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Post by Turtleneck 2017-08-09, 12:58

1. Getting Neil M. Gorsuch confirmed to the Supreme Court;
2. The significant drop-off in illegal immigration crossings (from an already low level);
3. Neither the world nor the Constitution has been destroyed yet;
4. Progress in the Middle East campaign against the Islamic State;
5. A solidly growing economy.


And here we arrive at the biggest dog not to bark in the Trump era. It’s not that economic progress has accelerated — it hasn’t. But there hasn’t been a slowdown either, globally or in the United States. The global economy has not imploded with Trump sitting in the Oval Office. That is a pleasant surprise.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/08/09/what-is-the-trump-administrations-greatest-accomplishment-to-date/?utm_term=.f4f448b0c091
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Post by tGreenWay 2017-08-09, 14:17

Let's not forget the dropoff at the southern border occurred without constructing a wall.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-08-09, 14:39

he has finally shone a light on the glaring hypocrisy of the immoral religious right that we've always known them to be - we just now have daily reminders.

so that's a positive thing.
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Post by NigelUno 2017-08-09, 14:44

He has accomplished more than any President in the history of Presidents.
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Post by DWags 2017-08-09, 15:19

He kept Hilliary out of office.
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Post by tGreenWay 2017-08-09, 15:37

He's restored pride in tiny-handed people everywhere, the likes of which the world has never been seen before.
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Post by Guest 2017-08-09, 15:42

DWags wrote:He kept Hilliary out of office.

#2 - Right behind Gorsuch.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-08-09, 15:43

DWags wrote:He kept Hilliary out of office.
the thought of her emails keeps me awake at night.

oh - and Benghazi.

I get very sad when I think of how she killed those 4 brave Americans in Benghazi.

No

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-08-09, 15:46

he made it okay to mock disabled people.. so that's a good thing..  What has Trump accomplished so far?  969504605

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Post by NigelUno 2017-08-09, 15:51

Most rounds of golf in 6 months.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-08-09, 16:01

I think he's done a lot for the American diet and nutrition..

I mean, now when a kid's mom says "you are what you eat".. point toward our sexual predator as she hands her kid a nutritious orange... packed with vitamins, nutrients and anti-oxidants.



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Post by tGreenWay 2017-08-09, 16:08

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I think he's done a lot for the American diet and nutrition..

I mean, now when a kid's mom says "you are what you eat".. point toward our sexual predator as she hands her kid a nutritious orange... packed with vitamins, nutrients and anti-oxidants.




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Post by Floyd Robertson 2017-08-09, 16:13

I think this has to be a first. In fact, I'm sure of it.

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Post by DWags 2017-08-09, 17:21

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DWags wrote:He kept Hilliary out of office.
the thought of her emails keeps me awake at night.

oh - and Benghazi.

I get very sad when I think of how she killed those 4 brave Americans in Benghazi.

No


I get bummed at the party I support tilting the tables against Bernie. Hate Trump but we, as a party, need to take some blame for this.
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Post by DWags 2017-08-09, 17:23

DWags wrote:He kept Hilliary out of office.

We as a party should have. Bernie wins I believe.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2017-08-09, 17:40

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DWags wrote:He kept Hilliary out of office.

We as a party should have. Bernie wins I believe.

I don't know that you're so right about that. I mean, it gets said a lot, but let's break that down.

He probably would have won Michigan and Wisconsin (let's just say he would have, I'll give you that.) but that wouldn't have been enough, he'd still lose. So he'd need one of Florida, Ohio or Pennsylvania. The only one of the three that is even reasonable to think it would have made a difference is Pennsylvania, which trump won by about 80,000 votes. (Florida was like 140k and Ohio was 400k. Ohio is certainly out, Florida- probably. Penn is your best shot.)

So when you say that, what you're telling me is that you think that sanders would have switched 80,000 votes in Pennsylvania (plus the handful in Wisconsin and Michigan that are totally reasonable and already conceded.) now, I don't know a ton about Pennsylvania politics, just bits and pieces, but I'm pretty sure you're hanging your hat exclusively on winning those votes in Philadelphia. Would that have happened? I don't know, but I guess I'm just going into more detail on what you're saying.

