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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2018-01-10, 00:23

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:How far is msu from a Natty? Is it even possible? Yeah the playoff two years ago but we got beat by what 37... someone talk some sense into me.

I was in the car for 10 minutes today and unfortunately tuned into Valenti and his producer talking about how they have realized schools MSU and UM and mostly even OSU have no shot in the current era and can't compete with SEC.

The truth is until the rules change, we cannot compete on a year in and year out basis. But a 2013 pops up every once in awhile. A 2015 pops up every once in awhile. It's unlikely in the current era that we will ever win a Natty in football. But there are years where the door is open and if the timing is right it is entirely possible.

Frankly the same is true in basketball. We can't compete with UK and Duke year in and year out. But there are windows. Like 2014 and this year.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on 2018-01-10, 00:35

Man, even college sports are full of monopolies.

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Post by tGreenWay on 2018-01-10, 01:53

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:How far is msu from a Natty? Is it even possible? Yeah the playoff two years ago but we got beat by what 37... someone talk some sense into me.

I was in the car for 10 minutes today and unfortunately tuned into Valenti and his producer talking about how they have realized schools MSU and UM and mostly even OSU have no shot in the current era and can't compete with SEC.

The truth is until the rules change, we cannot compete on a year in and year out basis. But a 2013 pops up every once in awhile. A 2015 pops up every once in awhile. It's unlikely in the current era that we will ever win a Natty in football. But there are years where the door is open and if the timing is right it is entirely possible.

Frankly the same is true in basketball. We can't compete with UK and Duke year in and year out. But there are windows. Like 2014 and this year.

I totally agree. Our very best is still going to come up short against the best of the SEC, and maybe the ACC.
Curious, though, as to what rules changes they were discussing that might give us a boost that would make us competitive in a head-to-head with Bama in a title game setting?
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Re: 2018/19 MSU Football thread.

Post by DWags on 2018-01-10, 02:13

tGreenWay wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

I was in the car for 10 minutes today and unfortunately tuned into Valenti and his producer talking about how they have realized schools MSU and UM and mostly even OSU have no shot in the current era and can't compete with SEC.

The truth is until the rules change, we cannot compete on a year in and year out basis. But a 2013 pops up every once in awhile. A 2015 pops up every once in awhile. It's unlikely in the current era that we will ever win a Natty in football. But there are years where the door is open and if the timing is right it is entirely possible.

Frankly the same is true in basketball. We can't compete with UK and Duke year in and year out. But there are windows. Like 2014 and this year.

I totally agree. Our very best is still going to come up short against the best of the SEC, and maybe the ACC.
Curious, though, as to what rules changes they were discussing that might give us a boost that would make us competitive in a head-to-head with Bama in a title game setting?

Reduce scholarships to 75. Boom. Done. (And I know it won’t happen)
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-10, 07:00

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tGreenWay wrote:

I totally agree. Our very best is still going to come up short against the best of the SEC, and maybe the ACC.
Curious, though, as to what rules changes they were discussing that might give us a boost that would make us competitive in a head-to-head with Bama in a title game setting?

Reduce scholarships to 75. Boom. Done. (And I know it won’t happen)

Or leave it at 85 but hard cap it. Once you put a kid on schollie there's no washing him out and re-using it for 4 years.

That would stop the 30+ player a year classes.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-10, 20:48

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2018-01-11, 17:57

MSU apparently wanted to hire or talk to Renaldo Hill about a position but he's staying with Duzzi at Pitt.
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2018-01-11, 17:59

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:MSU apparently wanted to hire or talk to Renaldo Hill about a position but he's staying with Duzzi at Pitt.

Nobody wants to work for Dantonio anymore, we're doomed.
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Post by Clarett's Folly on 2018-01-11, 18:05

Floyd Robertson wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:MSU apparently wanted to hire or talk to Renaldo Hill about a position but he's staying with Duzzi at Pitt.

Nobody wants to work for Dantonio anymore, we're doomed.

This should provide at least three articles for Det News.
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Re: 2018/19 MSU Football thread.

Post by DWags on 2018-01-11, 18:13

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:MSU apparently wanted to hire or talk to Renaldo Hill about a position but he's staying with Duzzi at Pitt.

Well that’s awkward all around. Solaris will mention this in every basketball article he writes for the next month.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-12, 09:37

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Post by tGreenWay on 2018-01-12, 20:21

TOB is reporting T. Jackson is transferring, per his twitter account.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-12, 20:40

In reference to the Jackson news....

810Spartan said....(original post)
As of now, Chambers is planning on staying.
This is one of the transfers I alluded too.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2018-01-15, 13:51

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Post by Nordic on 2018-01-15, 14:09

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Trishton joining Syracuse

https://twitter.com/Toogie_2/status/952963667473158146

They like to sling it
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Re: 2018/19 MSU Football thread.

Post by Floyd Robertson on 2018-01-19, 13:09



Night game would be interesting now that we, ummm, have lights.
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Re: 2018/19 MSU Football thread.

