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TravelinMan wrote:GRR Spartan wrote:Zurn doesn’t even live in the US.
He works for Putin. He’s got job security so long as he keeps up he “regular American” persona on The Swill and other message boards. If he doesn’t he falls off a 5th floor balcony, shot while walking on a St Petersburg bridge or just hacked to death in his apartment.
Everything Zurn posts is right out of the Putin approved Doppelgänger script.
Yep, Putin's highest priority is having someone posing on tSwill hoping Grramps reads it and changes his mind.
As Travis often tells me, you just don't understand how social media works. So yes, Putin is trying to do that.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-dark-brandon-memes-2024-election-2e31e2347d1045babf1229fe210dddf5
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And now the reason I came to this thread, today...
https://www.axios.com/2024/06/18/trump-gop-scotus-musk-shame
The 99% has lost any influence we may have had with the wealthy, so a political revolution is the only option.
Vote only for Democratic candidates.
https://www.axios.com/2024/06/18/trump-gop-scotus-musk-shame
The 99% has lost any influence we may have had with the wealthy, so a political revolution is the only option.
Vote only for Democratic candidates.
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Between 2014 and 2018, the 25 wealthiest Americans collectively earned $401bn, but paid just $13.6bn – about 3.4% of that – in taxes, according to a bombshell ProPublica investigation into the finances of the wealthiest Americans released on Wednesday.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/13/wealthiest-americans-tax-income-propublica-investigation
https://projects.propublica.org/americas-highest-incomes-and-taxes-revealed/
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Trapper Gus wrote:And now the reason I came to this thread, today...
https://www.axios.com/2024/06/18/trump-gop-scotus-musk-shame
The 99% has lost any influence we may have had with the wealthy, so a political revolution is the only option.
Vote only for Democratic candidates.
Given all the January 6 outrage, you really think calling for the Poors to attempt political revolution is a good look?
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TravelinMan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:And now the reason I came to this thread, today...
https://www.axios.com/2024/06/18/trump-gop-scotus-musk-shame
The 99% has lost any influence we may have had with the wealthy, so a political revolution is the only option.
Vote only for Democratic candidates.
Given all the January 6 outrage, you really think calling for the Poors to attempt political revolution is a good look?
It sort of figures that you don't know the difference between an armed rebellion, like the one we had in 1861 & 2021 and a political revolution like the one we had in the 1770's, 1860's with the 13th & 14th, 1930's with the New Deal, 1960's with the Civil Rights Act / Voting Rights Act / Medicare / Medicaid Acts, 1980's with the Reagan Revolution & now in the 2020s with the Bidenomics Revolution.
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Please stopTrapper Gus wrote:TravelinMan wrote:
Given all the January 6 outrage, you really think calling for the Poors to attempt political revolution is a good look?
It sort of figures that you don't know the difference between an armed rebellion, like the one we had in 1861 & 2021 and a political revolution like the one we had in the 1770's, 1860's with the 13th & 14th, 1930's with the New Deal, 1960's with the Civil Rights Act / Voting Rights Act / Medicare / Medicaid Acts, 1980's with the Reagan Revolution & now in the 2020s with the Bidenomics Revolution.
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Please stopTrapper Gus wrote:
It sort of figures that you don't know the difference between an armed rebellion, like the one we had in 1861 & 2021 and a political revolution like the one we had in the 1770's, 1860's with the 13th & 14th, 1930's with the New Deal, 1960's with the Civil Rights Act / Voting Rights Act / Medicare / Medicaid Acts, 1980's with the Reagan Revolution & now in the 2020s with the Bidenomics Revolution.
TBF, he didn't say it was a good revolution.
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TravelinMan wrote:Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Please stop
TBF, he didn't say it was a good revolution.
By the economic numbers it is, though. Only fly in the honey is inflation, and if we keep at antitrust the way it used to be, and fix the laxity of laws regarding stock manipulation and corporate compensation we can have a new golden age for the workers in this country
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Trapper Gus wrote:TravelinMan wrote:
TBF, he didn't say it was a good revolution.
By the economic numbers it is, though. Only fly in the honey is inflation, and if we keep at antitrust the way it used to be, and fix the laxity of laws regarding stock manipulation and corporate compensation we can have a new golden age for the workers in this country
I know you believe that. The question will be, does the rest of the voting public?