Or if sanders had won the nomination a violent species of aliens would have attacked us. Butterfly effect and all that, who the hell knows. I'm just basing the above off of what actually happened and what would need to change.
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Post by DWags 2017-08-09, 17:56

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
DWags wrote:

We as a party should have. Bernie wins I believe.

I don't know that you're so right about that. I mean, it gets said a lot, but let's break that down.

He probably would have won Michigan and Wisconsin (let's just say he would have, I'll give you that.) but that wouldn't have been enough, he'd still lose. So he'd need one of Florida, Ohio or Pennsylvania. The only one of the three that is even reasonable to think it would have made a difference is Pennsylvania, which trump won by about 80,000 votes. (Florida was like 140k and Ohio was 400k. Ohio is certainly out, Florida- probably. Penn is your best shot.)

So when you say that, what you're telling me is that you think that sanders would have switched 80,000 votes in Pennsylvania (plus the handful in Wisconsin and Michigan that are totally reasonable and already conceded.) now, I don't know a ton about Pennsylvania politics, just bits and pieces, but I'm pretty sure you're hanging your hat exclusively on winning those votes in Philadelphia. Would that have happened? I don't know, but I guess I'm just going into more detail on what you're saying.

Or if sanders had won the nomination a violent species of aliens would have attacked us. Butterfly effect and all that, who the hell knows. I'm just basing the above off of what actually happened and what would need to change.

All good points but there were a number of old democrats like me who I'm very suspicious about not voting. To many of them it was "fuck the clintons". I've not really broken it down. Im just speculating
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2017-08-09, 18:04

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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

I don't know that you're so right about that. I mean, it gets said a lot, but let's break that down.

He probably would have won Michigan and Wisconsin (let's just say he would have, I'll give you that.) but that wouldn't have been enough, he'd still lose. So he'd need one of Florida, Ohio or Pennsylvania. The only one of the three that is even reasonable to think it would have made a difference is Pennsylvania, which trump won by about 80,000 votes. (Florida was like 140k and Ohio was 400k. Ohio is certainly out, Florida- probably. Penn is your best shot.)

So when you say that, what you're telling me is that you think that sanders would have switched 80,000 votes in Pennsylvania (plus the handful in Wisconsin and Michigan that are totally reasonable and already conceded.) now, I don't know a ton about Pennsylvania politics, just bits and pieces, but I'm pretty sure you're hanging your hat exclusively on winning those votes in Philadelphia. Would that have happened? I don't know, but I guess I'm just going into more detail on what you're saying.

Or if sanders had won the nomination a violent species of aliens would have attacked us. Butterfly effect and all that, who the hell knows. I'm just basing the above off of what actually happened and what would need to change.

All good points but there were a number of old democrats like me who I'm very suspicious about not voting. To many of them it was "fuck the clintons". I've not really broken it down. Im just speculating

Yeah I mean that's where you get into the butterfly effect part of it. Seems to make sense that sanders would have attracted more votes than Clinton would off the cuff, but what's unknowable is how the whole fake news/Russia thing may have played out with sanders as a nominee. Or trump screaming "he's a socialist" into a microphone every chance he got. I doubt there's many that voted for trump that would have been swayed, so we're relying on non voters to come out for him. But there's so many variables that there's no way to really know what would have happened.

I think it's an interesting question though. Obvi.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2017-08-09, 18:16

Bernie would have won, shut up Travis.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2017-08-09, 18:19

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Bernie would have won, shut up Travis.

It really is an unknowable question, but I'm glad the Pennsylvanian politics expert has chimed in and had fully thought this through previously instead of reacting emotionally to the guy he was a super fan of :)
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-08-09, 18:21

Just want to say fuck Bernie.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2017-08-09, 18:36

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Bernie would have won, shut up Travis.

It really is an unknowable question, but I'm glad the Pennsylvanian politics expert has chimed in and had fully thought this through previously instead of reacting emotionally to the guy he was a super fan of :)

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Turtleneck wrote:Just want to say fuck Bernie.

The best candidate we had to choose from, no?
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Post by tGreenWay 2017-08-09, 19:05

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
DWags wrote:

We as a party should have. Bernie wins I believe.

I don't know that you're so right about that. I mean, it gets said a lot, but let's break that down.

