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Post by Rocinante on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 14:59

First Baptist Church - Southerland Sprigs Texas.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/several-casualties-reported-texas-church-shooting-n817751

Use this thread to consolidate news until Travis has to move it.

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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 15:09

Thoughts and prayers!

Ok now that’s done.. what was I doing again?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 15:37

My thoughts and prayers are with NRA members during this very difficult time.

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Post by Rocinante on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 15:39

You know what? We don’t even know what’s happened and this is the bullshit that goes on. Stop being assholes for 5 minutes. Please.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 15:50

Rocinante wrote:You know what? We don’t even know what’s happened and this is the bullshit that goes on. Stop being assholes for 5 minutes. Please.

What did I say?
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Post by Death Roe on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 15:53

Rocinante wrote:You know what? We don’t even know what’s happened and this is the bullshit that goes on. Stop being assholes for 5 minutes. Please.

Thank you, Roc. (seriously)

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I mean, the first thing with pea soup is the texture, okay?
I've had watery pea soup, it's AWFUL.
Uh, I've had gelatinous, thick pea soup, it's TERRIBLE.
Pea soup, much like clam chowder, needs to have that consistency first, that you can stand the spoon up in it, but the spoon soon tilts, that's the consistency you want.
Number two: Uh, pea soup on it's own can be a little bland. It wants, uh, a fairly aggressive peppering and salting.
Number three: Pea soup needs a fine dice of ham. Not bacon, not any other meat, not turkey. It needs a fine dice of ham.
Uh, number four: Uh, pea soup scorches easily. You don't wanna heat it on a high heat. You wanna heat it on medium low, just until it's warmed through.
Uh, number five: Pea soup is best made, uh, by hand, not out of a Campbell's can. And the key to pea soup, you want a ham bone, uh, for the stock you make, uh, to, to boil your peas.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 15:59

Second terrorist attack on American soil in less than a week.

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Post by Rocinante on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 18:22

At least 25 dead now being reported. Based on the videos of church services, some will be children.

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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 18:31

Rocinante wrote:At least 25 dead now being reported. Based on the videos of church services, some will be children.

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Post by tGreenWay on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 18:32

Shooter is a 26 yo Devin Patrick Kelley. Pastor was out of town but says his 14 yo daughter is among the dead.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 18:33

Rocinante wrote:At least 25 dead now being reported. Based on the videos of church services, some will be children.
too soon to attempt to humanize the victims.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 18:34

tGreenWay wrote:Shooter is a 26 yo Devin Patrick Kelley. Pastor was out of town but says his 14 yo daughter is among the dead.
"Devin Patrick Kelley" is a strange name for a terrorist.
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Post by gHost Spartan on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 18:35

Welp. Another day, another terrorist act, mass shooting... whatever... Sad.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 18:36

gHost Spartan wrote:Welp. Another day, another terrorist act, mass shooting... whatever... Sad.
I wonder where Devin was radicalized?
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Post by Rocinante on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 18:37

Lots of misinformation being bandied about about the shooter already. I don’t understand why people think that’s warranted or funny. People don’t seem to get that there’s no internet you and IRL you. If you’re an asshole on the internet, you’re just an asshole.

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Post by steveschneider on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 18:46

Thoughts and prayers to the victims. All across gods great nation there will be candle light vigils and no one should talk about the gun problem until the last candle burns out.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 18:53

Rocinante wrote:Lots of misinformation being bandied about about the shooter already. I don’t understand why people think that’s warranted or funny. People don’t seem to get that there’s no internet you and IRL you. If you’re an asshole on the internet, you’re just an asshole.
I'm guessing the shooter is white?

If so, thoughts and prayers. If not, build the wall/Muslim ban.
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Post by LooseGoose on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 18:59

If this is true he was breaking laws the minute he picked a gun up....yet somehow people convince themselves that 5 more laws would have somehow deterred him.   There's no logic in that whatsoever.  

