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Post by DWags on Tue 24 Jan 2017 - 17:13

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Post by Floyd Robertson on Wed 25 Jan 2017 - 9:41

Bump for Dow hitting 20,000 for the 1st time ever.

We'll have to see if it closes over 20,000.
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Post by DWags on Wed 25 Jan 2017 - 10:12

Floyd Robertson wrote:Bump for Dow hitting 20,000 for the 1st time ever.

We'll have to see if it closes over 20,000.

I'm old enough to remember it in the hundreds.  Bump when these numbers move 502811600
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Post by Guest on Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 10:15

I know it's your thread Wags......but keep these numbers here too.

Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper 1h1 hour ago
U.S. economy slowed in the fourth quarter to 1.9%. For all of 2016, growth was 1.6%, weakest since 2011.
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Post by DWags on Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 10:19

Fair enough. we'll see those numbers as well.
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Post by GRR Spartan on Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 10:31

Any numbers bad will be Obama's fault according to the Mio stringer and his sources
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Post by Guest on Fri 27 Jan 2017 - 10:57

GRR Spartan wrote:Any numbers bad will be Obama's fault according to the Mio stringer and his sources

lol. I fully expect a recession soon and have been saying that for over a year along with the caveat that it wouldn't be Hillary's or Trump's fault. Simply that we were due to have one.
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Post by Guest on Mon 30 Jan 2017 - 14:14

DWags wrote: Bump when these numbers move 1jxbo6

The fill your tanks quick thread seems to have vanished...but the numbers have moved.

Michigan gas prices drop about nine cents

According to AAA, the current statewide average has decreased for the third consecutive week making the average about $2.19 per gallon. However, this price is about 50 cents more than this same time last year.

Of the areas surveyed by AAA, the lowest average price can be found in the Flint area for the fourth week in a row for about $2.05 a gallon. The highest price can be found in the Marquette area for the third week in a row where it's about $2.48 a gallon.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Mon 30 Jan 2017 - 14:16

134,000,000 people banned from entering the "Land of the Free.. Home of the Brave"..

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Post by Guest on Mon 30 Jan 2017 - 14:55

Robert J Sakimano wrote:134,000,000 people banned from entering the "Land of the Free.. Home of the Brave"..

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Whatever you say.
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Post by Guest on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 10:37

PAUL KRUGMAN ON ELECTION NIGHT: “If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never.”

Today: “There is no denying the fact that the markets have absolutely been blowing up since the election! In fact this is one of the biggest rallies since the Taft Administration. The DOW is up over 13% and the other markets are also up double digits!”
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Post by AnomanderRake on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 13:22

^ Nice. Good to see the Obama administration's policies are paying off in the markets.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 13:26

3 terror attacks the media refuses to cover: Atlanta, Bowling Green, Sweden

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Post by NigelUno on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 13:36

The Dow seemed to do OK under Obama.
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Post by CheesySpartan on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 13:49

NigelUno wrote:The Dow seemed to do OK under Obama.

Starting in 2008, under Obama, the Federal Reserve dumped tons of money into the bond market. That killed rates and along with it any interest in bonds. Investors focused on stocks and thus you had your bull market.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 13:49

NigelUno wrote:The Dow seemed to do OK under Obama.
fake news.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 13:50

CheesySpartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:The Dow seemed to do OK under Obama.

Starting in 2008, under Obama, the Federal Reserve dumped tons of money into the bond market. That killed rates and along with it any interest in bonds. Investors focused on stocks and thus you had your bull market.
I don't know what any of this means but I never liked that colored boy from Kenya.
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Post by CheesySpartan on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 13:53

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

Starting in 2008, under Obama, the Federal Reserve dumped tons of money into the bond market. That killed rates and along with it any interest in bonds. Investors focused on stocks and thus you had your bull market.
I don't know what any of this means but I never liked that colored boy from Kenya.

Of course you do Bob. I was just explaining how it happened not just who it happened under.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 14:01

CheesySpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I don't know what any of this means but I never liked that colored boy from Kenya.

