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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by Herbie Green on 2017-01-01, 19:07

Redskins down 13-10. 2:12 to go Redskins ball.

Lets see what you got Kirk Cousins
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-01, 19:08

Michael Thomas is going to be a monster in the NFL for a lotta years if he doesn't get hurt.

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Post by MattyFresh on 2017-01-01, 19:10

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-01, 19:10

Cook is accurate. Denver isn't exactly playing bump and run but CC looks good.

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Post by Death Roe on 2017-01-01, 19:10

KC wrapping up the 2-seed and the AFC West title.

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Pea soup, much like clam chowder, needs to have that consistency first, that you can stand the spoon up in it, but the spoon soon tilts, that's the consistency you want.
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Number three: Pea soup needs a fine dice of ham. Not bacon, not any other meat, not turkey. It needs a fine dice of ham.
Uh, number four: Uh, pea soup scorches easily. You don't wanna heat it on a high heat. You wanna heat it on medium low, just until it's warmed through.
Uh, number five: Pea soup is best made, uh, by hand, not out of a Campbell's can. And the key to pea soup, you want a ham bone, uh, for the stock you make, uh, to, to boil your peas.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-01, 19:11

And Oakland loses their pro bowl LT to a knee injury.

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Post by Death Roe on 2017-01-01, 19:11

Nigel being an attention whore as usual.

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I've had watery pea soup, it's AWFUL.
Uh, I've had gelatinous, thick pea soup, it's TERRIBLE.
Pea soup, much like clam chowder, needs to have that consistency first, that you can stand the spoon up in it, but the spoon soon tilts, that's the consistency you want.
Number two: Uh, pea soup on it's own can be a little bland. It wants, uh, a fairly aggressive peppering and salting.
Number three: Pea soup needs a fine dice of ham. Not bacon, not any other meat, not turkey. It needs a fine dice of ham.
Uh, number four: Uh, pea soup scorches easily. You don't wanna heat it on a high heat. You wanna heat it on medium low, just until it's warmed through.
Uh, number five: Pea soup is best made, uh, by hand, not out of a Campbell's can. And the key to pea soup, you want a ham bone, uh, for the stock you make, uh, to, to boil your peas.
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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by MattyFresh on 2017-01-01, 19:11

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Cook is accurate. Denver isn't exactly playing bump and run but CC looks good.


He's been the scout QB all year, I am excited and they better play him in the playoffs, hes looking 10x then McGloin
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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-01, 19:12

Take your time Kirk. All the time in the world.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-01, 19:13

Awful pick by KC.

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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by Floyd Robertson on 2017-01-01, 19:13

Fuvk, Kirk.
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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-01, 19:14

Likely a season ender.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-01, 19:14

And Cook does the same. Overthrows the TE by 3 feet.

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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by Herbie Green on 2017-01-01, 19:15

Cousins blew it
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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by MattyFresh on 2017-01-01, 19:15

We had a good 15 minutes of MSU qb awesomeness...
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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-01, 19:17

Cousins will have about 15 seconds to get the Skins in FG range from (best case) his own 20 with no TOs.

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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-01, 19:17

Possible that pick cost him a lot of money.

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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2017-01-01, 19:23

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Possible that pick cost him a lot of money.

Very true. Hope not though.
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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by Herbie Green on 2017-01-01, 19:25

Not sure I understand the dynamics - he is still a better than average NFL starting qb is he not?
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-01, 19:28

Herbie Green wrote:Not sure I understand the dynamics - he is still a better than average NFL starting qb is he not?

I would say so but he's on a franchise tag this year so it's a one year contract. They have to decide whether he's worth the tag again next year (another 1 year contract worth ~ 25 mil) or pay him long term. And if neither of those, he will hit the market. Do you want to pay $25 mil/year on a 1 yr deal or make him one of the highest paid players in the league on a long term deal with the last couple of games he played, essentially knocking you out of the playoffs?

EDIT - my bad, I was remembering the Panthers game a few weeks ago, forgot they beat the Bears last week.

