Valenti spot on today

Death Roe wrote:Vlad and Dude are the two most insecure MSU fans on the internet. It's stunning how big of vaginas you two are.

Vlad is a "fan".
The Dude is pretending to be a Michigan State fan.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:We pretty much have the same coaches that we did when we kicked ass the past 6 years, right?


Bad outlier year here..there... they forgot how to coach?

No. No Duzzi, new ST coach and changes with offense.

MSU never won because of offense. Offense needs an overhaul because we don't have great D and ST anymore.

The_Dude wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:We pretty much have the same coaches that we did when we kicked ass the past 6 years, right?


Bad outlier year here..there... they forgot how to coach?

No. No Duzzi, new ST coach and changes with offense.

MSU never won because of offense. Offense needs an overhaul because we don't have great D and ST anymore.

I do give The Dude and Vlad credit for letting other people do their thinking for them. It has to make life a lot easier when you do not have to worry about original thoughts.

I thought we put up a lot of points with cook and co.

Please keep in mind that the OP played high school football. Nobody else has done that. That is a fact.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I thought we put up a lot of points with cook and co.

2014 we did. Offenses were not that good in 2013 or 2015. Look at where MSU ranked in total offense. Not that great.

Think about it. We beat OSU last year scoring 17 and won the B1G title game scoring 16. That's not good. We scored 21 points on offense vs UM and zero vs Bama.

So in our 4 biggest games we averaged 13.5 ppg on offense.

What a dumb fuck.

DWags wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

So in our 4 biggest games we averaged 13.5 ppg on offense.

Em, we were 3-1 against 4top 12 teams. Three top ten teams
I guess "that's not good"

Sorry was specifically talking about how we won despite our offense in response to OTPT. Follow along now.

You're going to exclusively measure our ppg vs the best 4 teams we played that year? That does not seem very fair mr lebowski. Also - we did not really have cook for OSU (TOC), Iowa, and Bama. Shoulder.

DWags wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

Sorry was specifically talking about how we won despite our offense in response to OTPT. Follow along now.

How we did what? Won?



A game killing 9:23 drive 22 plays? That offense?

Do you know how football works?

DWags, I don't always follow my own advice, but I try to remember this quote whenever the_douche tries to engage his brain:
"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:You're going to exclusively measure our ppg vs the best 4 teams we played that year? That does not seem very fair mr lebowski. Also - we did not really have cook for OSU (TOC), Iowa, and Bama. Shoulder.

Just look at the past 5 years of where MSU ranks with total offense. It's simply not good.

The_Dude wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:You're going to exclusively measure our ppg vs the best 4 teams we played that year? That does not seem very fair mr lebowski. Also - we did not really have cook for OSU (TOC), Iowa, and Bama. Shoulder.

Just look at the past 5 years of where MSU ranks with total offense. It's simply not good.

I'm going to get high and clean my place to get ready for some visitors this weekend instead.

OTPT here's some research. Ranked 73 last year in total offense. 11 in 2014. 81 in 2013. 2012 just lol. In 2011 the offense put up 13 vs ND, 10 vs OSU, 21 vs UM and 3 vs Nebraska.

So no, we don't put up points and offenses have really been not good to put it bluntly.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

Just look at the past 5 years of where MSU ranks with total offense. It's simply not good.

I'm going to get high and clean my place to get ready for some visitors this weekend instead.

I know, I'm right and you didn't really know what you were talking about. In two of Cooks three years, MSU ranked in the bottom half and near the bottom third of all division 1 offenses.

Myth we had great offenses under Cook sans 2014.

The_Dude wrote:OTPT here's some research. Ranked 73 last year in total offense. 11 in 2014. 81 in 2013. 2012 just lol. In 2011 the offense put up 13 vs ND, 10 vs OSU, 21 vs UM and 3 vs Nebraska.

So no, we don't put up points and offenses have really been not good to put it bluntly.

I'm sure you wouldn't be saying stats are for losers and check the win loss record if you were on the other end of this argument lebowski. Whatever they are doing at the duff seems to be working. With or without this year or 2012. Good day.

The_Dude wrote:OTPT here's some research. Ranked 73 last year in total offense. 11 in 2014. 81 in 2013. 2012 just lol. In 2011 the offense put up 13 vs ND, 10 vs OSU, 21 vs UM and 3 vs Nebraska.

So no, we don't put up points and offenses have really been not good to put it bluntly.

Stats are for losers? That's what you said yesterday.

Eviscerated

Valenti made a lot of really great points today. Starting to believe our success has been a fluke. Especially with the monster Harbs is building in AA.

NigelUno wrote:

The_Dude wrote:OTPT here's some research. Ranked 73 last year in total offense. 11 in 2014. 81 in 2013. 2012 just lol. In 2011 the offense put up 13 vs ND, 10 vs OSU, 21 vs UM and 3 vs Nebraska.

So no, we don't put up points and offenses have really been not good to put it bluntly.

Stats are for losers? That's what you said yesterday.

Yup and MSU are losers so far this year.

Nice try lol

The_Dude wrote: Scoring points isn't overrated. If you want to argue that be my guest.

Sometimes you just need to watch teams play and decide if they are good, ya know?

Nice try though.

