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Post by Turtleneck 2017-08-03, 10:49

American ranchers now know the cost of President Trump’s ill-considered withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) in January 2017. The TPP promised US exporters of high-quality beef improved access to the lucrative, highly protected Japanese market. Instead, US beef producers now face discriminatory treatment, which undercuts their position in their top export market.

US ranchers have been hurt in two ways because the United States is not in the TPP. First, their competitors get better access to the Japanese market. Australian producers are charged lower tariffs in the Japanese market by dint of the Japan-Australia Economic Partnership Agreement (JAEPA). The JAEPA took effect on January 15, 2015, and provides Australian exporters a large and growing tariff advantage over US producers, who must pay the higher most-favored nation (MFN) rate. Under the JAEPA, Australian beef exporters currently are charged a preferential tariff of 27.2 percent compared with the MFN rate of 38.5 percent. Under TPP, both countries would have faced a Japanese tariff of 27.5 percent—and that tariff would have declined over time to 9 percent. The TPP would have leveled the playing field for US ranchers on day 1!

Second, US exporters are subject to special safeguard measures applied by Japan to blunt import surges; Japan’s EPA partners generally are exempt from such restrictions. Unlike regular safeguard actions that require a finding that imports injure domestic producers, the special protection for farm products is imposed automatically if the growth of imports exceeds a fixed amount. In this case, Japan’s total imports of frozen beef in April-June 2017 (the first quarter of Japan’s fiscal year) increased by (slightly) more than 17 percent from the same period last year (see table 1).

Because of this large increase, Japan imposed on August 1, 2017 special safeguard measures in the form of additional tariffs against frozen beef imports from the United States and other countries without an EPA with Japan. The extra duty above the MFN rate is 11.5 percent and will be applied until the end of Japan’s fiscal year (i.e., through March 2018). During this period, Japanese imports from the United States will pay a 50 percent tariff while those from Australia will pay 27.2 percent.

https://piie.com/blogs/trade-investment-policy-watch/shooting-ourselves-hoof
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-08-03, 11:13

According to an MSU classmate who is in the process of turning operations of his family's 600 acre farm (they lease another 1000 acres) Trump isn't helping and as a typical educated family farmer who is a solid GOP voter he doesn't think Trump has a clue about Ag exports.

He's primarily farming soy, corn and sorghum along with a small herd of beef cattle (20-24) for personal and local use.

Trump stopped a trade process that was years in the making and the tooth fairy ain't paying storage fees for harvested product while his administration tries to figure things Trump will agree to.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-08-07, 12:21

Roils Rural America: After the U.S. pullout of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, other nations launch 27 separate negotiations to undercut U.S. exporters.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/07/trump-tpp-deal-withdrawal-trade-effects-215459
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Post by NigelUno 2017-08-07, 12:40

Farmers say Trump’s Cuba policy hurts them
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-10-24, 14:02


Farmers voted heavily for Trump. But his trade policies are terrible for them.

With those unsustainable debts and dwindling profit margins in mind, more than 75 percent of rural voters in the Farm Belt cast their ballots for Trump in the last presidential election. They cheered Trump’s promise to support the Renewable Fuel Standard (which props up the ethanol industry), his pledge to eliminate estate taxes on inherited farmland and roll back regulations on farm runoff, and, most of all, they liked his tough talk on trade policy. Roughly one-third of their combined corn and soybean harvest is shipped overseas, so farmers said they were heartened by Trump’s reputation as a hard-nosed negotiator, a businessman renowned for his skill at the art of the deal, who could strong-arm trading partners into paying higher prices for American commodity grains. Instead, Trump is threatening to withdraw entirely from the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) — a move that farm lobbying organizations, market analysts and trade experts universally agree would be disastrous for farmers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/10/24/farmers-voted-heavily-for-trump-but-his-trade-policies-are-terrible-for-them/?utm_term=.5b8eee761a86
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-10-24, 14:25

