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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2020-02-06, 09:32

NigelUno wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Pump the breaks. Rico saying it ain’t happening. Kind of makes sense everyone is asleep at those hours that it was “finalized”. No confirmation from any msm writer either.

There are a lot of reasons it wouldn't be announced this fast.

What time is Valenti on?

Kidding.

Let me check with Staudt first.

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Post by CORNER BLITZ on 2020-02-06, 09:38

Is someone on the BoT pushing Marvin Lewis?
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 2020-02-06, 09:39

Probably some posturing going on. Fickell was probably (rightly) thinking that he was the only real choice, which strengthens his position, so it might make sense for MSU to say, Nah, we are still looking around.
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Post by DWags on 2020-02-06, 09:40

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I trust Comp way more than Rico. Comp is still saying it without saying it. Expect it to happen today.


FTR, I called Dantonio to MSU three years before Comp did.
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Post by NigelUno on 2020-02-06, 09:40

CORNER BLITZ wrote:Is someone on the BoT pushing Marvin Lewis?

He would have been a great hire.

And speaking of...

Marvin Lewis elevated to co-DC at Arizona State
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 2020-02-06, 09:41

CORNER BLITZ wrote:Is someone on the BoT pushing Marvin Lewis?
Yes. Guess who?

Though that may have been just suggesting him as a candidate, as Duzzi, Saleh, and others were bandied about by the BOT. There's nothing Ive read to indicate that it is a big fight over it, though.
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Post by NigelUno on 2020-02-06, 09:41

MiamiSpartan wrote:Probably some posturing going on. Fickell was probably (rightly) thinking that he was the only real choice, which strengthens his position, so it might make sense for MSU to say, Nah, we are still looking around.

Your theory is we offered him the job, then took it back?

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Post by DWags on 2020-02-06, 09:43

CORNER BLITZ wrote:Is someone on the BoT pushing Marvin Lewis?

If you had to guess, and there was one chance you had to get it right, and if you got it wrong, you got a nut cut off. Who on the current board would you think maybe is pushing that name? hmmmm, one guess. ..... just one, no fair running down the members you don't know or have heard of.... just one guess.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2020-02-06, 09:45

DWags wrote:
CORNER BLITZ wrote:Is someone on the BoT pushing Marvin Lewis?

If you had to guess, and there was one chance you had to get it right, and if you got it wrong, you got a nut cut off. Who on the current board would you think maybe is pushing that name? hmmmm, one guess. ..... just one, no fair running down the members you don't know or have heard of.... just one guess.

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Who keeps voting for this guy?
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Post by AvgMSUJoe on 2020-02-06, 09:50

They need to interview 3 minorities and an equal amount of women to make this official, right? Maybe that is why it will take a while.
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Post by InTenSity on 2020-02-06, 09:51

Holy shit there are a lot of handringers on the other board. I don't know how some of you do it.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-02-06, 09:54

NigelUno wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Pump the breaks. Rico saying it ain’t happening. Kind of makes sense everyone is asleep at those hours that it was “finalized”. No confirmation from any msm writer either.

There are a lot of reasons it wouldn't be announced this fast.

What time is Valenti on?

Kidding.

Let me check with Staudt first.

Important lesson this morning it's better to be right than first. Freep reporting probably won't have a hire until next week.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe on 2020-02-06, 09:55

What other national outrage can occur due to this hire?

You kid about survivor Rachel, but I'd bet there is a fine tooth comb going over social media and whatnot right now. Of course Fickle has been in the public eye since forever... So, should be easy.

(Not like you fuckers... Imagine the team of professionals required to go over your online presence.)
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2020-02-06, 10:02

DWags wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I trust Comp way more than Rico. Comp is still saying it without saying it. Expect it to happen today.


FTR, I called Dantonio to MSU three years before Comp did.

I remember that. My reference in the OP was a call back to you posting "I hope your stay is a short one" when JLS was hired. Welcome Coach Fickell - Page 2 502811600

Honestly reading between the lines right now I think it comes out today that there is an agreement in place and he's the next HC. Comp mentioned potentially clearing his calendar for a pc tomorrow. Others are saying maybe Monday. But yes I think we will know he is our HC today and everyone is mostly on the same page here and it would take a monumental fuck up for this not to happen at this stage.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe on 2020-02-06, 10:05

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
DWags wrote:


FTR, I called Dantonio to MSU three years before Comp did.