You're right.  Scoring points isn't overrated, and in 3 of the 4 games you were talking about...the scoreboard said we scored more points than the other team.  

Thanks for pointing that out.  

The_Dude wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Harbaugh was 8-8.  That equals results?  

And Bollman was at Purdue before we hired him.  He didn't get run out of there.  

So...again...you look like an idiot.

You seriously going to argue Harbaugh didn't produce at a high level in SF? Lol?

Here's where you expose yourself, again, as a Harbs slappy.

Yeah, your hero got to the super bowl. And lost. Then he went steadily down and management had enough. His act is only tolerable when he wins. He was absolutely run out of San Fran.

Now, Coach D gets to the playoff and also lost. Less than 6 months later you want him to fire his staff. ( mostly because Valenti told you how to think).

So your take now is Harbs will win a national title but Dantonio has no chance. Ever.

Your Harbs knee pads are getting worn out, Walvie.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Valenti made a lot of really great points today. Starting to believe our success has been a fluke. Especially with the monster Harbs is building in AA.

Please tell me you are kidding.

NigelUno wrote:

The_Dude wrote: Scoring points isn't overrated. If you want to argue that be my guest.

Sometimes you just need to watch teams play and decide if they are good, ya know?

Nice try though.

You're right.  Scoring points isn't overrated, and in 3 of the 4 games you were talking about...the scoreboard said we scored more points than the other team.  

Thanks for pointing that out.  

Well yeah dumbass I was specifically asked about points scored, not winning the game. Lol

If you are going to troll, at least do a better job. K?

The_Dude wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

You're right.  Scoring points isn't overrated, and in 3 of the 4 games you were talking about...the scoreboard said we scored more points than the other team.  

Thanks for pointing that out.  

Well yeah dumbass I was specifically asked about points scored, not winning the game. Lol

If you are going to troll, at least do a better job. K?

YOU are calling somebody a troll ?

I'm so fucking tired of your MSU bashing and Harbaugh worship.

duffy munn wrote:

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Valenti made a lot of really great points today. Starting to believe our success has been a fluke. Especially with the monster Harbs is building in AA.

Please tell me you are kidding.

No, not really. I mean they have definitely passed us this year and next year isn't looking that much better. It sucks but it's a fair point to make.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

Please tell me you are kidding.

No, not really. I mean they have definitely passed us this year and next year isn't looking that much better. It sucks but it's a fair point to make.

I'll wait for the year to play out to concede that. It may well be true but they've not left home yet and going to Rutgers this weekend is no test either.

tDude is a coward and a racist psychopath. I'm pretty sure he is surrounded by friends who are UM fans, and has been for quite a while. He cannot handle any adversity when it comes to MSU having tough times, and has to pick them apart and side with his UM buddies while doing so.

I think he's an MSU fan, but he's an incredibly coward-like fan who is afraid of sustained success. He cannot handle any rough patches, and like Vlad, thinks the sky is falling. He has ZERO faith in Dantonio, and is also a major hypocrite (Says stats are for losers, then posts stats in another thread for example).

He and Vlad live in the Mediocre Safe Space.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

Please tell me you are kidding.

No, not really. I mean they have definitely passed us this year and next year isn't looking that much better. It sucks but it's a fair point to make.

Programs that produce like MSU over a number of years are not flukes.

As far as U of M passing us, can you at least wait until the schedule plays out until you bury us.

Coach D will have us ready on Oct 29. Sad that I want us to win partly to shut our own fans up.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

Please tell me you are kidding.

No, not really. I mean they have definitely passed us this year and next year isn't looking that much better. It sucks but it's a fair point to make.

The_Dude wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

You're right.  Scoring points isn't overrated, and in 3 of the 4 games you were talking about...the scoreboard said we scored more points than the other team.  

Thanks for pointing that out.  

Well yeah dumbass I was specifically asked about points scored, not winning the game. Lol

If you are going to troll, at least do a better job. K?

Yeah...scoring more points than the other team is overrated.

Death Roe wrote:tDude is a coward and a racist psychopath. I'm pretty sure he is surrounded by friends who are UM fans, and has been for quite a while. He cannot handle any adversity when it comes to MSU having tough times, and has to pick them apart and side with his UM buddies while doing so.

I think he's an MSU fan, but he's an incredibly coward-like fan who is afraid of sustained success. He cannot handle any rough patches, and like Vlad, thinks the sky is falling. He has ZERO faith in Dantonio, and is also a major hypocrite (Says stats are for losers, then posts stats in another thread for example).

He and Vlad live in the Mediocre Safe Space.

The Dude is playing pretend and has been for a long time. His life has to be so miserable.

Vlad is just a pussy.

LooseGoose wrote:

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

No, not really. I mean they have definitely passed us this year and next year isn't looking that much better. It sucks but it's a fair point to make.

I'll wait for the year to play out to concede that. It may well be true but they've not left home yet and going to Rutgers this weekend is no test either.

Fair enough but let's be honest. Home or not, we stand very little chance against that team. Malik will be back and hopefully so will Williams and Bullough but our DL is still decimated and our OL play is atrocious. No depth at either spot and they have the #1 Defense in the country. At this point I would expect a 31-10 type of beat down.