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TravelinMan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
By the economic numbers it is, though. Only fly in the honey is inflation, and if we keep at antitrust the way it used to be, and fix the laxity of laws regarding stock manipulation and corporate compensation we can have a new golden age for the workers in this country
I know you believe that. The question will be, does the rest of the voting public?
Oh the polls say no, but we will just need to wait until November, and then till January, to see who wins.
It sucks, for me, to see Joe who has been outstanding on the details of governing to be struggling against a corporate press with all its anti-Biden propaganda.
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Trapper Gus wrote:TravelinMan wrote:
I know you believe that. The question will be, does the rest of the voting public?
Oh the polls say no, but we will just need to wait until November, and then till January, to see who wins.
It sucks, for me, to see Joe who has been outstanding on the details of governing to be struggling against a corporate press with all its anti-Biden propaganda.
Goddammit, I can't help myself! Sigh...
OK, why do you think that a "corporate press" which has traditionally been accused of being left wing liberal institutions, would have an anti-Biden agenda? Corporate greed? Clicks? LOLZ?
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TravelinMan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
Oh the polls say no, but we will just need to wait until November, and then till January, to see who wins.
It sucks, for me, to see Joe who has been outstanding on the details of governing to be struggling against a corporate press with all its anti-Biden propaganda.
Goddammit, I can't help myself! Sigh...
OK, why do you think that a "corporate press" which has traditionally been accused of being left wing liberal institutions, would have an anti-Biden agenda? Corporate greed? Clicks? LOLZ?
Okay Travis what do I do when asked a question?
It is a myth that the published press is full of left-wing liberal institutions. This myth was created to stop the press from covering the conservatives fairly (the conservatives trying to "work the refs"). Most of the publishers are Republicans after all. The major outlets have been negatively biased about the Democratic Party since at least the 1990's during Bill Clinton's campaign. tNYT spend months and months putting stories about Clinton's e-mails above the fold on page one while ignoring almost all of Trump's much worst transgression and in this election Biden's age has been their headline story while they ignore Trump's rambling non-connected speeches.
So I don't really have a "why" just the observations that the press is attacking Biden about things that no one cared about until the press made it a "deal".
Enough, we seem to be bothering Travis.
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Oh stop being a baby. I just find it personally offensive when you compare Biden’s economic plans to the civil rights act is all. That’s silly nonsense.
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Oh stop being a baby. I just find it personally offensive when you compare Biden’s economic plans to the civil rights act is all. That’s silly nonsense.
Sigh - in the tone of voice you are using I suppose it is...
However, it also is a revolution in politics, the end of the Reagan neoliberal coddling of the wealthy "job creators" and a revolution to focusing on the working middle class in federal economic policy.
The actions Biden has taken are recognized as a revolution in thought & policy.
As to Biden's civil rights bonafide's, he has appointed more minorities and women to Federal Judgeships as all the other Presidents combined. that may not seem like much; however it will have a long-term effect of rulings in federal courtrooms.
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Trapper Gus wrote:Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Oh stop being a baby. I just find it personally offensive when you compare Biden’s economic plans to the civil rights act is all. That’s silly nonsense.
Sigh - in the tone of voice you are using I suppose it is...
However, it also is a revolution in politics, the end of the Reagan neoliberal coddling of the wealthy "job creators" and a revolution to focusing on the working middle class in federal economic policy.
The actions Biden has taken are recognized as a revolution in thought & policy.
As to Biden's civil rights bonafide's, he has appointed more minorities and women to Federal Judgeships as all the other Presidents combined. that may not seem like much; however it will have a long-term effect of rulings in federal courtrooms.
Saying things makes them true.
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Cameron wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
Sigh - in the tone of voice you are using I suppose it is...
However, it also is a revolution in politics, the end of the Reagan neoliberal coddling of the wealthy "job creators" and a revolution to focusing on the working middle class in federal economic policy.
The actions Biden has taken are recognized as a revolution in thought & policy.
As to Biden's civil rights bonafide's, he has appointed more minorities and women to Federal Judgeships as all the other Presidents combined. that may not seem like much; however it will have a long-term effect of rulings in federal courtrooms.
Saying things makes them true.
Almost every political revolution starts with people saying things.
Biden is the first President since before the Reagan Administration to be saying that the wealthy need to be taxed to pay for programs to help the middle class.