Appears MI apple growers could be taking it in the shorts too.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/751885001
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-11-19, 14:15

Despite all this, Iowan farmers remain worried about what the federal government has in mind for them. “We cannot do this on our own with bilateral deals,” says Debi Durham of the Iowa Economic Development Authority, who regrets America pulling out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade pact that was pushed by Barack Obama. Governor Reynolds says diplomatically that Mr Trump’s and Mr Xi’s 100-day plan for trade talks, agreed in April in Florida, was a good start. Having conquered Mr Xi with “Iowa nice”, the state government hopes that a relationship fostered over 30 years will survive what comes next. And if that fails, the Friendship Farm will at least be a curious spectacle for China’s city-dwellers.
https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21731443-slice-midwest-outside-beijing-china-imports-farm-iowa?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/chinaimportsafarmfromiowaacornytale
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-11-19, 15:36

No.

A racist, bigoted sexual predator is not good for anyone.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-11-19, 15:53

No claims of Fake News yet?
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Post by msugolfguy 2017-11-19, 16:06

Robert J Sakimano wrote:No.

A racist, bigoted sexual predator is not good for anyone.
Turtleneck wrote:
Farmers voted heavily for Trump. But his trade policies are terrible for them.

With those unsustainable debts and dwindling profit margins in mind, more than 75 percent of rural voters in the Farm Belt cast their ballots for Trump in the last presidential election. They cheered Trump’s promise to support the Renewable Fuel Standard (which props up the ethanol industry), his pledge to eliminate estate taxes on inherited farmland and roll back regulations on farm runoff, and, most of all, they liked his tough talk on trade policy. Roughly one-third of their combined corn and soybean harvest is shipped overseas, so farmers said they were heartened by Trump’s reputation as a hard-nosed negotiator, a businessman renowned for his skill at the art of the deal, who could strong-arm trading partners into paying higher prices for American commodity grains. Instead, Trump is threatening to withdraw entirely from the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) — a move that farm lobbying organizations, market analysts and trade experts universally agree would be disastrous for farmers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/10/24/farmers-voted-heavily-for-trump-but-his-trade-policies-are-terrible-for-them/?utm_term=.5b8eee761a86

Farmers in general are really well read up on forgein policy and really know what is going on. I don't think they voted for Trump because his trade ideas were favoring farming at least I hope not because that would be really stupid.

It's amazing if you think about it. Did they think Trump was going to turn his back on manufacturing, at some point you have to give up something to make all his promises work.

Example A why we need campaign finance reform, everyone's getting promised something and at some point you have to give a little.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-11-19, 16:29

On the upside, the coal industry is going to be booming!
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-11-19, 18:20

Robert J Sakimano wrote:On the upside, the coal industry is going to be booming!

For very specialized coal needed to make specific kinds of steel that will employer fewer miners because of mechanization and changes in mining technology
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Post by Guest 2017-11-19, 21:51

GRR Spartan wrote:No claims of Fake News yet?

How could I ever know more about farming than someone that has a classmate that farms 1600 acres?

Hell I would have needed to have grown up on a farm, owned a farm, have a family of farmers to even approach that level of inside knowledge.

I'll bet Trump is fucking life up for Tinkers, Sailors and Spies too. Why I wouldn't be surprised if it were discovered that he was fucking life up for the whole State of Michigan. Maybe even the whole Midwest. Oh fuck it, he's screwed the entire country. Damn, let me take a minute and get my panties in a bunch so I can be like you.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-11-20, 17:14

Goose has no comeback so it’s more insult the poster time.

Farmers are getting screwed over by Trump’s ignorance on international trade as are other food producers.

But he’s going to end legal abortion in the United States. The loss of ag exports is a small price to pay to protect the unborn according to some conservative zealots posting here.
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Post by Guest 2017-11-20, 18:46

GRR Spartan wrote:Goose has no comeback so it’s more insult the poster time..

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