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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2018-07-13, 22:56

Weird. How do you name an AD before you have a President?
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on 2018-07-13, 23:20

Does he approve of tailgating and other sins?

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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2018-07-14, 00:18

#1 priority for new AD - fights for your right to party.
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by MiamiSpartan on 2018-07-14, 00:38

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Weird. How do you name an AD before you have a President?
I can see why they are. It gives the current board some say in the direction of the athletic department (whether you agree or disagree with them doing anything, you can bet that is why they are naming him now). With the scrutiny that the hiring of the President will get, who knows what's going to happen and what their feelings on athletics will be. While he/she could fire Beekman, I doubt they will do that right away unless there is some strong justification.
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by tGreenWay on 2018-07-14, 01:57

Anybody know anything about this guy?
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by DWags on 2018-07-14, 06:27

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:#1 priority for new AD - fights for your right to party.

He’ll never do this and we will be light years behind .... as usual

Oklahoma State will join two other schools selling beer in their stadium.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on 2018-07-14, 07:50

Glad we held out on the uofm night game too

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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by DWags on 2018-07-14, 08:37

Look, let’s all agree MSU will never make the game day experience great for fans and alumni. If this new guys throws out five or ten more port-a-potties I’ll be pleasantly surprised
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by Heat Miser on 2018-07-14, 15:24

tGreenWay wrote:Anybody know anything about this guy?

No athletic management experience. Hope he's a short termer. I'm guessing no one in demand would take the job before a permanent president is named.
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by SawGreen on 2018-07-14, 16:10

Sad thing that I didn't even know the meaning of until my late teens. I grew up near Lansing, and school kids used to label kids "beekmans" (meaning mentally retarded) when I was in grade school because of the association with the Beekman Center.
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by tGreenWay on 2018-07-14, 17:16

Heat Miser wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Anybody know anything about this guy?

No athletic management experience. Hope he's a short termer. I'm guessing no one in demand would take the job before a permanent president is named.

That makes the most sense, Heat. The next long term AD will be likely be charged with making massive decisions on replacements for when TI and MD eventually retire.
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by Floyd Robertson on 2018-07-14, 17:35

I wondered what the guy had been up to lately.

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Post by kingstonlake on 2018-07-14, 17:44

Floyd Robertson wrote:I wondered what the guy had been up to lately.


I think the guy on the left is in jail?
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2018-07-14, 17:49

kingstonlake wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:I wondered what the guy had been up to lately.


I think the guy on the left is in jail?

Never did any time, actually. Parole and sex registry.
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by Nordic on 2018-07-14, 21:47

tGreenWay wrote:Anybody know anything about this guy?

One of the few people not to step on their dick during this whole mess. Sounds good to me.
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2018-07-14, 21:56

Harns said he did some digging today and he is told that this is not a "temporary" permanent hire but I have some doubts about that. When they get a new Prez in that may change. 

I think it's probably a good thing to appoint someone right now to help take some bullets that are probably coming and not leave D/Iz on an island with no AD support. And I hear the criticism that outside voices are needed but I think that if you need someone in there right now, an internal hire and continuity, and as Nordy said someone who hasn't royally fucked things up, probably a good thing.
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2018-07-16, 12:32

MSU taking a beating again in the press and on the social media circuit for hiring from "within".
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by DWags on 2018-07-16, 13:49

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:MSU taking a beating again in the press and on the social media circuit for hiring from "within".

I’m at the “I just don’t give a fuck what they say” point.

We could hire Marilee Dean Baker and she could have three victims as her assistants and we’d be critiqued for not putting Paula Lavign and Dan Murphy on the staff.

Fuck the torpedoes from here on out.
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2018-07-16, 13:53

DWags wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:MSU taking a beating again in the press and on the social media circuit for hiring from "within".

I’m at the “I just don’t give a fuck what they say” point.

We could hire Marilee Dean Baker and she could have three victims as her assistants and we’d be critiqued for not putting Paula Lavign and Dan Murphy on the staff.

Fuck the torpedoes from here on out.
this - there is a certain very vocal percentage that will never, ever - under any circumstances - be happy with anything.
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on 2018-07-16, 14:29

Who doesn’t take a beating on social media? Fucking losers.

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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by steveschneider on 2018-07-16, 17:26

Pretty interesting perspective. I don’t follow this shit closely enough but his ties to the current board of trustees (which has been a complete shit show) could be a concern.

https://twitter.com/justin4msu/status/1018911439300517888
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by Wally Fairway on 2018-07-17, 13:43

WKAR AM 1pm sportscast just played audio from the BOT meeting and then and interview with Beekman.

I certainly want Beekman to succeed, but to listen to the BOT meeting (and you should if they archive it) it is anything but a deep look at finding an AD. He served with the BOT for years as secretary, and the optics of promising to do a national search and stating that there were no internal candidates considered makes Engler and the BOT look like idiots or liars.


I would think that todays show will be available here, later today or tomorrow.
http://wkar.org/programs/current-sports-al-martin

I've read Harnes take on hiring - https://www.isportsweb.com/2018/07/16/opportunity-missed-spartan-stakeholders-wanted-an-outside-athletic-director-to-re-establish-trust-belief/

My biggest concern is that if the BOT can unanimously support hiring Beekman because he understands MSU and has done a great job, then what is to stop them from making the same assessment and naming Engler as permanent President???
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Post by steveschneider on 2018-07-17, 14:09

Wally Fairway wrote:WKAR AM 1pm sportscast just played audio from the BOT meeting and then and interview with Beekman.

I certainly want Beekman to succeed, but to listen to the BOT meeting (and you should if they archive it) it is anything but a deep look at finding an AD. He served with the BOT for years as secretary, and the optics of promising to do a national search and stating that there were no internal candidates considered makes Engler and the BOT look like idiots or liars.


I would think that todays show will be available here, later today or tomorrow.
http://wkar.org/programs/current-sports-al-martin

I've read Harnes take on hiring - https://www.isportsweb.com/2018/07/16/opportunity-missed-spartan-stakeholders-wanted-an-outside-athletic-director-to-re-establish-trust-belief/

My biggest concern is that if the BOT can unanimously support hiring Beekman because he understands MSU and has done a great job, then what is to stop them from making the same assessment and naming Engler as permanent President???

Thought this was a good take and similar to the points you are making.

https://twitter.com/annaliznichols/status/1019212703158669313

I’m encouraged that there’s some smart people raising their voices and getting involved to make MSU better.
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Re: MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday

Post by AvgMSUJoe on 2018-07-17, 15:05

If this is what Izzo and Dantonio want, Then this is a perfect hire.

(until they are gone)
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Post by LooseGoose on 2018-07-17, 15:24

AvgMSUJoe wrote:If this is what Izzo and Dantonio want, Then this is a perfect hire.

(until they are gone)

I suspect neither wanted an outsider eager to make his(her) mark by hiring a new coach in a major sport.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on 2018-07-17, 16:03

Listening to Beekman’s voice in some video i ran across on social media was miserable. Nails on a chalk board that made me want to fall asleep

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Post by tGreenWay on 2018-07-17, 17:27

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Listening to Beekman’s voice in some video i ran across on social media was miserable. Nails on a chalk board that made me want to fall asleep

Nails on a chalkboard make you want to fall asleep? Is that how your mother would get you to sleep, by dragging her nails on a chalkboard? That same sound makes me cringe, not sleep.
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