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Post by MiamiSpartan on 2020-02-29, 22:18

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He's the 2nd billionaire who is telling all the democrats he is like them.

Of the 1 billion spent so far on ads 3/4 of it has been by Steyer and Bloomberg.
And to them, it's basically like change that fell between the cushions of their couch.
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Post by Cameron on 2020-02-29, 22:22

Great showing for Biden. I kinda doubt Pete, Amy, or Warren will drop out before Tuesday, but they all should. Bloomberg too, obviously, but he can afford to stay in it as long as he wants.
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Post by Three_Putt_Par on 2020-02-29, 23:23

steveschneider wrote:Joe Biden was like hulk hogan on the mat looking done. Crowd is roaring and you see his hand move. This Tuesday he’s going to power slam Bernie’s ass into the mat and go for the pin. USA! USA! USA!

Bernie is looking a landslide win in CA and a win in TX right now. That happens and no one is catching him.


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Post by DWags on 2020-02-29, 23:25

Three_Putt_Par wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Joe Biden was like hulk hogan on the mat looking done. Crowd is roaring and you see his hand move. This Tuesday he’s going to power slam Bernie’s ass into the mat and go for the pin. USA! USA! USA!

Bernie is looking a landslide win in CA and a win in TX right now. That's happens and no one is catching him.

Except Donald Trump in November.
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Post by Three_Putt_Par on 2020-02-29, 23:32

DWags wrote:
Three_Putt_Par wrote:

Bernie is looking a landslide win in CA and a win in TX right now. That's happens and no one is catching him.

Except Donald Trump in November.

Shit, Bernie could potentially win TX in the general. His Latino support is no joke.
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Post by DWags on 2020-02-29, 23:43

Three_Putt_Par wrote:
DWags wrote:

Except Donald Trump in November.

And Beto coulda beat that POS Cruz.

Shit, Bernie could potentially win TX in the general. His Latino support is no joke.
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-03-01, 00:56

If Bernie can win Texas then sign me up.
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Post by NigelUno on 2020-03-01, 08:53

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Post by AvgMSUJoe on 2020-03-01, 08:56

I don't get the black vote going for Biden. What's the draw? Old, white, possibly in mentally decline... It's not like the 8 years he was VP was a boon to the black standard of living.
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Post by GRR Spartan on 2020-03-01, 11:34

After South Carolina be ready to hear as much about Biden's UKRAINE CONNECTION and Bernie Sanders is a SOCIALIST.
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Post by Three_Putt_Par on 2020-03-01, 12:38

The worse case scenario is Bernie has a plurality of delegates heading into the convention and someone else is the nominee after the convention. No way the nominee beats Trump in that case.
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Post by DWags on 2020-03-01, 18:32

Now mayor Pete is out. More moderate votes toward Biden and warden.
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Post by kingstonlake on 2020-03-01, 19:26

DWags wrote: Now mayor Pete is out. More moderate votes toward Biden and warden.

Kudos to him for doing the right thing. Paging Elizabeth Warren, Mrs Warren to the stage....
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Post by Three_Putt_Par on 2020-03-01, 19:27

kingstonlake wrote:
DWags wrote: Now mayor Pete is out. More moderate votes toward Biden and warden.

Kudos to him for doing the right thing. Paging Elizabeth Warren, Mrs Warren to the stage....

I'm not sure most of Warren's votes go to Biden. She is more on the progressive side.
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Post by kingstonlake on 2020-03-01, 19:28

Three_Putt_Par wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Kudos to him for doing the right thing. Paging Elizabeth Warren, Mrs Warren to the stage....

I'm not sure most of Warren's votes go to Biden. She is more on the progressive side.

Agree, she’s no moderate. Mrs Klobuchar to the stage please.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-03-01, 20:00

Pete dropping out is yet another reason not to participate in early voting.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2020-03-01, 22:40

Man I liked Mayor Pete. Probably not the guy who could rally the entire base but clearly a very bright guy with a solid moral center who would fight to do the right thing.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2020-03-01, 22:41

All love to the Bernie Bros but this is Gonna be Uncle Joe (and hopefully Kamala, but maybe Warren) vs. the Evil Empire.
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Post by Three_Putt_Par on 2020-03-01, 23:52

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:All love to the Bernie Bros but this is Gonna be Uncle Joe (and hopefully Kamala, but maybe Warren) vs. the Evil Empire.

