Re: tOfficial 2018 Midterm Election Thread..

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

Which is exactly what "the system" wants. Apathetic people are more easily bent over.

Well, it’s working.

With that being said, let’s save the bullshit and not act like voting means you’re not getting bent over.

[steveschneider]

Which is exactly what "the system" wants. Apathetic people are more easily bent over.

Well, it’s working.

People under 30 their taxes for their entire life are going to go towards paying off interests on national debt. Tell me in 20+ years how not voting worked out for your generation.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Steve Schmidt meh whatever who cares. Strangelove probably doesn’t like him because he used to be a Republican and now is vocally anti trump

Bill Maher though. Dude you should be ashamed of that. A) it’s not 1992. B) he’s not funny c) he’s a piece of shit. Fuck bill maher. That’s not “getting a diversity of opinions.” That’s watching a washed up has been trash pile of garbage.

I get it he's not your cup of tea but he still has the best panel discussion and interviews on tv.

He’s also a huge racist but that panel discussion though

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

Well, it’s working.

People under 30 their taxes for their entire life are going to go towards paying off interests on national debt. Tell me in 20+ years how not voting worked out for your generation.

Because voting will stop the government from spending.... lol.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

People under 30 their taxes for their entire life are going to go towards paying off interests on national debt. Tell me in 20+ years how not voting worked out for your generation.

Because voting will stop the government from spending.... lol.

It might stop them from giving away a trillion dollars to rich people otpt

[steveschneider]

I get it he's not your cup of tea but he still has the best panel discussion and interviews on tv.

He’s also a huge racist but that panel discussion though

Fair enough. I find most things on tv racist, and I don't fault anyone for choosing not watch a show if they feel that.

[steveschneider]

People under 30 their taxes for their entire life are going to go towards paying off interests on national debt. Tell me in 20+ years how not voting worked out for your generation.

Because voting will stop the government from spending.... lol.

Apathy dude, it's not going to fix things.

[Robert J Sakimano]

Whitmer still polling comfortably ahead of Schuette - but, if you believe polling and the mainstream media, he's made up some ground. I think there are 2 gubernatorial debates? Should be interesting.

[GRR Spartan]

People under 30 their taxes for their entire life are going to go towards paying off interests on national debt. Tell me in 20+ years how not voting worked out for your generation.

Because voting will stop the government from spending.... lol.

Spending on what has and is always the key.

Do we spend on public education, social safety net programs, infrastructure or build $95M fighters and other military hardware.

Voting may also elect a Congress that's not eager to pass tax laws that cut government revenue and also limit deductions for state taxes.

That's why you vote.

[Cameron]

I get it he's not your cup of tea but he still has the best panel discussion and interviews on tv.

He’s also a huge racist but that panel discussion though  

I didn't know Ben Affleck posted here. Neat.

[Rocinante]

Been harping on this for years. The myth of the lazy nonvoter.

The GOP has put up roadblocks to reduce access to the polls for populations that tend to vote democrat. The democrats have done nothing about it because the GOP messaging is better and people believe that nonvoters are not voting because they don't want to. That's bullshit.

Democrats need to take over the government with the roadblocks that are in place, which means big participation. Then the left of the party needs to take over the Democrats and make big changes to things like Gerrymandering, voter ID, and the electoral college. The GOP has a built in advantage with the senate giving 2 to every state, having majorities in nearly all the flyover states, and the house districts being drawn by the majority in states. Otherwise, there will never be a true progressive majority in the government (which would reflect the population by the way - 60% of Americans lean more progressive than conservative, and yet... this is the government we have).

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/05/opinion/midterm-election-voter-turnout-photo-id.html

[Robert J Sakimano]

Yep - America is a (lazy) stupid country.

[Robert J Sakimano]

Once all the racist old people die, progressive folks might stand a chance - but the young electorate needs to engage. That has a lot to do with parenting and how children are raised, what they value.

[Jake from State Farm]

Once all the racist old people die, progressive folks might stand a chance - but the young electorate needs to engage. That has a lot to do with parenting and how children are raised, what they value.

So we'll have even less people going to the polls.

https://www.npr.org/2016/05/16/478237882/millennials-now-rival-boomers-as-a-political-force-but-will-they-actually-vote

[Frank Ricard]

Dems must win the House. That's critical. I won't sleep that night until i know the results. Repubs might keep senate, but that's like someone bragging they won the 100 yard dash with a 95 yard head start.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

were making a change to gerrymandering in Michigan this year Roc (you know, hopefully.)

[Robert J Sakimano]

Once all the racist old people die, progressive folks might stand a chance - but the young electorate needs to engage. That has a lot to do with parenting and how children are raised, what they value.

