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Post by steveschneider on 2/25/2020, 11:32 am

Cameron wrote:Politico - Bloomberg’s debate strategy: Nuke Bernie

Odds Bloomberg tries to blame Bernie Bros for the vandalism?

Hmm conspiracy theories from a Rogan fan. You been drinking some tumeric coffee this morning?
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Post by NigelUno on 2/25/2020, 4:05 pm

Bernie loves dictators!
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Post by Rocinante on 2/25/2020, 5:22 pm

Poo flingers.
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Post by NigelUno on 2/25/2020, 5:42 pm

Bernie's not really a Democrat!
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Post by steveschneider on 2/25/2020, 6:08 pm

Lets hope Biden steps it up and ends the malarky tonight.
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Post by Rocinante on 2/25/2020, 8:34 pm

Bernie has secret rape fantasies!!!
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Post by steveschneider on 2/25/2020, 10:15 pm

steveschneider wrote:Lets hope Biden steps it up and ends the malarky tonight.

Biden won!!!! MSU won!!!! Let’s go!!!
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Post by NigelUno on 2/26/2020, 7:26 am

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Post by steveschneider on 2/26/2020, 7:56 am

Bernie seemed flustered and fumbled around on the commie Castro attacks.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2/26/2020, 9:12 am

I feel bad for people who watch that garbage.
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Post by steveschneider on 2/26/2020, 9:51 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I feel bad for people who watch that garbage.

You didn't miss anything last night. CBS sucks.
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2/26/2020, 10:31 am

Bernie's wife was interviewed on Russian TV? WTAF? There are some things you just say no to.
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 2/26/2020, 12:53 pm

steveschneider wrote:Bernie seemed flustered and fumbled around on the commie Castro attacks.
Sadly, in this day and age, despite such a growing diversity and intermingling of peoples, we're somehow expected to be more binary than ever before.  Context, nuance, and any grey areas be damned, you have to be 100%, or else you're 0%.  If you say that Castro improved literacy rates, it somehow means that you support his torturing, murdering, and overall oppression. It's like this on just about every issue, and this board is far from immune to it.
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Post by Cameron on 2/26/2020, 1:05 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Bernie seemed flustered and fumbled around on the commie Castro attacks.
Sadly, in this day and age, despite such a growing diversity and intermingling of peoples, we're somehow expected to be more binary than ever before.  Context, nuance, and any grey areas be damned, you have to be 100%, or else you're 0%.  If you say that Castro improved literacy rates, it somehow means that you support his torturing, murdering, and overall oppression. It's like this on just about every issue, and this board is far from immune to it.

Yet some people have the nerve to accuse progressives of implementing "purity tests," as if it's the exclusive province of any one candidate or faction.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2/26/2020, 1:51 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:Bernie's wife was interviewed on Russian TV? WTAF? There are some things you just say no to.
the current president colluded with Russia to win an election


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Post by NigelUno on 2/26/2020, 2:14 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:Bernie's wife was interviewed on Russian TV? WTAF? There are some things you just say no to.
the current president colluded with Russia to win an election



So?

The US has meddled in other nation's elections. - Trump, Guest, Bernie
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Post by steveschneider on 2/26/2020, 4:25 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Bernie seemed flustered and fumbled around on the commie Castro attacks.
Sadly, in this day and age, despite such a growing diversity and intermingling of peoples, we're somehow expected to be more binary than ever before.  Context, nuance, and any grey areas be damned, you have to be 100%, or else you're 0%.  If you say that Castro improved literacy rates, it somehow means that you support his torturing, murdering, and overall oppression. It's like this on just about every issue, and this board is far from immune to it.

We all know that but it's still not a winning take to praise Castro when trying to get elected as US president. To quote Bob America is a very stupid country and for him to keep doubling down and pitch out the virtues of the Cuban literacy program is a losing move.
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Post by Rocinante on 2/27/2020, 10:25 am

Bloomberg, Klobuchar, Steyer, and Buttigieg do not have a realistic path to the nomination all of them need to get out. All they are doing is handing the nomination to Bernie. If you moderates want a moderate that’s what you should be demanding.


Also, Bernie is a moderate in 90% of the developed world.
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Post by InTenSity on 2/27/2020, 12:21 pm

Rocinante wrote:Bloomberg, Klobuchar, Steyer, and Buttigieg do not have a realistic path to the nomination all of them need to get out. All they are doing is handing the nomination to Bernie. If you moderates want a moderate that’s what you should be demanding.


Also, Bernie is a moderate in 90% of the developed world.
Well the guy I golfed with yesterday, who apparently was a former MSU grad, can't believe the Democrats are about to put a Socialist up for election. He thinks that Bernie is just promising all sorts of free stuff. Millennials don't work and the whole 10 yards. I kept quiet, because it is useless to even try to talk to anyone who isn't sure if reading newspapers is unbiased.
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Post by Cameron on 2/27/2020, 12:45 pm

Rocinante wrote:Bloomberg, Klobuchar, Steyer, and Buttigieg do not have a realistic path to the nomination all of them need to get out. All they are doing is handing the nomination to Bernie.  If you moderates want a moderate that’s what you should be demanding.  


Also, Bernie is a moderate in 90% of the developed world.  

I expect them all to hang on through super Tuesday hoping for a miracle, but I think you nailed the list of candidates who need to pack it in. Bloomberg is the most ridiculous to me, he's spent hundreds of millions of dollars and is already basically out of it before even appearing on a single ballot. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the distance, though, he seems stubborn enough to sink another half billion into this.
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Post by steveschneider on 2/27/2020, 12:48 pm

Biden is crushing it in South Carolina. Epic comeback here we go.
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Post by Cameron on 2/27/2020, 12:50 pm

steveschneider wrote:Biden is crushing it in South Carolina. Epic comeback here we go.