Let's see what happens Tuesday. If the numbers hold up in CA and TX, it's looking good for Bernie.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-03-02, 07:58

Three_Putt_Par wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:All love to the Bernie Bros but this is Gonna be Uncle Joe (and hopefully Kamala, but maybe Warren) vs. the Evil Empire.

Let's see what happens Tuesday. If the numbers hold up in CA and TX, it's looking good for Bernie.
lots of early voting so it probably looks okay for Bernie. I suspect Biden will get around 20% in CA, which would be a good night for him.

hopefully Biden can eventually take down Bernie.. I'd say that once Warren and Klobuchar fall to the wayside, Biden will experience an uptick in support.

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Post by Cameron on 2020-03-02, 10:07

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Three_Putt_Par wrote:

Let's see what happens Tuesday. If the numbers hold up in CA and TX, it's looking good for Bernie.
lots of early voting so it probably looks okay for Bernie. I suspect Biden will get around 20% in CA, which would be a good night for him.

hopefully Biden can eventually take down Bernie.. I'd say that once Warren and Klobuchar fall to the wayside, Biden will experience an uptick in support.


If Warren is your first choice, I don't really see how you can prefer Biden to Bernie unless you don't really care about the policies.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-03-02, 10:16

Cameron wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: lots of early voting so it probably looks okay for Bernie. I suspect Biden will get around 20% in CA, which would be a good night for him.

hopefully Biden can eventually take down Bernie.. I'd say that once Warren and Klobuchar fall to the wayside, Biden will experience an uptick in support.


If Warren is your first choice, I don't really see how you can prefer Biden to Bernie unless you don't really care about the policies.
I don't like Bernie.. he's an arrogant prick and a misogynist.

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Post by steveschneider on 2020-03-02, 10:47

Been calling Biden from the onset.

My haters everyday - 'Fucking Steve'

Here we are months later and the haters are biting their nails realizing Fucking Steve got it right again.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-03-02, 10:56

steveschneider wrote:Been calling Biden from the onset.

My haters everyday - 'Fucking Steve'

Here we are months later and the haters are biting their nails realizing Fucking Steve got it right again.

Bernie will have a good Super Tuesday - it's set up well for him and his supporters. Biden will be okay - it's a marathon, not a sprint. It'll be interesting to see where things are in 4-6 weeks.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2020-03-02, 11:04

steveschneider wrote:Been calling Biden from the onset.

My haters everyday - 'Fucking Steve'

Here we are months later and the haters are biting their nails realizing Fucking Steve got it right again.


Actually first you said Oprah and avenatti but you know that.
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Post by Cameron on 2020-03-02, 11:23

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Cameron wrote:

If Warren is your first choice, I don't really see how you can prefer Biden to Bernie unless you don't really care about the policies.
I don't like Bernie.. he's an arrogant prick and a misogynist.


So it's not about the policies. Cool.

I don't like Warren, but she's my second choice at this point because her policy prescriptions align closer to my own views/preferences than any of the moderates.

But I guess it's expecting too much of people to ask them to be logical.
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Post by Cameron on 2020-03-02, 11:26

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Been calling Biden from the onset.

My haters everyday - 'Fucking Steve'

Here we are months later and the haters are biting their nails realizing Fucking Steve got it right again.


Actually first you said Oprah and avenatti but you know that.

Steve reads a shit ton of news papers, Travis, don't question him.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-03-02, 11:29

Cameron wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
I don't like Bernie.. he's an arrogant prick and a misogynist.


So it's not about the policies. Cool.

I don't like Warren, but she's my second choice at this point because her policy prescriptions align closer to my own views/preferences than any of the moderates.

But I guess it's expecting too much of people to ask them to be logical.
disliking someone because they're an arrogant prick and a misogynist is totally logical where I come from..

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Post by Cameron on 2020-03-02, 11:55

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Cameron wrote:

So it's not about the policies. Cool.

I don't like Warren, but she's my second choice at this point because her policy prescriptions align closer to my own views/preferences than any of the moderates.

But I guess it's expecting too much of people to ask them to be logical.
disliking someone because they're an arrogant prick and a misogynist is totally logical where I come from..

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The illogical part is not disliking Bernie. The illogical part is not voting for a candidate whose policies check off more of your boxes because you dislike that candidate personally.

Frankly, I suspect they're all dislikable people on a personal level. You mention arrogance as well, and I think they're all breathtakingly arrogant. Honestly, Warren might be the most arrogant one left, now that Pete dropped out.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-03-02, 12:05

Cameron wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: disliking someone because they're an arrogant prick and a misogynist is totally logical where I come from..