So we'll have even less people going to the polls.

https://www.npr.org/2016/05/16/478237882/millennials-now-rival-boomers-as-a-political-force-but-will-they-actually-vote

that's the thing.

America leans left - but the GOP and mainstream media do everything they can to suppress the vote.

Not blaming them, necessarily - I mean, nobody ever accused either entity of doing what's best for America - and people are wilfully stupid.

Still.. we'll see.

[Rocinante]

were making a change to gerrymandering in Michigan this year Roc (you know, hopefully.)

Hm. I didn’t know that. What kind of change?

[Rocinante]

Well, it’s working.

With that being said, let’s save the bullshit and not act like voting means you’re not getting bent over.

Voting at this point is a means to an end. Get Democrats in power, then take over the party and actually do something.

[Robert J Sakimano]

Whitmer is hovering around anywhere from 8-10 pts ahead of Schuette..  that seems a little high, though I do think she'll win.. I suspect by 3-5% or so.

apparently there is a debate this Friday - though I can't imagine why someone would want to watch such a thing.

[DWags]

Senate is still fucked. I think the pubs gain a seat.

[Robert J Sakimano]

GOP gains 2 Senate seats.

Thanks to stupid Americans and the mainstream media.

[Floyd Robertson]

Slotkin vs. Bishop who you got in Michigan's 8th? I'm not even in that district but those are the commercials I'm most tired of seeing.

[DWags]

Ex student is a Bishop campaign worker or some such shut. I don’t know his exact job. . Kid was a weasel in high school. Ratted people out for weed possession and other things. I friended him on Facebook a few years ago. Seems the type to be a campaign type guy. Not out in front but a little weasel behind the scenes. Don’t know if he’s changed but he was a source in high school for information if shit was happening.

[Robert J Sakimano]

I like Slotkin's stance on healthcare and valuing life - otherwise, she is pretty right-leaning.

The district is incredibly gerrymandered all the way to Howell (KKK territory). Bishop probably wins by 3-5 points.

[Floyd Robertson]

I like Slotkin's stance on healthcare and valuing life - otherwise, she is pretty right-leaning.

The district is incredibly gerrymandered all the way to Howell (KKK territory). Bishop probably wins by 3-5 points.

The polls currently seem to indicate Bishop has about that much of a lead.

[Robert J Sakimano]

I like Slotkin's stance on healthcare and valuing life - otherwise, she is pretty right-leaning.

The district is incredibly gerrymandered all the way to Howell (KKK territory). Bishop probably wins by 3-5 points.

The polls currently seem to indicate Bishop has about that much of a lead.

haven't checked polling lately - and I'm always kind of skeptical of it - but it sounds about right.

[Jake from State Farm]

One of the persons up for election next month actually stopped by my house. First time that's ever happened to me where I live now. Kelly Rossman-McKinney, running for State Senator 24th District, Democratic Party.

[kingstonlake]

In northern Michigan it's all about LIEUTENANT GENERAL Jack Bergman. In case you missed it, he was a LIEUTENANT GENERAL. Probably shouldn't be politicizing service but in case you missed it and in commercials he's a LIEUTENANT GENERAL.

[Robert J Sakimano]

y'all see this yet? Schuette addressing a female before an interview..

creepy as hell.. and certainly explains how he and the racist, bigoted sexual predator are such good pals.




makes my skin crawl.

[Robert J Sakimano]

for those "blue wave" folks..

Rick Klein
‏Verified account @rickklein

Democrats have a 53-42 percent edge in the generic ballot for the House. But inside the 66 districts that are tossups, or only leaning, that lead evaporates into a 46-47 D v. R race.

(I'm sure whoever this guy is, he's somehow affiliated with the mainstream media - so beware.. but not looking great for the Democrats, unless they have a huge turnout).

[Rocinante]

for those "blue wave" folks..

Rick Klein
‏Verified account @rickklein

Democrats have a 53-42 percent edge in the generic ballot for the House. But inside the 66 districts that are tossups, or only leaning, that lead evaporates into a 46-47 D v. R race.

(I'm sure whoever this guy is, he's somehow affiliated with the mainstream media - so beware.. but not looking great for the Democrats, unless they have a huge turnout).

This is why turnout has to be great. It just has to be. The R's have a huge organizational advantage and are ready. This election is a turning point in American history. That can't be overstated.

[Robert J Sakimano]

for those "blue wave" folks..



(I'm sure whoever this guy is, he's somehow affiliated with the mainstream media - so beware.. but not looking great for the Democrats, unless they have a huge turnout).

This is why turnout has to be great. It just has to be. The R's have a huge organizational advantage and are ready. This election is a turning point in American history. That can't be overstated.

yep - and the knuckle-draggin' religious kooks vote. What else do they have to do all day??

Dems take 12-15 House seats, lose 2 Senate seats.