I remember that. My reference in the OP was a call back to you posting "I hope your stay is a short one" when JLS was hired. Welcome Coach Fickell - Page 2 502811600

Honestly reading between the lines right now I think it comes out today that there is an agreement in place and he's the next HC. Comp mentioned potentially clearing his calendar for a pc tomorrow. Others are saying maybe Monday. But yes I think we will know he is our HC today and everyone is mostly on the same page here and it would take a monumental fuck up for this not to happen at this stage.
serious about the minority candidates... They don't interview a number, articles will be written. (ESPNs next bash piece)
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on 2020-02-06, 10:06

AvgJoe channeling his insecure white guy schtick nicely in this thread
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2020-02-06, 10:21

AvgMSUJoe wrote:What other national outrage can occur due to this hire?

You kid about survivor Rachel, but I'd bet there is a fine tooth comb going over social media and whatnot right now. Of course Fickle has been in the public eye since forever... So, should be easy.

(Not like you fuckers... Imagine the team of professionals required to go over your online presence.)

I would have to pull a g-host and have my entire posting history erased.
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 2020-02-06, 10:30

NigelUno wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:Probably some posturing going on. Fickell was probably (rightly) thinking that he was the only real choice, which strengthens his position, so it might make sense for MSU to say, Nah, we are still looking around.

Your theory is we offered him the job, then took it back?

No, are you showing your reading incomprehension again? I'm not sure how suggesting that we have other options, so he can't hold our feet to the fire, equates to pulling an offer.


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Post by MiamiSpartan on 2020-02-06, 10:36

AvgMSUJoe wrote:What other national outrage can occur due to this hire?

You kid about survivor Rachel, but I'd bet there is a fine tooth comb going over social media and whatnot right now. Of course Fickle has been in the public eye since forever... So, should be easy.

(Not like you fuckers... Imagine the team of professionals required to go over your online presence.)
Honestly, this is a brilliant point. I had heard that he was the only candidate that had already been vetted through the AD, donors, and BOT, but it would probably be smart to scour any possible police reports, social media, etc. Heck, can we get Kathy Redmond to go on record as to whether she has any made up mafia boss-like scenarios yet for Fickell?
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Post by NigelUno on 2020-02-06, 10:58

MiamiSpartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Your theory is we offered him the job, then took it back?

No, are you showing your reading incomprehension again? I'm not sure how suggesting that we have other options, so he can't hold our feet to the fire, equates to pulling an offer.

Nope. Read and comprehended your post just fine.

Your theory is this is stalled because Fickell wants more money (because his position is strong), and we told him...hey we have other options. So, we haven’t offered him the job yet? Is that part of your theory also?

We have other options isn’t a great negotiating tactic.



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Post by steveschneider on 2020-02-06, 11:00

Just want to point out it's hilarious the guy that 'can't imagine anyone would listen to Valenti' even though I've repeatedly pointed out I don't, is posting inaccurate breaking 'news' he found off of an internet forum. Welcome Coach Fickell - Page 2 502811600
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Post by NigelUno on 2020-02-06, 11:01

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:AvgJoe channeling his insecure white guy schtick nicely in this thread

Think he was mostly kidding, but there are formalities involved in posting jobs and hiring people at a public university. They might apply in this case.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2020-02-06, 11:06

Do we have a coach yet or no I’m confused
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Post by Rocinante on 2020-02-06, 11:06

This thread could use a #SKULLFUCK
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2020-02-06, 11:09

NigelUno wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:
No, are you showing your reading incomprehension again? I'm not sure how suggesting that we have other options, so he can't hold our feet to the fire, equates to pulling an offer.

Nope. Read and comprehended your post just fine.

Your theory is this is stalled because Fickell wants more money (because his position is strong), and we told him...hey we have other options. So, we haven’t offered him the job yet? Is that part of your theory also?

We have other options isn’t a great negotiating tactic.