Of course you do Bob.  I was just explaining how it happened not just who it happened under.  
 Bump when these numbers move 4113017228  - I honestly have no clue about markets, money, financial stuff - not my area of expertise.. it's like a foreign language to me.
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Post by CheesySpartan on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 14:03

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
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Of course you do Bob.  I was just explaining how it happened not just who it happened under.  
 Bump when these numbers move 4113017228  - I honestly have no clue about markets, money, financial stuff - not my area of expertise.. it's like a foreign language to me.
 Bump when these numbers move 502811600 Por supuesto que sí Bob!
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 14:04

CheesySpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
 Bump when these numbers move 4113017228  - I honestly have no clue about markets, money, financial stuff - not my area of expertise.. it's like a foreign language to me.
 Bump when these numbers move 502811600 Por supuesto que sí Bob!
I don't speak Kenyan.

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Post by CheesySpartan on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 14:14

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:
 Bump when these numbers move 502811600 Por supuesto que sí Bob!
I don't speak Kenyan.


 Bump when these numbers move 1494614055 Its Spanish Bob study
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 14:15

CheesySpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I don't speak Kenyan.


 Bump when these numbers move 1494614055 Its Spanish Bob study
Spanish??

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#BuildTheWall

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Post by CheesySpartan on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 14:19

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

 Bump when these numbers move 1494614055 Its Spanish Bob study
Spanish??

Shocked  Bump when these numbers move 1550444538

#BuildTheWall


"Prisa ahora, presidente rápido Trump dice Bob" cheers
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 14:33

CheesySpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: Spanish??

Shocked  Bump when these numbers move 1550444538

#BuildTheWall


"Prisa ahora, presidente rápido Trump dice Bob" cheers
ummm "bring President Trump some whores.. fast"?

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Post by CheesySpartan on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 14:37

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

"Prisa ahora, presidente rápido Trump dice Bob" cheers
ummm "bring President Trump some whores.. fast"?

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Something like that...
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on Thu 23 Feb 2017 - 14:38

CheesySpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:ummm "bring President Trump some whores.. fast"?

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Something like that...
#MakeAmericaWhiteAgain

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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Feb 2017 - 13:52

The day President Trump took office, January 20, the national debt was $19,947,304,555,212.49 – what we usually would write as $19.9 trillion. The last day the debt was totaled by the Treasury Department on Friday, February 23, it was $19,913,901,120,188.15. No need to break out the calculators – that’s $33,403,435,024.34 less than on Inauguration Day, or what we would usually refer to as $33 billion.
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Post by AnomanderRake on Mon 27 Feb 2017 - 20:40

LooseGoose wrote:
The day President Trump took office, January 20, the national debt was $19,947,304,555,212.49 – what we usually would write as $19.9 trillion. The last day the debt was totaled by the Treasury Department on Friday, February 23, it was $19,913,901,120,188.15. No need to break out the calculators – that’s $33,403,435,024.34 less than on Inauguration Day, or what we would usually refer to as $33 billion.

Wait I thought he inherited a mess and Obama was the worst President ever? Are we now suggesting Obama and his administration were pretty good at budgeting and Trump is benefiting from Obama's and Congress' work?
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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Feb 2017 - 20:59

AnomanderRake wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Wait I thought he inherited a mess and Obama was the worst President ever? Are we now suggesting Obama and his administration were pretty good at budgeting and Trump is benefiting from Obama's and Congress' work?

Why are you crediting Obama with the $$ Trump saved?
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Post by AnomanderRake on Mon 27 Feb 2017 - 21:04

LooseGoose wrote:
AnomanderRake wrote:

Wait I thought he inherited a mess and Obama was the worst President ever? Are we now suggesting Obama and his administration were pretty good at budgeting and Trump is benefiting from Obama's and Congress' work?

Why are you crediting Obama with the $$ Trump saved?

Because Trump's administration hasn't done shit to impact the budget yet. But he did just request $54 billion in additional funding for the military so we can kiss our $30 billion goodbye.
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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Feb 2017 - 21:54

AnomanderRake wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Why are you crediting Obama with the $$ Trump saved?

Because Trump's administration hasn't done shit to impact the budget yet. But he did just request $54 billion in additional funding for the military so we can kiss our $30 billion goodbye.

So to clarify do you put the '09 stimulus on Bush or Obama?
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on Mon 27 Feb 2017 - 23:24

LooseGoose wrote:
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Because Trump's administration hasn't done shit to impact the budget yet. But he did just request $54 billion in additional funding for the military so we can kiss our $30 billion goodbye.