[steveschneider]

for those "blue wave" folks..

Rick Klein
‏Verified account @rickklein

Democrats have a 53-42 percent edge in the generic ballot for the House. But inside the 66 districts that are tossups, or only leaning, that lead evaporates into a 46-47 D v. R race.

(I'm sure whoever this guy is, he's somehow affiliated with the mainstream media - so beware.. but not looking great for the Democrats, unless they have a huge turnout).

Dems suck. I'm going to vote straight ticket dem but watching the ads in my district from the dems vs their Republican opponents I can see why one side wins and the other loses. The messaging is weak and the candidates are just a bunch of weenies.

Also, regarding the dems I appreciate that they are sticking to the issues in their ads (the ads I see) but I just don't think people really care about the issues.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

for those "blue wave" folks..

Rick Klein
‏Verified account @rickklein

Democrats have a 53-42 percent edge in the generic ballot for the House. But inside the 66 districts that are tossups, or only leaning, that lead evaporates into a 46-47 D v. R race.

(I'm sure whoever this guy is, he's somehow affiliated with the mainstream media - so beware.. but not looking great for the Democrats, unless they have a huge turnout).

Bob, take a second to re read that tweet and think about what it means.

“Inside of the districts that are considered toss ups.... they are in fact toss ups.” Like, he just told you what the word toss up means.

[Robert J Sakimano]

for those "blue wave" folks..



(I'm sure whoever this guy is, he's somehow affiliated with the mainstream media - so beware.. but not looking great for the Democrats, unless they have a huge turnout).

Bob, take a second to re read that tweet and think about what it means.

“Inside of the districts that are considered toss ups.... they are in fact toss ups.” Like, he just told you what the word toss up means.

I'm not very smart.. I'm just telling you my interpretation of it.

[Robert J Sakimano]

for those "blue wave" folks..



(I'm sure whoever this guy is, he's somehow affiliated with the mainstream media - so beware.. but not looking great for the Democrats, unless they have a huge turnout).

Dems suck. I'm going to vote straight ticket dem but watching the ads in my district from the dems vs their Republican opponents I can see why one side wins and the other loses. The messaging is weak and the candidates are just a bunch of weenies.

Also, regarding the dems I appreciate that they are sticking to the issues in their ads (the ads I see) but I just don't think people really care about the issues.

agree - Democrats tend to be too nice, too polite - they actually care about America and the issues facing Americans.

Republicans only care about one thing: Power. And they will squash every minority group along the way to make certain they retain it.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Bob, take a second to re read that tweet and think about what it means.

“Inside of the districts that are considered toss ups.... they are in fact toss ups.” Like, he just told you what the word toss up means.

I'm not very smart.. I'm just telling you my interpretation of it.

“Of all the games in college football this week, the average margin of victory was 20 points. But if you only look at the games that were tied with a minute left, the average margin of victory was only 3 points.”

I mean, yeah. Duh. That’s what that tweet is saying. If you’re going to isolate only the close races, the more interesting question is of those races which party are the incumbents from? This will show you, with slightly different total numbers of what’s considered a toss up, the ones in the middle are almost entirely republican held seats.

https://www.cookpolitical.com/ratings/house-race-ratings

[Robert J Sakimano]

I'm not very smart.. I'm just telling you my interpretation of it.

“Of all the games in college football this week, the average margin of victory was 20 points. But if you only look at the games that were tied with a minute left, the average margin of victory was only 3 points.”

I mean, yeah. Duh. That’s what that tweet is saying. If you’re going to isolate only the close races, the more interesting question is of those races which party are the incumbents from? This will show you, with slightly different total numbers of what’s considered a toss up, the ones in the middle are almost entirely republican held seats.

https://www.cookpolitical.com/ratings/house-race-ratings

that's cool - I appreciate you explaining it to me.

(seriously)

I understood it as Democrats having this overwhelming "excitement" factor but, when you examine districts that are considered "toss ups", they're going to have to be exponentially "excited" to overcome the inherent disadvantage of the gerrymandered district.

man, I just drink beer, listen to music, work out every now and then and take naps.. you can only expect so much from a dude like me.  

[Robert J Sakimano]

Republican taking on Sen. Stabenow has to apologize for having a swastika in his campaign ad..

In a brief shot, roughly 10 seconds into the ad, a swastika appears tacked to a bulletin board in a hallway of an unidentified school. It wasn't clear if it was part of a school history project or something else, but the campaign said it was from stock footage.


Democrats and liberal groups complained that James, a Farmington Hills businessman and Iraq War veteran, was promoting a symbol of hatred as he seeks to unseat incumbent Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow of Lansing, who is running for a fourth term.

"We should have caught this error and we didn’t, and there’s no excuse," he said at a Monday afternoon press conference.

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