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Church shooter is a former U.S. Air Force member, received a dishonorable discharge & was court martialed in May2014



The dishonorable discharge is based on a general court-martial conviction. This means the conviction is a felony, regardless of what the underlying offense may have been. The convicted felon is banned from possessing a firearm including Title II Firearms (a Silencer, SBR, SBS, AOW, or Machine Gun)

https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2010/09/dishonorable-discharge-and-nfa.html

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Post by LooseGoose on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:02

Compassion

Antonio E. Gonzalez‏ @ReFlex76

Sutherland Springs is in rural Texas, these were all likely 45 voters.

This is karma in action.

Good riddance.

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Post by Herbie Green on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:02

Rocinante wrote:Lots of misinformation being bandied about about the shooter already. I don’t understand why people think that’s warranted or funny. People don’t seem to get that there’s no internet you and IRL you. If you’re an asshole on the internet, you’re just an asshole.

I don't know.  I think I am an asshole on the Internet but a pretty cool guy to have a beer with in real life.  

But I think it is a little different when it is personal.  Of course there are in fact asshole(s) here that cross that line.
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Post by LooseGoose on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:04

Oh and maybe some more smartassery about armed good guys would be appropriate here:

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BREAKING: DPS confirms the Sutherland Springs suspect "engaged in gunfight" with another citizen who tried to stop him. Cannot confirm if citizen killed him or if it was self-inflicted gunshot.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:05

LooseGoose wrote:If this is true he was breaking laws the minute he picked a gun up....yet somehow people convince themselves that 5 more laws would have somehow deterred him.   There's no logic in that whatsoever.  

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Church shooter is a former U.S. Air Force member, received a dishonorable discharge & was court martialed in May2014



The dishonorable discharge is based on a general court-martial conviction. This means the conviction is a felony, regardless of what the underlying offense may have been. The convicted felon is banned from possessing a firearm including Title II Firearms (a Silencer, SBR, SBS, AOW, or Machine Gun)

https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2010/09/dishonorable-discharge-and-nfa.html
so is Devin white?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:07

LooseGoose wrote:Oh and maybe some more smartassery about armed good guys would be appropriate here:

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BREAKING: DPS confirms the Sutherland Springs suspect "engaged in gunfight" with another citizen who tried to stop him. Cannot confirm if citizen killed him or if it was self-inflicted gunshot.
churches are the most dangerous places in America.

That's why I don't go.
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Post by Rocinante on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:07

At least 25 people are dead. Some were kids. At least one was a pregnant woman. What team are we on here? Republicans? Democrats? How about human fucking beings? You guys sicken me. Like literally. You make me feel sick to my stomach.

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Post by Death Roe on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:07

Ugh.

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I mean, the first thing with pea soup is the texture, okay?
I've had watery pea soup, it's AWFUL.
Uh, I've had gelatinous, thick pea soup, it's TERRIBLE.
Pea soup, much like clam chowder, needs to have that consistency first, that you can stand the spoon up in it, but the spoon soon tilts, that's the consistency you want.
Number two: Uh, pea soup on it's own can be a little bland. It wants, uh, a fairly aggressive peppering and salting.
Number three: Pea soup needs a fine dice of ham. Not bacon, not any other meat, not turkey. It needs a fine dice of ham.
Uh, number four: Uh, pea soup scorches easily. You don't wanna heat it on a high heat. You wanna heat it on medium low, just until it's warmed through.
Uh, number five: Pea soup is best made, uh, by hand, not out of a Campbell's can. And the key to pea soup, you want a ham bone, uh, for the stock you make, uh, to, to boil your peas.
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Post by LooseGoose on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:08

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:If this is true he was breaking laws the minute he picked a gun up....yet somehow people convince themselves that 5 more laws would have somehow deterred him.   There's no logic in that whatsoever.  







https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2010/09/dishonorable-discharge-and-nfa.html
so is Devin white?

That doesn't matter to me, I'm sorry it does for you. But then again everything with you starts with race, it's your schtick.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:10

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: so is Devin white?

That doesn't matter to me, I'm sorry it does for you. But then again everything with you starts with race, it's your schtick.
so, he's white.

Thoughts and prayers.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:11

Rocinante wrote:At least 25 people are dead. Some were kids. At least one was a pregnant woman. What team are we on here? Republicans? Democrats? How about human fucking beings? You guys sicken me. Like literally. You make me feel sick to my stomach.
I'm on the side of life, not "thoughts and prayers".

