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Post by steveschneider on 2017-10-13, 11:17

I'm seeing the usual rounds of Dusty Baker is an idiot after a tough loss in a game that could have went either way.

14th in all time wins as a manager (ahead of Francona, Bosche, Lasorda, Weaver)

.532 win percentage

I say really good manager. Ball doesn't lie and there's a strong argument for HOF. The best argument against HOF is he hasn't won a ring.



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Post by TheReal_LWS on 2017-10-13, 11:20

I'd say okay. He has had some awesome teams and his postseason record isn't HOF material.

Not an idiot, but not the greatest manager the game has ever seen either.
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Post by TheReal_LWS on 2017-10-13, 11:24

He is also 71st in career Winning Percentage (315 or more games).
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Post by TheReal_LWS on 2017-10-13, 11:31

For HOF consideration, if you give me Davey Johnson I'll give you Dusty Baker.
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Post by steveschneider on 2017-10-13, 11:46

TheReal_LWS wrote:I'd say okay. He has had some awesome teams and his postseason record isn't HOF material.

Not an idiot, but not the greatest manager the game has ever seen either.

I agree with your take. I just think there's a mob mentality casting him off as a total buffoon. I don't think it's accurate.
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Post by Death Roe on 2017-10-13, 12:14

A really good manager that has blown a lot of memorable teams' chances.

Should've won game 7 of the 2003 NLCS with the Cubs.

Should've won game 6 of the 2002 World Series when Russ Ortiz was dominating the Angels.

Should've won last night's game.
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Post by steveschneider on 2017-10-13, 12:36

Death Roe wrote:A really good manager that has blown a lot of memorable teams' chances.

Should've won game 7 of the 2003 NLCS with the Cubs.

Should've won game 6 of the 2002 World Series when Russ Ortiz was dominating the Angels.

Should've won last night's game.

Tough but fair.
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Post by Cameron on 2017-10-14, 19:26

Dusty Baker is a god damn moron and he ruined Mark Prior. Fuck Dusty Baker.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-10-14, 20:19

Cameron wrote:Dusty Baker is a god damn moron and he ruined Mark Prior. Fuck Dusty Baker.

lol, I might not quite be at this level but I wouldn't want him around the Tigers young arms.
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Post by msuspartan4eva on 2017-10-15, 21:52

Cameron wrote:Dusty Baker is a god damn moron and he ruined Mark Prior. Fuck Dusty Baker.

True, but he also burnt out Kerry Wood. Cubs fans love sending him home again. He is not, and and never has been a great manager. Good? Maybe, but his Giants, Cubs and Nats teams were LOADED with talent and he never won the big one. Probably will get one more chance next season: probably.
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Post by steveschneider on 2017-10-15, 22:00

Cameron wrote:Dusty Baker is a god damn moron and he ruined Mark Prior. Fuck Dusty Baker.

Just did a simple google search to the internet myth that he ruined Mark Prior -

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/former-cubs-ace-mark-prior-i-dont-blame-dusty-baker-for-what-happened-to-me-080516

Good read and sets the record straight. I really think it’s a misinformed mob that is going after Dusty.
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Post by steveschneider on 2017-10-20, 12:21

Well the Nats are going to move forward without Dusty.
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Post by TheReal_LWS on 2017-10-20, 12:22

steveschneider wrote:Well the Nats are going to move forward without Dusty.

Winning in the post-season is a must.
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Post by Death Roe on 2017-10-20, 12:40

TheReal_LWS wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Well the Nats are going to move forward without Dusty.

Winning in the post-season is a must.
Sound analysis
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Post by steveschneider on 2017-10-20, 12:42

Lets see them get out of the first round with the next guy.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-10-20, 12:52

Dusty was OK, nothing more.

Gardenhire would have been good in DC.
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Post by Death Roe on 2017-10-20, 12:59

Dusty has managed the Reds. That was before the Nationals.
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Post by TheReal_LWS on 2017-10-20, 13:03

steveschneider wrote:Lets see them get out of the first round with the next guy.

Maybe they won't. Or worse even make the playoffs. But the point is that management feels they have to make a change in order to try and get over the hump. Either your team has holes you need to fill or the manager isn't capable of getting you there. Clearly they feel the latter.
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Post by steveschneider on 2017-10-20, 13:34

LooseGoose wrote:Dusty was OK, nothing more.

Gardenhire would have been good in DC.

Gardenhire might have been able to land that which makes me wonder why he would have taken the job in detroit. He undersold himself a bit.
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Post by steveschneider on 2017-10-20, 13:38

TheReal_LWS wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Lets see them get out of the first round with the next guy.

Maybe they won't. Or worse even make the playoffs. But the point is that management feels they have to make a change in order to try and get over the hump. Either your team has holes you need to fill or the manager isn't capable of getting you there. Clearly they feel the latter.

Just my .02 but the team has some holes and was the main issue. I don’t blame them for letting him go but without upgrading some talent I cant see them competing for the pennant. I think there’s about 10 guys you could plug in there for a manager and the results are about the same.
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