Obama kept his promise to the Kenndy's and (with Biden's help BTW) managed to pass the ACA, which did include some taxes, but was mostly funded by shifting money from other programs. Obama also kept one of the Wall Street bankers as his Treasury Secretary (if I remember correctly), Mr. Rubin and Obama was still following Clinton's "third way" thinking. Biden has gone far beyond that with his "build the economy from the middle out" talk.
Other Democratic Presidents have raised taxes on the wealthy while also cutting programs for the middle class in deficit reductions, but ever since Reagan they haven't been focused on programs, such as the now expired Child Tax Credits, which Biden pushed through the Conservative Democratic Senators in the 117th Congress.
Biden has talked the talk and walked the walk to the extent the Congress would allow, and it is questionable that any other potential Democratic candidate from 2020 could have done as much with the razor thin majorities in the House & Senate.
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Trapper Gus wrote:Cameron wrote:
Saying things makes them true.
Almost every political revolution starts with people saying things.
Biden is the first President since before the Reagan Administration to be saying that the wealthy need to be taxed to pay for programs to help the middle class.
Obama kept his promise to the Kenndy's and (with Biden's help BTW) managed to pass the ACA, which did include some taxes, but was mostly funded by shifting money from other programs. Obama also kept one of the Wall Street bankers as his Treasury Secretary (if I remember correctly), Mr. Rubin and Obama was still following Clinton's "third way" thinking. Biden has gone far beyond that with his "build the economy from the middle out" talk.
Other Democratic Presidents have raised taxes on the wealthy while also cutting programs for the middle class in deficit reductions, but ever since Reagan they haven't been focused on programs, such as the now expired Child Tax Credits, which Biden pushed through the Conservative Democratic Senators in the 117th Congress.
Biden has talked the talk and walked the walk to the extent the Congress would allow, and it is questionable that any other potential Democratic candidate from 2020 could have done as much with the razor thin majorities in the House & Senate.
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TravelinMan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
Almost every political revolution starts with people saying things.
Biden is the first President since before the Reagan Administration to be saying that the wealthy need to be taxed to pay for programs to help the middle class.
Obama kept his promise to the Kenndy's and (with Biden's help BTW) managed to pass the ACA, which did include some taxes, but was mostly funded by shifting money from other programs. Obama also kept one of the Wall Street bankers as his Treasury Secretary (if I remember correctly), Mr. Rubin and Obama was still following Clinton's "third way" thinking. Biden has gone far beyond that with his "build the economy from the middle out" talk.
Other Democratic Presidents have raised taxes on the wealthy while also cutting programs for the middle class in deficit reductions, but ever since Reagan they haven't been focused on programs, such as the now expired Child Tax Credits, which Biden pushed through the Conservative Democratic Senators in the 117th Congress.
Biden has talked the talk and walked the walk to the extent the Congress would allow, and it is questionable that any other potential Democratic candidate from 2020 could have done as much with the razor thin majorities in the House & Senate.
Being the tallest midget doesn't make you an NBA center.
Biden getting it done is driving you crazy.
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Now that the fundraising totals for May are out, it appears that Trump has absolutely crushed President Joe Biden’s campaign, raising an astounding $141 million
Of Trump’s funding, $50 million came from a single check from wealthy banking family scion Tim Mellon.
Mellon is the heir to a fortune that goes back to the Gilded Age. His family's $14 billion net worth is based on wealth that Mellon’s great-grandfather bequeathed in 1908. New York Times reports, Mellon has become the first person in this cycle—and perhaps the first person in history—to spend $100 million in a single election. That includes $75 million to Trump and $25 million to spoiler candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
The second biggest source of funding for Trump’s MAGA Inc. super PAC in May was $10 million from billionaires Richard and Elizabeth Uihlein. Richard Uihlein owns a company that produces bubble wrap and shipping products, but his wealth originated from his lucky position as the heir to the Schlitz family's brewing fortune. His great-grandfather also saddled his family with a pile of money.