He probably would have won Michigan and Wisconsin (let's just say he would have, I'll give you that.) but that wouldn't have been enough, he'd still lose. So he'd need one of Florida, Ohio or Pennsylvania. The only one of the three that is even reasonable to think it would have made a difference is Pennsylvania, which trump won by about 80,000 votes. (Florida was like 140k and Ohio was 400k. Ohio is certainly out, Florida- probably. Penn is your best shot.)

So when you say that, what you're telling me is that you think that sanders would have switched 80,000 votes in Pennsylvania (plus the handful in Wisconsin and Michigan that are totally reasonable and already conceded.) now, I don't know a ton about Pennsylvania politics, just bits and pieces, but I'm pretty sure you're hanging your hat exclusively on winning those votes in Philadelphia. Would that have happened? I don't know, but I guess I'm just going into more detail on what you're saying.

Or if sanders had won the nomination a violent species of aliens would have attacked us. Butterfly effect and all that, who the hell knows. I'm just basing the above off of what actually happened and what would need to change.

I just love reading your streams of consciousness.
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Post by DWags 2017-08-09, 19:14

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I don't know that you're so right about that. I mean, it gets said a lot, but let's break that down.

He probably would have won Michigan and Wisconsin (let's just say he would have, I'll give you that.) but that wouldn't have been enough, he'd still lose. So he'd need one of Florida, Ohio or Pennsylvania. The only one of the three that is even reasonable to think it would have made a difference is Pennsylvania, which trump won by about 80,000 votes. (Florida was like 140k and Ohio was 400k. Ohio is certainly out, Florida- probably. Penn is your best shot.)

So when you say that, what you're telling me is that you think that sanders would have switched 80,000 votes in Pennsylvania (plus the handful in Wisconsin and Michigan that are totally reasonable and already conceded.) now, I don't know a ton about Pennsylvania politics, just bits and pieces, but I'm pretty sure you're hanging your hat exclusively on winning those votes in Philadelphia. Would that have happened? I don't know, but I guess I'm just going into more detail on what you're saying.

Or if sanders had won the nomination a violent species of aliens would have attacked us. Butterfly effect and all that, who the hell knows. I'm just basing the above off of what actually happened and what would need to change.

I just love reading your streams of consciousness.

Wow, and I love reading your babbling streams of unconscious goobily gob. I love you both. ta ta for now.
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Post by tGreenWay 2017-08-09, 19:39

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I just love reading your streams of consciousness.



Wow, and I love reading your babbling streams of unconscious goobily gob. I love you both. ta ta for now.

The words I gild this website with are carefully chosen, pinpoint precise examples of how all Americans should think, feel, and act. In fact, America should really change its name to GreenWayLand.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2017-08-09, 19:42

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Wow, and I love reading your babbling streams of unconscious goobily gob. I love you both. ta ta for now.

The words I gild this website with are carefully chosen, pinpoint precise examples of how all Americans should think, feel, and act. In fact, America should really change its name to GreenWayLand.

Your words remind me of this.

Really I just wanted an excuse to share this. It made me laugh. I hope it makes you laugh too.
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
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The words I gild this website with are carefully chosen, pinpoint precise examples of how all Americans should think, feel, and act. In fact, America should really change its name to GreenWayLand.

Your words remind me of this.

Really I just wanted an excuse to share this. It made me laugh. I hope it makes you laugh too.

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Turtleneck wrote:No

Who?
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-08-10, 00:20

Does that need to be asked?
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Turtleneck wrote:Does that need to be asked?

Why you dodging the question goose?
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-08-10, 01:58

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Does that need to be asked?

Why you dodging the question goose?

Dodging the question?

My answer is Clinton.

Good enough for you?

I'm sorry, but I never bought Grandpa's faux revolution.
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Why you dodging the question goose?

Dodging the question?

My answer is Clinton.

Good enough for you?

I'm sorry, but I never bought Grandpa's faux revolution.

It wouldn't have been a "revolution" - that's how you rally votes. Look at Trumps white taking back America thing. Obamas change/hope message. In the end, shit is pretty much going to be the same but quite worse with someone like trump in there, obviously. With that said - Like trav mentioned he still really doesn't do much and says a lot. Seems like the norm of politics to me.
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Dodging the question?

My answer is Clinton.

Good enough for you?

I'm sorry, but I never bought Grandpa's faux revolution.