Post by Da Mayor on 2018-01-19, 13:26

Paul Haynes hired as DB coach. Tressel promoted to full time DC. Will still coach LBs.
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Re: 2018/19 MSU Football thread.

Post by Tim Wakefield on 2018-01-19, 14:07

Who dat
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Post by tGreenWay on 2018-01-19, 14:09

Tim Wakefield wrote:Who dat

Tressel was previously co-DC and LBs coach. Surprised you didn’t know that.
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Post by DWags on 2018-01-19, 14:12

Tim Wakefield wrote:Who dat

Catholic Ohio guy that CF vouches for.  We're good.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-19, 14:27

Tim Wakefield wrote:Who dat

Previously coached here when you were a young lad.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-20, 06:06

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Post by DWags on 2018-01-20, 14:45

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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-20, 15:02

That would be .....interesting.
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2018-01-20, 15:33

F'in Harbaugh doin Harbaugh shit again.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-20, 16:41

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2018-01-22, 09:59

Did you guys hear that Warriner is actually going to the Titans since they hired Vrabel?
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-22, 10:16

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Did you guys hear that Warriner is actually going to the Titans since they hired Vrabel?

MGo claiming it's been discussed but not a done deal. God would that grate them to have someone turn Harbs down for Vrabel. In fairness though Warriner has much closer ties to tOSU people.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2018-01-22, 16:14

What the fuck does a freshmen head coach do?
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2018-01-22, 16:16

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:What the fuck does a freshmen head coach do?

I don't know why you don't understand that. It's pretty self-explanatory.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2018-01-22, 16:23

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Watch Out Pylon! wrote:What the fuck does a freshmen head coach do?

I don't know why you don't understand that. It's pretty self-explanatory.


Well at face value it explains itself, but what is the job description? Will Treadwell act as head coach for all freshmen and Dantonio has little to no say in what happens with them? Is Dantonio taking on a lesser role now like a Joe Pa? Is Treadwell the next head coach?????

Wildly speculate!
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2018-01-22, 16:28

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

I don't know why you don't understand that. It's pretty self-explanatory.


Well at face value it explains itself, but what is the job description? Will Treadwell act as head coach for all freshmen and Dantonio has little to no say in what happens with them? Is Dantonio taking on a lesser role now like a Joe Pa? Is Treadwell the next head coach?????

Wildly speculate!

You know I was kidding right? For the life of me I have no idea what that entails.

So here's my wild speculation. We're turning back the clocks on freshmen eligibility and Treadwell is their head coach when they scrimmage other B1G schools.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2018-01-22, 16:37

Floyd Robertson wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Well at face value it explains itself, but what is the job description? Will Treadwell act as head coach for all freshmen and Dantonio has little to no say in what happens with them? Is Dantonio taking on a lesser role now like a Joe Pa? Is Treadwell the next head coach?????

Wildly speculate!

You know I was kidding right? For the life of me I have no idea what that entails.

So here's my wild speculation. We're turning back the clocks on freshmen eligibility and Treadwell is their head coach when they scrimmage other B1G schools.

Also Treadwell had to swallow his pride and come back at a lesser role after tripping on his dick as a HC. Good hire IMO.

Recruiting nerds, how was Treadwell with recruiting?
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Post by NigelUno on 2018-01-22, 16:40

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:What the fuck does a freshmen head coach do?

In addition, Treadwell will serve as freshmen head coach, a new title created to support first-year players in their growth and development both on and off the field.

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Post by DWags on 2018-01-22, 17:39

Floyd Robertson wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Well at face value it explains itself, but what is the job description? Will Treadwell act as head coach for all freshmen and Dantonio has little to no say in what happens with them? Is Dantonio taking on a lesser role now like a Joe Pa? Is Treadwell the next head coach?????

Wildly speculate!

You know I was kidding right? For the life of me I have no idea what that entails.

So here's my wild speculation. We're turning back the clocks on freshmen eligibility and Treadwell is their head coach when they scrimmage other B1G schools.

Less than ten years or so before your time my time Goose’s time at MSU. No freshmen were eligible. Had a freshman team. Man it was different.
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Re: 2018/19 MSU Football thread.

Post by Floyd Robertson on 2018-01-22, 17:45

DWags wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

You know I was kidding right? For the life of me I have no idea what that entails.

So here's my wild speculation. We're turning back the clocks on freshmen eligibility and Treadwell is their head coach when they scrimmage other B1G schools.

Less than ten years or so before your time my time Goose’s time at MSU. No freshmen were eligible. Had a freshman team. Man it was different.

I think a mere five before my freshmen year. 1973, wasn't it?
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Re: 2018/19 MSU Football thread.

Post by LooseGoose on 2018-01-22, 19:38

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MSU has one more opening on its football coaching staff. I anticipate another familiar name, a Spartan legacy, to fill that position.
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