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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by Herbie Green on 2017-01-01, 19:31

I guess I am not worried. I have no loyalty to the Redskins other than Cousins and he will play somewhere. Might be funnier if they let him go and then they tanked.
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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2017-01-01, 19:33

Yeah I guess the thing is there was talk that the Skins would reward him with a new contract and he would be the highest paid player in the league, due to their options. I have a hard time seeing that happening now. You are right, though, he will land somewhere and make good money.

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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by aualum06 on 2017-01-01, 19:33

Got to remember they really don't have a running back although Kelly came in this year or a dominant receiver
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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by Death Roe on 2017-01-01, 19:34

aualum06 wrote:Got to remember they really don't have a running back although Kelly came in this year or a dominant receiver

Looking like DeSean Jackson might go back to the Eagles. Would give Wentz an immediate deep-threat WR who was much better utilized in Philly.

They need to draft some studs if they want to build around Kirk.

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Pea soup, much like clam chowder, needs to have that consistency first, that you can stand the spoon up in it, but the spoon soon tilts, that's the consistency you want.
Number two: Uh, pea soup on it's own can be a little bland. It wants, uh, a fairly aggressive peppering and salting.
Number three: Pea soup needs a fine dice of ham. Not bacon, not any other meat, not turkey. It needs a fine dice of ham.
Uh, number four: Uh, pea soup scorches easily. You don't wanna heat it on a high heat. You wanna heat it on medium low, just until it's warmed through.
Uh, number five: Pea soup is best made, uh, by hand, not out of a Campbell's can. And the key to pea soup, you want a ham bone, uh, for the stock you make, uh, to, to boil your peas.
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Re: Spartans in the NFL

Post by MattyFresh on 2017-01-01, 19:40

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aualum06 wrote:Got to remember they really don't have a running back although Kelly came in this year or a dominant receiver

Looking like DeSean Jackson might go back to the Eagles. Would give Wentz an immediate deep-threat WR who was much better utilized in Philly.

They need to draft some studs if they want to build around Kirk.

Washington has dicked themselves with some of their contracts.  I mean I think Norman is elite but the rest of the defense is questionable.  Half of his o line is shaky at best.  Get ready for the hot takes everywhere though.
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Post by Death Roe on 2017-01-01, 19:41

I didn't think Norman was that good until I saw how shit the Carolina secondary has been without him.

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I've had watery pea soup, it's AWFUL.
Uh, I've had gelatinous, thick pea soup, it's TERRIBLE.
Pea soup, much like clam chowder, needs to have that consistency first, that you can stand the spoon up in it, but the spoon soon tilts, that's the consistency you want.
Number two: Uh, pea soup on it's own can be a little bland. It wants, uh, a fairly aggressive peppering and salting.
Number three: Pea soup needs a fine dice of ham. Not bacon, not any other meat, not turkey. It needs a fine dice of ham.
Uh, number four: Uh, pea soup scorches easily. You don't wanna heat it on a high heat. You wanna heat it on medium low, just until it's warmed through.
Uh, number five: Pea soup is best made, uh, by hand, not out of a Campbell's can. And the key to pea soup, you want a ham bone, uh, for the stock you make, uh, to, to boil your peas.
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Post by MattyFresh on 2017-01-01, 19:46

Death Roe wrote:I didn't think Norman was that good until I saw how shit the Carolina secondary has been without him.

It doesn't matter if he only shuts down one player.  Anyway, Connor Cook finishes 14-for-21, 150 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT.
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Post by Steve81 on 2017-01-01, 19:58

MattyFresh wrote:
Death Roe wrote:I didn't think Norman was that good until I saw how shit the Carolina secondary has been without him.

It doesn't matter if he only shuts down one player.  Anyway, Connor Cook finishes 14-for-21, 150 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT.
Not bad for his first game.
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Post by MattyFresh on 2017-01-01, 20:00

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MattyFresh wrote:

It doesn't matter if he only shuts down one player.  Anyway, Connor Cook finishes 14-for-21, 150 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT.
Not bad for his first game.
add in the fact he was a Scout team QB like 6 days ago.. facing Denver's D and jumped in to play midway into the game.
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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-01-01, 20:24

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Yeah I guess the thing is there was talk that the Skins would reward him with a new contract and he would be the highest paid player in the league, due to their options. I have a hard time seeing that happening now. You are right, though, he will land somewhere and make good money.

