06-16, 18:00

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Tour players are hitting 5 irons 250 yards. When I caddied in the Buick open very few pros we're reaching #16 in two shots. Maybe 5-10 in the field could. And that was a 600yd par 5. Back then a 280-290 average for your driver was considered a big hitter. It's nothing now, in fact it bottom level. Nicklaus has said for years the ball needs to be decompressed. He's right. Should never be a need to have an 8000 yard course. They're mutilating beautiful old courses​ to keep up with technology.  It's stupid.

So then leave it alone and call it a par 4? Or a par 2? Whatever. I guess I don't care that much what the score is like stoops. It doesn't really matter, it's still one guy playing against the other guys on the same course.
Scale down the ball and the equipment for the pros.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Floyd Robertson on 2017-06-16, 21:08

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Death Roe on 2017-06-16, 21:16

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-16, 21:30

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So then leave it alone and call it a par 4? Or a par 2? Whatever. I guess I don't care that much what the score is like stoops. It doesn't really matter, it's still one guy playing against the other guys on the same course.

I agree and they do that about 36 weeks of the year. They're called regular tour events. I want to see a struggle to make par. A test of the elites skills. It's called a major for a reason.

Then just make it a par 2. That'll satisfy your hunger for worse scores.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by kingstonlake on 2017-06-17, 03:25

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

I agree and they do that about 36 weeks of the year. They're called regular tour events. I want to see a struggle to make par. A test of the elites skills. It's called a major for a reason.

Then just make it a par 2. That'll satisfy your hunger for worse scores.
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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-17, 07:48

kingstonlake wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Then just make it a par 2. That'll satisfy your hunger for worse scores.
Eh. I get your point I'm mostly just mocking it since I think it's semantics.

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Frank Ricard on 2017-06-17, 22:45

MSU alum Ryan Brehm +1.

I'm convinced that they can't make these courses hard enough. This was supposed to be a bombers course, yet someone with relatively modest length is leading it. But even the short hitters have the 300 yd drive in their bag somewhere. There's no such thing as a short hitter at this level.


Most of the biggest bombers missed the cut. I bet the field average is still about 300 yards, even with the soft condition. I'm not sure you can make a course too long for these guys - if it's soft, they're throwing darts.

I really love the looks of the course, but candidly, it's really disappointing that the scores are similar to a normal Tour event. Par today was about 69 for the top 30 guys.


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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-17, 22:52

Frank Ricard wrote:MSU alum Ryan Brehm +1.

I'm convinced that they can't make these courses hard enough. This was supposed to be a bombers course, yet someone with relatively modest length is leading it. But even the short hitters have the 300 yd drive in their bag somewhere. There's no such thing as a short hitter at this level.


Most of the biggest bombers missed the cut. I bet the field average is still about 300 yards, even with the soft condition. I'm not sure you can make a course too long for these guys - if it's soft, they're throwing darts.

I really love the looks of the course, but candidly, it's really disappointing that the scores are similar to a normal Tour event. Par today was about 69 for the top 30 guys.

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Post by InTenSity on 2017-06-18, 19:03

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-06-18, 19:05

Eh, it's over at this point.

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Post by Death Roe on 2017-06-18, 19:07

Koepka can play it safe from here on out and coast to the win. Matsuyama only had a shot if Brooks par'd 14.

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Post by Death Roe on 2017-06-18, 19:19

Ballgame.

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-18, 19:23

Why is Joe buck trying to take over my life?

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-06-18, 19:26

Because Joe Buck is evil.

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2017-06-18, 19:38

He is consuming my soul

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by Tim Wakefield on 2017-06-18, 20:06

Koepka going swimming tonight

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Re: The 2017 United States Open Championship

Post by InTenSity on 2017-06-18, 22:01

Tim Wakefield wrote:Koepka going swimming tonight
Dude looks like the embodiment of the country club frat boy douche bag. Probably shouldn't judge on looks but I am.

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