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Post by LooseGoose on Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:45 pm

Some time tomorrow or Monday I've got a doozy to type up for you. But 1st a quiz.

What is the biggest political scandal in U.S. History and why?

Examp!e answer: Watergate. Because a sitting President's re-election committee broke into a DNC office trying to steal information then tried to use the power of the Presidency to cover it up.

All scandals are eligible from 1789-2017.

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Post by Cameron on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:05 am

Watergate would have been my reflexive answer, if I'm being honest. Lewinsky would probably have been second, but that's largely because nothing else readily springs to my mind. Perhaps that's an indictment on our public education system, I feel like I'm missing some obvious ones.

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Post by DWags on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:13 am

Teapot Dome.

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Post by DWags on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:18 am

American troops being used as guinea pigs walking through atomic test sites.

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Post by LooseGoose on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:27 am

Iran contra would be another contender.

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:32 am

Anything since the advent of the internet > anything before that. Depending on your definition of biggest I suppose. 

Also your definition of scandal.

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Re: Preliminary thread for those that want to play

Post by DWags on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:32 am

Credit mobilier

How about ol Tommy Jefferson and Sally Hemmings?

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Post by DWags on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:33 am

Blow job bill and the stained dress?

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Post by Cameron on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:35 am

Cameron wrote:Watergate would have been my reflexive answer, if I'm being honest. Lewinsky would probably have been second, but that's largely because nothing else readily springs to my mind. Perhaps that's an indictment on our public education system, I feel like I'm missing some obvious ones.

I like that none of you called me out for indicting the entire public education system before indicting myself for not knowing shit. Thanks, guys.


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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:36 am

The USS Maine.

Does that count as a scandal? I think it does. I mean it was a whole fuckin war. But that’s probably not really what goose is driving at.

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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:38 am

“Weapons of mass destruction”?
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Post by DWags on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:48 am

Tons of Ulysses Grant shit. Didn’t a secretary of war or state get impeached for tax evasion and corruption in some kind of whiskey ring. Grant was as bad as they come.

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Post by DWags on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:50 am

Fat Cleveland and a illigitamat kid.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:48 am

The mainstream media, in conjunction with Russian influence, duping gullible Americans into voting for a racist, bigoted admitted sexual predator with contempt for America who then began to systematically disassemble the very things that make our country exceptional.
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Re: Preliminary thread for those that want to play

Post by LooseGoose on Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:47 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:The mainstream media, in conjunction with Russian influence, duping gullible Americans into voting for a racist, bigoted admitted sexual predator with contempt for America who then began to systematically disassemble the very things that make our country exceptional.

LOL at you for even believing the media helped elect Trump in the General. I think they did during the Primary when they thought it would help Hills to have him as an opponent.


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Post by LooseGoose on Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:49 pm

Whether it really is/was the biggest political scandal in our history most people would gravitate to Watergate as their answer.

I outlined what it was in post #1 above. Does anyone argue that my description is accurate in a nutshell? Anyone that would like to expand on that description?

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Post by DWags on Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:49 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:The mainstream media, in conjunction with Russian influence, duping gullible Americans into voting for a racist, bigoted admitted sexual predator with contempt for America who then began to systematically disassemble the very things that make our country exceptional.

LOL at you for even believing the media helped elect Trump in the General. I think they did during the Primary when they thought it would help Hills to have him as an opponent.


Lots of free advertising for him. I’ll give him that. He shows up cameras wanted to cover him.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:13 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:The mainstream media, in conjunction with Russian influence, duping gullible Americans into voting for a racist, bigoted admitted sexual predator with contempt for America who then began to systematically disassemble the very things that make our country exceptional.

LOL at you for even believing the media helped elect Trump in the General. I think they did during the Primary when they thought it would help Hills to have him as an opponent.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:17 pm

DWags wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

LOL at you for even believing the media helped elect Trump in the General. I think they did during the Primary when they thought it would help Hills to have him as an opponent.


Lots of free advertising for him. I’ll give him that. He shows up cameras wanted to cover him.
yep.

The racist, bigoted sexual predator is good for ratings. Imagine how boring their shows would be if all they had to discuss was Hillary's email account.

With the racist, bigoted sexual predator, they get his America-hating rants, his race-baiting, his misogyny, his addiction to porn stars/underage girls.. the white supremacist rallies, the mass shootings, the terror attacks on American soil, etc - and the deplorables eat it up.

I don't know, but I suspect mainstream media ratings are pretty high. They knew what they were doing when they shamelessly promoted him. It's all about the corporate dollars.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:22 pm

Remember, Goose didn't vote for Trump.
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Post by Frank Ricard on Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:52 am

I think the biggest scandal was Nixon, but not for Watergate. We now know that Nixon contacted North Vietnam to hold out on peace talks until AFTER he was elected so he could cut them a better deal. This was far, far worse than watergate.