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The illogical part is not disliking Bernie. The illogical part is not voting for a candidate whose policies check off more of your boxes because you dislike that candidate personally.

Frankly, I suspect they're all dislikable people on a personal level. You mention arrogance as well, and I think they're all breathtakingly arrogant. Honestly, Warren might be the most arrogant one left, now that Pete dropped out.
I suspect you have to be arrogant to run for office.. Liz just isn't a dick about it.

we see things differently. Not shocking - I'll vote for who I want to vote for, you do the same, dude. It's really that simple. The 2020 Presidential campaign. - Page 2 3493939353
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Post by Rocinante on 2020-03-02, 12:09

I don’t get why anyone would think Bernie is a prick. Because of the thing with Warren? Even she played that thing down after it happened. Only those two know what happened in that conversation but I find it really hard to believe that Sanders would think a woman CANT beat Trump since one already did.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-03-02, 12:15

Rocinante wrote:I don’t get why anyone would think Bernie is a prick. Because of the thing with Warren? Even she played that thing down after it happened. Only those two know what happened in that conversation but I find it really hard to believe that Sanders would think a woman CANT beat Trump since one already did.
it's probably just me - I think most white dudes are pricks.

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Post by NigelUno on 2020-03-02, 12:17

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Cameron wrote:

The illogical part is not disliking Bernie. The illogical part is not voting for a candidate whose policies check off more of your boxes because you dislike that candidate personally.

Frankly, I suspect they're all dislikable people on a personal level. You mention arrogance as well, and I think they're all breathtakingly arrogant. Honestly, Warren might be the most arrogant one left, now that Pete dropped out.
I suspect you have to be arrogant to run for office.. Liz just isn't a dick about it.

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Maybe I'm not paying attention, but I didn't get an arrogant vibe from Mayor Pete at all.

Sounds like he's talking to Biden about working together somehow.
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Post by NigelUno on 2020-03-02, 12:18

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Rocinante wrote:I don’t get why anyone would think Bernie is a prick. Because of the thing with Warren? Even she played that thing down after it happened. Only those two know what happened in that conversation but I find it really hard to believe that Sanders would think a woman CANT beat Trump since one already did.
it's probably just me - I think most white dudes are pricks.


What woman beat Trump? His first wife?
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Post by steveschneider on 2020-03-02, 12:24

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Been calling Biden from the onset.

My haters everyday - 'Fucking Steve'

Here we are months later and the haters are biting their nails realizing Fucking Steve got it right again.


Actually first you said Oprah and avenatti but you know that.

I said Oprah could but she never entered. Oprah would be a slam dunk to win it.
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Post by Cameron on 2020-03-02, 12:30

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I suspect you have to be arrogant to run for office.. Liz just isn't a dick about it.

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Maybe I'm not paying attention, but I didn't get an arrogant vibe from Mayor Pete at all.

Sounds like he's talking to Biden about working together somehow.  

No? I think Pete is incredibly smarmy, which I think goes hand-in-hand with arrogance. I'm sure Klobuchar agrees with that assessment.
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Post by Cameron on 2020-03-02, 12:33

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Rocinante wrote:I don’t get why anyone would think Bernie is a prick. Because of the thing with Warren? Even she played that thing down after it happened. Only those two know what happened in that conversation but I find it really hard to believe that Sanders would think a woman CANT beat Trump since one already did.
it's probably just me - I think most white dudes are pricks.


But you're on the record as hoping Biden, another white guy, takes down Bernie, so surely you must have something specific in mind, because it's definitely not possible that maybe the mainstream media has influenced your opinion of Bernie. We all know you're above that...
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Post by Cameron on 2020-03-02, 12:34

steveschneider wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Actually first you said Oprah and avenatti but you know that.

I said Oprah could but she never entered. Oprah would be a slam dunk to win it.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-03-02, 12:46

Cameron wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: it's probably just me - I think most white dudes are pricks.


But you're on the record as hoping Biden, another white guy, takes down Bernie, so surely you must have something specific in mind, because it's definitely not possible that maybe the mainstream media has influenced your opinion of Bernie. We all know you're above that...
I don't think Biden is as big of an arrogant prick as Bernie.

and, yes, I don't pay attention to the mainstream media.. unless it's me pointing out how incredibly misinformed people who do pay attention to the mainstream media are.
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Post by Rocinante on 2020-03-02, 12:48

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: it's probably just me - I think most white dudes are pricks.


What woman beat Trump? His first wife?

I mean. Probably. But depending on your metric, Hillary did.
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