So to clarify do you put the '09 stimulus on Bush or Obama?

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Post by AnomanderRake on Tue 28 Feb 2017 - 8:58

LooseGoose wrote:
AnomanderRake wrote:

Because Trump's administration hasn't done shit to impact the budget yet. But he did just request $54 billion in additional funding for the military so we can kiss our $30 billion goodbye.

So to clarify do you put the '09 stimulus on Bush or Obama?

The Stimulus package was mostly drafted into law by Democrats in Congress and signed into law by President Obama. Nearly every republican voted against it so the stimulus package for all its benefits and shortcomings falls on the democratic party, though I recall they did make some concessions to republicans, I can't remember what those concessions were but I'm sure it had something to do with taxes on the wealthy.
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Post by NigelUno on Tue 28 Feb 2017 - 9:29

LooseGoose wrote:
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Because Trump's administration hasn't done shit to impact the budget yet. But he did just request $54 billion in additional funding for the military so we can kiss our $30 billion goodbye.

So to clarify do you put the '09 stimulus on Bush or Obama?

Can you clarify what Trump has done to lower the deficit?

Be specific. Thanks.
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Post by AnomanderRake on Tue 28 Feb 2017 - 9:46

NigelUno wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

So to clarify do you put the '09 stimulus on Bush or Obama?

Can you clarify what Trump has done to lower the deficit?

Be specific. Thanks.

Nigel I have really been enjoying your posts lately. 10/10 Trumpster trolling, keep it up buddy.
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Post by Guest on Tue 28 Feb 2017 - 11:16

AnomanderRake wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

So to clarify do you put the '09 stimulus on Bush or Obama?

The Stimulus package was mostly drafted into law by Democrats in Congress and signed into law by President Obama. Nearly every republican voted against it so the stimulus package for all its benefits and shortcomings falls on the democratic party, though I recall they did make some concessions to republicans, I can't remember what those concessions were but I'm sure it had something to do with taxes on the wealthy.

That's a pretty accurate description although I don't know about the tax part, I'd have to research that. I do know this - when partisan websites like TPM and Kos calculate the "Bush deficits" vs the "Obama deficits" they lay the '09 budget which was modified to include the Stimulus on Bush since it was originally his budget. Most news orgs go along with that, which is pure bullshit.
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Post by AnomanderRake on Tue 28 Feb 2017 - 11:36

LooseGoose wrote:
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The Stimulus package was mostly drafted into law by Democrats in Congress and signed into law by President Obama. Nearly every republican voted against it so the stimulus package for all its benefits and shortcomings falls on the democratic party, though I recall they did make some concessions to republicans, I can't remember what those concessions were but I'm sure it had something to do with taxes on the wealthy.

That's a pretty accurate description although I don't know about the tax part, I'd have to research that. I do know this - when partisan websites like TPM and Kos calculate the "Bush deficits" vs the "Obama deficits" they lay the '09 budget which was modified to include the Stimulus on Bush since it was originally his budget. Most news orgs go along with that, which is pure bullshit.

Yeah I've seen that. Budgets are way over-attributed to Presidents just because they sign them. The reality is that budgets are done by Congress and whichever party has control of congress will control the vast majority of budget decisions at that time. The President is more or less forced to approve a budget at some point, even if they're not 100% on board with it.

Usually this results in the winning party being able to do whatever they want with the budget at least until mid-term elections.
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Post by Guest on Wed 8 Mar 2017 - 8:41

+298,000 jobs in February according to ADP. 100,000 more than anticipated.

Too bad people won't be able to enjoy their new jobs as the world goes to hell.
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Post by Guest on Thu 9 Mar 2017 - 15:00

U.S. Consumer Comfort Just Reached Its Highest Level in a Decade

You wouldn't know it by the continual panic in here.....

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Consumer comfort index rose to 50.6 in the period ended March 5, the highest since March 2007, from 49.8

Measure has exceeded 50 just six times since April 2002

Gauge of economy advanced to 48.2, the highest since August 2001, from 46.8

Buying-climate measure rose to 44.5, the strongest reading since April 2002, from 43.7

Index of personal finances was little changed at 58.9 versus 59
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