It wouldn't have been a "revolution" - that's how you rally votes. Look at Trumps white taking back America thing. Obamas change/hope message. In the end, shit is pretty much going to be the same but quite worse with someone like trump in there, obviously. With that said - Like trav mentioned he still really doesn't do much and says a lot. Seems like the norm of politics to me.

Do you have any specifics on what Sanders would have done better?  Like Trump he would have been dealing with a hostile Congress only more so.  The only big difference I can see is the Supreme Court nominee - who still might not be approved.  Anything to do with the "travel ban" is fluff since that hasn't really affected most lives in America....

I'm sincerely curious on what you think Sanders would have accomplished in 6 months that would have made any kind of a real difference?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2017-08-10, 09:15

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It wouldn't have been a "revolution" - that's how you rally votes. Look at Trumps white taking back America thing. Obamas change/hope message. In the end, shit is pretty much going to be the same but quite worse with someone like trump in there, obviously. With that said - Like trav mentioned he still really doesn't do much and says a lot. Seems like the norm of politics to me.

Do you have any specifics on what Sanders would have done better?  Like Trump he would have been dealing with a hostile Congress only more so.  The only big difference I can see is the Supreme Court nominee - who still might not be approved.  Anything to do with the "travel ban" is fluff since that hasn't really affected most lives in America....

I'm sincerely curious on what you think Sanders would have accomplished in 6 months that would have made any kind of a real difference?

Could you guys imagine the hellfire that would rain from the skies if I referred to abortion as fluff since it doesn't really effect goose's life?

Just messin with you bud. Sanders, just like Clinton, wouldn't have been able to have accomplished much to this point. But we wouldn't have to wonder everyday what either of them might do any given day, knowning that nothing would really change. We don't know that now.

Also Paris. I know, you think that it's a bunch of a fooey, and whatever, this isn't the thread for that. The rest of us (I think I can speak for basically the rest of the board) think it's a really bad thing that we aren't a world leader on fighting climate change.
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:The rest of us (I think I can speak for basically the rest of the board) think it's a really bad thing that we aren't a world leader on fighting climate change.

What has Trump accomplished so far?  502811600 What has Trump accomplished so far?  502811600 What has Trump accomplished so far?  502811600 "fighting climate change"   C'mon man...the climate will always be changing and your "fight" won't change that.   And do it in another thread if you want but tell me again the effect of the Paris Treaty on the climate?   You know, how much are they projecting that temps will come down?


BTW - have you been watching the news from Australia on temps?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2017-08-10, 09:25

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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:The rest of us (I think I can speak for basically the rest of the board) think it's a really bad thing that we aren't a world leader on fighting climate change.

What has Trump accomplished so far?  502811600 What has Trump accomplished so far?  502811600 What has Trump accomplished so far?  502811600 "fighting climate change"   C'mon man...the climate will always be changing and your "fight" won't change that.   And do it in another thread if you want but tell me again the effect of the Paris Treaty on the climate?   You know, how much are they projecting that temps will come down?


BTW - have you been watching the news from Australia on temps?

I tried man. I tried.

Again, this ISNT the thread for that. And frankly, I'm not particularly interested in debating it at the moment. You asked a question. I answered.
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Post by NigelUno 2017-08-10, 09:30

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Do you have any specifics on what Sanders would have done better?  Like Trump he would have been dealing with a hostile Congress only more so.  The only big difference I can see is the Supreme Court nominee - who still might not be approved.  Anything to do with the "travel ban" is fluff since that hasn't really affected most lives in America....

I'm sincerely curious on what you think Sanders would have accomplished in 6 months that would have made any kind of a real difference?

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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2017-08-10, 09:33

Goose I know somehow the asshole/know nothing/blow hard has won you over but I said "shit is pretty much going to be the same". Maybe we don't look like such assholes on the international stage. I guarantee race relations wouldn't seem so unstable (even if they are really not). We wouldn't have a president tweeting out his feelings like a high schooler. He would be trying to get progressive policies in place with education, efficienct energy, etc - meanwhile we are yelling about North Korea, a wall to keep out the lazy Mexicans, trying to keep out certain members of society from serving the country. But - it pleases the morans.

Again - not much would be different policy wise but the landscape and future would look different. Trump is going backwards to please the idiots. Yes I think they are idiots and this is what got him elected because I think the people that voted for him are idiots. What has Trump accomplished so far?  502811600
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