So we don't have any other options? That's too bad.
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Post by NigelUno on 2020-02-06, 11:09

steveschneider wrote:Just want to point out it's hilarious the guy that 'can't imagine anyone would listen to Valenti' even though I've repeatedly pointed out I don't, is posting inaccurate breaking 'news' he found off of an internet forum. Welcome Coach Fickell - Page 2 502811600

It’s not necessarily inaccurate. It’s just not public info.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on 2020-02-06, 11:10

Make the deal!!!
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Post by NigelUno on 2020-02-06, 11:11

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Nope. Read and comprehended your post just fine.

Your theory is this is stalled because Fickell wants more money (because his position is strong), and we told him...hey we have other options. So, we haven’t offered him the job yet? Is that part of your theory also?

We have other options isn’t a great negotiating tactic.




So we don't have any other options? That's too bad.

Almost as bad as your lack of reading comprehension.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2020-02-06, 11:14

NigelUno wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

So we don't have any other options? That's too bad.

Almost as bad as your lack of reading comprehension.

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Sorry you don't know how to explain your position with words. :(
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-02-06, 11:15

NigelUno wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Just want to point out it's hilarious the guy that 'can't imagine anyone would listen to Valenti' even though I've repeatedly pointed out I don't, is posting inaccurate breaking 'news' he found off of an internet forum. Welcome Coach Fickell - Page 2 502811600

It’s not necessarily inaccurate. ┬áIt’s just not public info.

Possible, but I don't think any of us really know. Just pointing out it's absurd that someone who is condescending to anyone for listening to Valenti (I don't) iis pumping out message board rumors.

Also -

"It's likely there won't be a new head football coach at Michigan State University until sometime early next week, multiple sources with knowledge of the search told the Free Press"
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-02-06, 11:18

I've been in a mind-numbing meeting...

is it official yet?

(and by "official", I mean has Hondo been asked to leave the breakfast buffet, thereby getting back to his blog that screams "I wuz homeskooled").

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Post by NigelUno on 2020-02-06, 11:23

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Almost as bad as your lack of reading comprehension.

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Sorry you don't know how to explain your position with words. :(

Sorry you developed a position (for me) based on your reading comprehension (or lack thereof).
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Post by NigelUno on 2020-02-06, 11:25

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I've been in a mind-numbing meeting...

is it official yet?

(and by "official", I mean has Hondo been asked to leave the breakfast buffet, thereby getting back to his blog that screams "I wuz homeskooled").


Staudt said he’ll believe it when he sees it. Obviously in the Steve camp. At any rate...
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-02-06, 11:26



Asked an MSU source last night if the Wednesday evening rumors of Fickell to MSU was a done deal or close to it were legit or fluff. Answer: “Fluff.” As
@reporterdavidj
wrote this morning, though, the Cincy coach remains the Spartans’ top candidate to replace Mark Dantonio.

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Post by Heat Miser on 2020-02-06, 11:28

At this point, if it ends up NOT being Fickell...

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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on 2020-02-06, 11:30

Heat Miser wrote:At this point, if it ends up NOT being Fickell...

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Fickell or bust. Who the fuck else would be any sort of spark for this program? The niners d coord?
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Post by DWags on 2020-02-06, 11:31

Heat Miser wrote:At this point, if it ends up NOT being Fickell...

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Who would be the biggest villain and enemy of the people?

Beekman, Dantonio, or Fickell.
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 2020-02-06, 11:36

NigelUno wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:
No, are you showing your reading incomprehension again? I'm not sure how suggesting that we have other options, so he can't hold our feet to the fire, equates to pulling an offer.

Nope. Read and comprehended your post just fine.

Your theory is this is stalled because Fickell wants more money (because his position is strong), and we told him...hey we have other options. So, we haven’t offered him the job yet? Is that part of your theory also?

We have other options isn’t a great negotiating tactic.



Still not sure how saying that he's not the only one that we would look at means that there's no offer, or that the offer has been pulled. But whatever helps create an argument in your head.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe on 2020-02-06, 11:38

NigelUno wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:AvgJoe channeling his insecure white guy schtick nicely in this thread

Think he was mostly kidding, but there are formalities involved in posting jobs and hiring people at a public university. They might apply in this case.

Mostly. But I have been in waste of time interviews.

That said, I guarantee we will read an article about diversity... and survivors.
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