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Post by Heat Miser 2018-11-13, 10:08

Police Fatally Shoot Black Security Guard Who Detained Shooting Suspect
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Post by StylesGShmooth 2018-11-13, 11:34

Paid vacation.  Regretful but not criminal, no consequences.  Smear campaign on the victim coming soon.  Move on.  

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Post by Jake from State Farm 2018-11-13, 12:15

Smear campaign? The victims are usually the best and brightest and on the verge of curing cancer.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2018-11-13, 12:19

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Post by DWags 2018-11-13, 12:37

In this case, the victim was studying to be a cop. So, there's that.
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Post by Rocinante 2018-11-13, 13:44

Jake from State Farm wrote:Smear campaign? The victims are usually the best and brightest and on the verge of curing cancer.

Fuck off with this shit.
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Post by Jake from State Farm 2018-11-13, 13:58

Rocinante wrote:
Jake from State Farm wrote:Smear campaign? The victims are usually the best and brightest and on the verge of curing cancer.

Fuck off with this shit.

nm, I have way too much time on my hands today.
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Post by StylesGShmooth 2018-11-14, 12:57

...and here we go.  

The fuckery begins

Wonder if they searched the victims house and found any weed yet.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2018-11-14, 14:05

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2018-11-14, 15:18

StylesGShmooth wrote:...and here we go.  

The fuckery begins

Wonder if they searched the victims house and found any weed yet.
I’m shocked that police would lie after they murder someone to protect themselves. Shocked.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2018-11-14, 15:28

No witness. No crime.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2018-11-14, 15:31

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:No witness. No crime.
Lots of witnesses. Still no crime.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2018-11-14, 15:50

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:No witness. No crime.
Lots of witnesses. Still no crime.

You're gonna witness me putting a boot in your ass.

...sorry, it's been a while since I yelled at you.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2018-11-14, 17:09

I saw this thread title and assumed his was black. Of course I was correct.

America has always been a racist country, but things aren't going to get any better until the GOP and the mainstream media stop perpetuating and normalizing racism and bigotry.



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Post by Heat Miser 2018-11-15, 01:03

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I saw this thread title and assumed his was black. Of course I was correct.

America has always been a racist country, but things aren't going to get any better until the GOP and the mainstream media stop perpetuating and normalizing racism and bigotry.


I considered putting it in the title but figured everybody would know it automagically.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2018-11-15, 06:11

Heat Miser wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I saw this thread title and assumed his was black. Of course I was correct.

America has always been a racist country, but things aren't going to get any better until the GOP and the mainstream media stop perpetuating and normalizing racism and bigotry.


I considered putting it in the title but figured everybody would know it automagically.
yeah - I guess it's news when the victim isn't black
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Post by kingstonlake 2018-11-15, 08:20

Old news. That porn lawyer got arrested. Next.
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Post by Clarett's Folly 2018-11-15, 08:26

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
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I considered putting it in the title but figured everybody would know it automagically.
yeah - I guess it's news when the victim isn't black

I'm not so sure about that. The name Daniel Shaver won't ring a bell for a lot of people. I think it's more; cops kill civilian, say he wasn't following directions/thought he had a gun, and everyone shrugs and moves on.
It seems like we're getting to a point where we have to evaluate if cops should actually have guns.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2018-11-15, 08:36

Clarett's Folly wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: yeah - I guess it's news when the victim isn't black

I'm not so sure about that. The name Daniel Shaver won't ring a bell for a lot of people. I think it's more; cops kill civilian, say he wasn't following directions/thought he had a gun, and everyone shrugs and moves on.
It seems like we're getting to a point where we have to evaluate if cops should actually have guns.
yeah - can't even fully trust the "good" guys with a gun.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2018-11-15, 08:37

Clarett's Folly wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
yeah - I guess it's news when the victim isn't black

I'm not so sure about that. The name Daniel Shaver won't ring a bell for a lot of people. I think it's more; cops kill civilian, say he wasn't following directions/thought he had a gun, and everyone shrugs and moves on.
It seems like we're getting to a point where we have to evaluate if cops should actually have guns.
We don’t have to evaluate. They shouldn’t. Or if they do they should be locked up in their trunk and they should be suspended if they take them out and only cleared to return to duty upon a full non partial (ie not their department) investigation that shows that it was fully justified.
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Post by Clarett's Folly 2018-11-15, 08:41

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
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I'm not so sure about that. The name Daniel Shaver won't ring a bell for a lot of people. I think it's more; cops kill civilian, say he wasn't following directions/thought he had a gun, and everyone shrugs and moves on.
It seems like we're getting to a point where we have to evaluate if cops should actually have guns.
yeah - can't even fully trust the "good" guys with a gun.