I still say he picks the Bears.

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Post by GRR Spartan on 2017-01-02, 00:22

Washington would have already been in the playoffs if their defense could have kept the Lions from scoring after they went ahead with less than 2 minutes left. A few weeks later the Washington defense failed to keep another 4th quarter lead.

Cousins threw a TD today in a must win game but there were 2-3 games this season that would have made the last game meaningless for getting into the playoffs.
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2017-01-02, 08:52

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Post by tGreenWay on 2017-01-02, 11:19

Floyd Robertson wrote:Reddit Raiders

Support for Cook.

There's one or two guys calling him Cookie. They must be hockey fans.

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Post by LooseGoose on 2017-01-02, 11:34

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Floyd Robertson wrote:Reddit Raiders

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There's one or two guys calling him Cookie. They must be hockey fans.

Did you notice they're not calling him Captain?

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Post by StylesGShmooth on 2017-01-02, 12:10

aualum06 wrote:Got to remember they really don't have a running back although Kelly came in this year or a dominant receiver

Kelly rushed for 700 yards on 4.2 ypc starting half the season and the Redskins have what many consider the best Receiving corp in the league. Pierre Garcon is probably the 5th option. Kirk had plenty of talent to work with on Offense.

Good chance they might let him walk though. He's put up some amazing numbers but if you watched all the games he left a lot of plays on the field and cost them a few games.
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Post by DWags on 2017-01-02, 12:15

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aualum06 wrote:Got to remember they really don't have a running back although Kelly came in this year or a dominant receiver

Kelly rushed for 700 yards on 4.2 ypc starting half the season and the Redskins have what many consider the best Receiving corp in the league. Pierre Garcon is probably the 5th option. Kirk had plenty of talent to work with on Offense.

Good chance they might let him walk though. He's put up some amazing numbers but if you watched all the games he left a lot of plays on the field and cost them a few games.

Certainly he cost them the last game. Didn't need to force that pass at that point. He'll get paid though. Some team will want him.

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Post by StylesGShmooth on 2017-01-02, 12:38

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Kelly rushed for 700 yards on 4.2 ypc starting half the season and the Redskins have what many consider the best Receiving corp in the league.  Pierre Garcon is probably the 5th option.  Kirk had plenty of talent to work with on Offense.  

Good chance they might let him walk though.  He's put up some amazing numbers but if you watched all the games he left a lot of plays on the field and cost them a few games.  

Certainly he cost them the last game.  Didn't need to force that pass at that point.  He'll get paid though.  Some team will want him.  

Yeah, he'll get paid somewhere for sure.  QB money is insane right now.  Don't think he'll get Osweiller money though and I don't think the Redskins will resign him unless he signs for something in the 12-15 mil range.  Skins have plenty of cap space but don't think they're gonna be willing to make the investment.  This game, Carolina and the first Dallas game in particular he left some huge easy plays on the field; guys wide open, blown coverages, it was bad. He had quite a few games where his raw stats were great in a vacuum but didn't actually play that well.
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Post by DWags on 2017-01-02, 12:42

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Certainly he cost them the last game.  Didn't need to force that pass at that point.  He'll get paid though.  Some team will want him.  

Yeah, he'll get paid somewhere for sure.  QB money is insane right now.  Don't think he'll get Osweiller money though and I don't think the Redskins will resign him unless he signs for something in the 12-15 mil range.  Skins have plenty of cap space but don't think they're gonna be willing to make the investment.  This game, Carolina and the first Dallas game in particular he left some huge easy plays on the field; guys wide open, blown coverages, it was bad. He had quite a few games where his raw stats were great in a vacuum but didn't actually play that well.

He definitely hasn't seemed to make that big play in a big game yet. Had he lead them to a t.d. yesterday, he would have probably added about 3-5 million a year to his salary. JMO.

All in all, he's a top 10-15 QB in the league, and where QB's are at a premium, he's put himself in a good position.

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Post by Steve81 on 2017-01-02, 13:58

Nice pic and a couple sentences about Cook in the New York Times today. Very good for the program.
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Post by DWags on 2017-01-03, 00:21

Raiders just signed Garrett Gilbert. Might be a bad sign for cook. But probably just a body needed in case.

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