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Re: Preliminary thread for those that want to play

Post by NigelUno on Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:18 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:The mainstream media, in conjunction with Russian influence, duping gullible Americans into voting for a racist, bigoted admitted sexual predator with contempt for America who then began to systematically disassemble the very things that make our country exceptional.

LOL at you for even believing the media helped elect Trump in the General. I think they did during the Primary when they thought it would help Hills to have him as an opponent.


So...you obviously think FoxNews is just a propaganda machine (and not "the media").
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Post by GRR Spartan on Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:22 pm

Wild Bill Casey negotiated with Iran to release the hostages as Reagan was sworn in then accepted an appointment to lead the CIA.

Ollie North shredding documents in his White House office when the Iran-Contra mess was being revealed.

Tea Pot Dome with President Harding was big and may have help lead to his unfortunate fatal illness.

So much should t going on so no one is noticing Kushner’s financing deals from Israeli bankers, his encouraging Saudi Arabia’s crown prince to go hardline or getting classified information about China without a security clearance.
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Re: Preliminary thread for those that want to play

Post by Rocinante on Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:29 pm

My vote is for the Hillary Clinton’s selling off 20% of our Uranium, working with Russians to make it look like they were actually working with Trump, Using a private server to cover it up and staging the email hacking of the Dems to frame Trump.

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Post by Rocinante on Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:30 pm

And Benghazi.

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Post by Rocinante on Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:31 pm

And I’m sure the links you provide in your “doozi” will be awesome.

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:35 pm

Rocinante wrote:My vote is for the Hillary Clinton’s selling off 20% of our Uranium, working with Russians to make it look like they were actually working with Trump, Using a private server to cover it up and staging the email hacking of the Dems to frame Trump.
If it’s the #releasethememo shit then I’m gonna spend the rest of the thread posting laughing gifs

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Post by Rocinante on Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:47 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Rocinante wrote:My vote is for the Hillary Clinton’s selling off 20% of our Uranium, working with Russians to make it look like they were actually working with Trump, Using a private server to cover it up and staging the email hacking of the Dems to frame Trump.
If it’s the #releasethememo shit then I’m gonna spend the rest of the thread posting laughing gifs

Anything Devin Nunes is involved in deserves nothing but derision.

Ironically, if their intent in releasing the thing is to throw shade at the Russia investigation, it's probably going to do nothing but increase support for it, since russian bots are keeping it trending on twitter.

#kompromat

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Post by AnomanderRake on Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:41 pm

I vote for the Pentagon Papers. That scandal spanned multiple presidencies, highlighting systemic corruption and the true face of government.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:51 pm

I know it won't be this but I vote for Project MK Ultra.

Edit: I just re-read this and it was more a CIA scandal than a political scandal. Whatever, this project was still pretty fucked up.
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Post by Rocinante on Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:16 pm

Well?

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:34 pm

30 minutes. Let's hear how Clinton's e-mails or Obama's citizenship is bigger than Whitewater x Iran Contra x 1000.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:56 am

This thread has failed.
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Post by kingstonlake on Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:25 am

Bay of Pigs.
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Post by DWags on Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:51 am

Trump Hooker money payoff.

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Post by kingstonlake on Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:55 am

DWags wrote:Trump Hooker money payoff.

I don't think anyone would consider that a scandal. I mean seriously, look at the guy. It would be a scandal if it didn't happen. Same thing with Clinton sex scandals.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:55 am

Rocinante wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
If it’s the #releasethememo shit then I’m gonna spend the rest of the thread posting laughing gifs

Anything Devin Nunes is involved in deserves nothing but derision.

Ironically, if their intent in releasing the thing is to throw shade at the Russia investigation, it's probably going to do nothing but increase support for it, since russian bots are keeping it trending on twitter.

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It was this Roc. 100%. #releasethememo #devinnunesisaworldclassdipshit

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Post by LooseGoose on Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:37 am

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Remember, Goose didn't vote for Trump.

Another passive aggressive way to call me a liar. Grow a pair and say it. Then wager me on it and lose your bitcoin winnings? Let me know when you're ready.

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Post by LooseGoose on Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:38 am

I'm in no hurry on this thread - just want to get the usual suspects on the record.

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:39 am

LooseGoose wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Remember, Goose didn't vote for Trump.

Another passive aggressive way to call me a liar.   Grow a pair and say it.  Then wager me on it and lose your bitcoin winnings?    Let me know when you're ready.
You’re a liar.

Better?

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