Define "crushing it," please. I don't think it was that long ago that he was up 20+ points in SC according to the polling data, but last I saw he was up less than 5 points on Bernie with Steyer a decently close third.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2/27/2020, 1:02 pm

InTenSity wrote:
Rocinante wrote:Bloomberg, Klobuchar, Steyer, and Buttigieg do not have a realistic path to the nomination all of them need to get out. All they are doing is handing the nomination to Bernie.  If you moderates want a moderate that’s what you should be demanding.  


Also, Bernie is a moderate in 90% of the developed world.  
Well the guy I golfed with yesterday, who apparently was a former MSU grad, can't believe the Democrats are about to put a Socialist up for election. He thinks that Bernie is just promising all sorts of free stuff. Millennials don't work and the whole 10 yards. I kept quiet, because it is useless to even try to talk to anyone who isn't sure if reading newspapers is unbiased.

Honestly, I’ve had some m success with just asking them how that kind of socialism is any different than the kind that republicans participate in which is just giving all the money to corporations. If you want to go down that road it’s worth a shot in seeing how the conversation goes once they realize that someone is getting the money regardless
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2/27/2020, 1:03 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
InTenSity wrote:
Well the guy I golfed with yesterday, who apparently was a former MSU grad, can't believe the Democrats are about to put a Socialist up for election. He thinks that Bernie is just promising all sorts of free stuff. Millennials don't work and the whole 10 yards. I kept quiet, because it is useless to even try to talk to anyone who isn't sure if reading newspapers is unbiased.

Honestly, I’ve had some m success with just asking them how that kind of socialism is any different than the kind that republicans participate in which is just giving all the money to corporations. If you want to go down that road it’s worth a shot in seeing how the conversation goes once they realize that someone is getting the money regardless
yeah, the knuckle-draggers have no idea what "socialism" is.. they just know that the mainstream media tells them it's bad.

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Post by AvgMSUJoe on 2/27/2020, 2:44 pm

uy I golfed with yesterday, who apparently was a former MSU grad, can't believe the Democrats are about to put a Socialist up for election. He thinks that Bernie is just promising all sorts of free stuff. Millennials don't work and the whole 10 yards. I kept quiet, because it is useless to even try to talk to anyone who isn't sure if reading newspapers is unbiased.

Yeah... ask him how he feels with the farm subsidies. Or with the trademark laws protecting the outrageous drug prices. Or with the US government subsidizing Walmart's employees? Or his local taxes subsidizing all of the Amazon trucks ruining the roads he drives on?

Ask him to name 3 industries that "big government" doesn't have it's hand in. (he can't)

Anyone making any sort of "socialism" vs "capitalism" argument is being disingenuous at best and a parroting dolt at worst.
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Post by DWags on 2/27/2020, 6:36 pm

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Post by Cameron on 2/28/2020, 1:35 pm

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So, wait... Does he or does he not believe that the candidate who receives the most votes should be the winner of a given election? Getting conflicting information there...
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Post by DWags on 2/28/2020, 1:44 pm

I'd vote for Barry/Garth Brooks 2020. Why not?

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Post by Nordic on 2/29/2020, 4:01 pm

DWags wrote:I'd vote for Barry/Garth Brooks 2020. Why not?


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Post by kingstonlake on 2/29/2020, 7:40 pm

Time for Warren to step aside.

I’d really like this to boil down to Sanders and Biden and let the chips fall where they may.
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Post by steveschneider on 2/29/2020, 8:18 pm

Biden kicked some fucking ass. Get the fuck up!!! Letsgooooooo!!!
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Post by steveschneider on 2/29/2020, 8:23 pm

Joe Biden was like hulk hogan on the mat looking done. Crowd is roaring and you see his hand move. This Tuesday he’s going to power slam Bernie’s ass into the mat and go for the pin. USA! USA! USA!
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2/29/2020, 8:23 pm

steveschneider wrote:Joe Biden was like hulk hogan on the mat looking done. Crowd is roaring and you see his hand move. This Tuesday he’s going to power slam Bernie’s ass into the mat and go for the pin. USA! USA! USA!

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Slow down there slugger.
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Post by DWags on 2/29/2020, 9:23 pm

Tom Styer just dropped out. More moderate votes will go towards Biden
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Post by InTenSity on 2/29/2020, 9:28 pm

DWags wrote:Tom Styer just dropped out. More moderate votes will go towards Biden
Who is Tom Styer and how many votes was he getting?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2/29/2020, 9:33 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Joe Biden was like hulk hogan on the mat looking done. Crowd is roaring and you see his hand move. This Tuesday he’s going to power slam Bernie’s ass into the mat and go for the pin. USA! USA! USA!

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Slow down there slugger.
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Steve is HYPED!!
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Post by DWags on 2/29/2020, 9:35 pm

InTenSity wrote:
DWags wrote:Tom Styer just dropped out. More moderate votes will go towards Biden
Who is Tom Styer and how many votes was he getting?

He's the 2nd billionaire who is telling all the democrats he is like them.
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Post by InTenSity on 2/29/2020, 9:36 pm

DWags wrote:
InTenSity wrote:
Who is Tom Styer and how many votes was he getting?

He's the 2nd billionaire who is telling all the democrats he is like them.
at least there are real billionaires running this time.
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Post by steveschneider on 2/29/2020, 10:05 pm

Bet we start hearing about Hunter Biden again.
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Post by kingstonlake on 2/29/2020, 10:09 pm

DWags wrote:
InTenSity wrote:
Who is Tom Styer and how many votes was he getting?

He's the 2nd billionaire who is telling all the democrats he is like them.

Of the 1 billion spent so far on ads 3/4 of it has been by Steyer and Bloomberg.
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