Whenever someone brings up the "good guy with a gun" argument I typically point out the death of Chris Kyle. Kyle was killed at a shooting range in proximity of his own gun by a shooter much less skilled and trained than he was.
If the American fucking Sniper can't win a gunfight at a shooting range with a nutjob who decided to kill him what chance do any of us have?
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Post by StylesGShmooth 2018-11-15, 15:20

Clarett's Folly wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
yeah - I guess it's news when the victim isn't black

I'm not so sure about that. The name Daniel Shaver won't ring a bell for a lot of people. I think it's more; cops kill civilian, say he wasn't following directions/thought he had a gun, and everyone shrugs and moves on.
It seems like we're getting to a point where we have to evaluate if cops should actually have guns.
  

The Daniel Shaver shooting is one of the most sad things I've ever seen.  They executed that kid while he begged for his life.  How that jury let that murderer go I have no idea.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2018-11-15, 21:36

Clarett's Folly wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: yeah - can't even fully trust the "good" guys with a gun.

Whenever someone brings up the "good guy with a gun" argument I typically point out the death of Chris Kyle. Kyle was killed at a shooting range in proximity of his own gun by a shooter much less skilled and trained than he was.
If the American fucking Sniper can't win a gunfight at a shooting range with a nutjob who decided to kill him what chance do any of us have?
I know - I'm mocking the whole American terrorist slogan of "only a good guy with a gun can kill a bad guy with a gun" - simply shows how distorted their views are - weren't 3-4 cops shot in the Philadelphia synagogue right wing MAGA terror attack a few weeks back?


yeah - fact is, "good guys" with guns and "bad guys" with guns are only good for one thing - more guns. And that's what the NRA - America's Terrorist Organization - wants. It's why they celebrate mass shootings.
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Post by DWags 2018-11-16, 05:58

Clarett's Folly wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: yeah - can't even fully trust the "good" guys with a gun.

Whenever someone brings up the "good guy with a gun" argument I typically point out the death of Chris Kyle. Kyle was killed at a shooting range in proximity of his own gun by a shooter much less skilled and trained than he was.
If the American fucking Sniper can't win a gunfight at a shooting range with a nutjob who decided to kill him what chance do any of us have?


So I lost a bunch of friends on Facebook after the night club shooting last week when these idiots started saying “notice how another shooting happened at a no gun zone”. I had just seen a picture of some of the college kids who had been killed. I went off. I asked them if they were actually advocating drunk 21 year olds having guns in a dark bar when one starts shooting randoms? What kind of chaos would follow? I told them what kind of fucking idiots they were and could only hope that someday they were in a bar full of alcohol and guns.

Oops. One called me a shit show.
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Post by kingstonlake 2018-11-16, 08:15

StylesGShmooth wrote:
Clarett's Folly wrote:

I'm not so sure about that. The name Daniel Shaver won't ring a bell for a lot of people. I think it's more; cops kill civilian, say he wasn't following directions/thought he had a gun, and everyone shrugs and moves on.
It seems like we're getting to a point where we have to evaluate if cops should actually have guns.
  

The Daniel Shaver shooting is one of the most sad things I've ever seen.  They executed that kid while he begged for his life.  How that jury let that murderer go I have no idea.

Yeah that was murder.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2018-11-16, 09:03

Clarett's Folly wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: yeah - can't even fully trust the "good" guys with a gun.

Whenever someone brings up the "good guy with a gun" argument I typically point out the death of Chris Kyle. Kyle was killed at a shooting range in proximity of his own gun by a shooter much less skilled and trained than he was.
If the American fucking Sniper can't win a gunfight at a shooting range with a nutjob who decided to kill him what chance do any of us have?

Chris Kyle’s murder exposed the inconvenient fact that all of us, regardless of training or experience can be a fatality if the killer wants you dead. The killing isn’t the hard part. Getting away with it is.

The NRA has done a helluva job convincing Americans we aren’t safe and have cynically locked arms with politicians and opinion makers who constantly tell anyone who will listen the government has failed so it’s up to every man (or woman) to protect themselves with guns.

The last mass shooter in CA walked into the bar with a pistol.......equipped with a 30 rd clip.

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