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Post by Death Roe on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:15

Rocinante wrote:At least 25 people are dead. Some were kids. At least one was a pregnant woman. What team are we on here? Republicans? Democrats? How about human fucking beings? You guys sicken me. Like literally. You make me feel sick to my stomach.

I think we only really know one person in this thread making it a political thing.

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I mean, the first thing with pea soup is the texture, okay?
I've had watery pea soup, it's AWFUL.
Uh, I've had gelatinous, thick pea soup, it's TERRIBLE.
Pea soup, much like clam chowder, needs to have that consistency first, that you can stand the spoon up in it, but the spoon soon tilts, that's the consistency you want.
Number two: Uh, pea soup on it's own can be a little bland. It wants, uh, a fairly aggressive peppering and salting.
Number three: Pea soup needs a fine dice of ham. Not bacon, not any other meat, not turkey. It needs a fine dice of ham.
Uh, number four: Uh, pea soup scorches easily. You don't wanna heat it on a high heat. You wanna heat it on medium low, just until it's warmed through.
Uh, number five: Pea soup is best made, uh, by hand, not out of a Campbell's can. And the key to pea soup, you want a ham bone, uh, for the stock you make, uh, to, to boil your peas.
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Post by kingstonlake on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:51

For the record laws do deter people. For example, its why I don't walk to my car without paying for my groceries first.
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Post by kingstonlake on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 19:56

LooseGoose wrote:Oh and maybe some more smartassery about armed good guys would be appropriate here:

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Just think how many bad guys he could have dispatched if he were carrying a semi automatic rifle with a bump stock. Clearly this good guy was ill prepared for self defense if he was carrying a pussy boy weapon like a stock .38 or something...... The NRA isn't gonna like this.
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Post by LooseGoose on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 20:06

Looks like the standard NRA member to me...



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Post by LooseGoose on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 20:07

Maybe Bob can tell me what group wears camo paint like that?

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Post by kingstonlake on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 20:31

LooseGoose wrote:Looks like the standard NRA member to me...


Hard to tell if he was an NRA member or just enabled by their lobby, Goose.
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Post by kingstonlake on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 20:32

Definitely a nice weapon for "personal" protection.
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Post by LooseGoose on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 20:45

kingstonlake wrote:Definitely a nice weapon for "personal" protection.

Illegally owned. He was confronted and stopped by a legal gun owner.

It still amazes me how many people think passing more laws will stop people that obey no laws. This from supposedly educated, logical people.

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Post by kingstonlake on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 20:50

LooseGoose wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Definitely a nice weapon for "personal" protection.

Illegally owned.  He was confronted and stopped by a legal gun owner.

It still amazes me how many people think passing more laws will stop people that obey no laws.   This from supposedly educated, logical people.

Are you on the side of less laws and restrictions for gun owners?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 20:51

Rocinante wrote:Lots of misinformation being bandied about about the shooter already. I don’t understand why people think that’s warranted or funny. People don’t seem to get that there’s no internet you and IRL you. If you’re an asshole on the internet, you’re just an asshole.

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Death Roe wrote:
Rocinante wrote:At least 25 people are dead. Some were kids. At least one was a pregnant woman. What team are we on here? Republicans? Democrats? How about human fucking beings? You guys sicken me. Like literally. You make me feel sick to my stomach.

I think we only really know one person in this thread making it a political thing.

Looks like two to me, Jim. Back to you.

One thing I do know, when this happens again in a few weeks it’ll be the same tired ass argument. America.
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Post by GRR Spartan on Sun 5 Nov 2017 - 21:23

Somebody sold the weapon to him, bought it for him or he stole it from a careless owner who didn't look it up.

If 20 children and 6 adults killed at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut in Dec '12 got the more laws won't change anything crowd to keep the status quo why should 25 people dying after being shot in a Baptist church 1900 miles away 5 years later change things.

Thought and prayers. Again and again and again and again.

Its the chaos the NRA and others depend on to thrive

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