Trump is being bankrolled by a coalition of billionaires who have never known hardship, but sure have a lot of complaints about the people who have faced struggles in their lives. Elon Musk—another fortunate son—has been bringing together groups of billionaires to meet with Trump, plot over how to fund his campaign, and make it clear that if anyone gives money to Biden, he will be furious.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/6/21/2247787/-Trump-s-cash-isn-t-from-the-masses-but-the-billionaire-boys-club?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_7&pm_medium=web
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So, it is clear, Trump & the Republicans are owned by probably less the 50 families while Biden & the Democratics are representing the other 99.99%
Of Trump’s funding, $50 million came from a single check from wealthy banking family scion Tim Mellon.
Mellon is the heir to a fortune that goes back to the Gilded Age. His family's $14 billion net worth is based on wealth that Mellon’s great-grandfather bequeathed in 1908. New York Times reports, Mellon has become the first person in this cycle—and perhaps the first person in history—to spend $100 million in a single election. That includes $75 million to Trump and $25 million to spoiler candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
The second biggest source of funding for Trump’s MAGA Inc. super PAC in May was $10 million from billionaires Richard and Elizabeth Uihlein. Richard Uihlein owns a company that produces bubble wrap and shipping products, but his wealth originated from his lucky position as the heir to the Schlitz family's brewing fortune. His great-grandfather also saddled his family with a pile of money.
Trump is being bankrolled by a coalition of billionaires who have never known hardship, but sure have a lot of complaints about the people who have faced struggles in their lives. Elon Musk—another fortunate son—has been bringing together groups of billionaires to meet with Trump, plot over how to fund his campaign, and make it clear that if anyone gives money to Biden, he will be furious.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/6/21/2247787/-Trump-s-cash-isn-t-from-the-masses-but-the-billionaire-boys-club?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_7&pm_medium=web
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So, it is clear, Trump & the Republicans are owned by probably less the 50 families while Biden & the Democratics are representing the other 99.99%
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I think you meant to put this in a different thread trappy Mctraps.
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Oh I read it and no you didn’t. lol Jesus Christ this fuckin guy
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Isn't class warfare when one class, say the super wealthy, try to take over the country and oppress other classes.
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Its the very definition of class warfare.Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Oh I read it and no you didn’t. lol Jesus Christ this fuckin guy
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Unfortunately, no, none of them are on your side, try and try as you might because our perfect Catholic hero would never take a donation 6x the size of the one you mentioned
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/the-64-million-mystery-anonymous-donations-2024-presidential-campaign/
And good. Because despite you clowns I still will vote for Biden, but goddamn does the make believe land you live in get tiresome
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/the-64-million-mystery-anonymous-donations-2024-presidential-campaign/
And good. Because despite you clowns I still will vote for Biden, but goddamn does the make believe land you live in get tiresome
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Just imagine if all these rich cocksuckers who are giving millions of dollars in political donations instead gave that money to charity. The amount we spend on political campaigns in this country is obscene.
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Unfortunately, no, none of them are on your side, try and try as you might because our perfect Catholic hero (to belittle the guy that is more on your side is stupid, Travis. Needling me with that is even stupider as I readily admit Biden's, flaws, unlike you who blame Biden for not being a perfect Catholic hero, which if you think about it is really a suppressed wish that he was one. - TG) would never take a donation 6x the size of the one you mentioned
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/the-64-million-mystery-anonymous-donations-2024-presidential-campaign/
And good. Because despite you clowns I still will vote for Biden, but goddamn does the make believe land you live in get tiresome
Yes, both sides follow the law, which really isn't the point of my post.
My point, for those who see, to be intent on missing it, is that a few billionaires are trying to take over the country and change the government entirely to their liking, eliminates representative government for the rest of us. When two people give almost 50% of the money Trump pulled in publicly, they are not hiding what they are doing, nor why. It absolutely is class warfare. (Trump is getting most of his support from a few people, Biden still has a much broader population of doners, even though there are some big money ones too)
Of course, the Republicans on the court set this all in motion with some asinine rulings about money being free speech & corporations being people after Congress had passed laws to control that. I keep telling you this is a war between the evil Republicans and the less evil Democratics and you all keep pooh-poohing that as hyperbole, and focusing on the lesser evil flaws, just like the billionaires want you to. I wish it was hyperbole, but it has been ongoing since FDR and will continue forever. The wealthy have the patience and money to win a war of attrition and it looks like they have.
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Trapper Gus wrote:I readily admit Biden's, flaws
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Cameron wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:I readily admit Biden's, flaws
I really wouldn't expect you, with your bivalued view of reality, to understand multivalued logical statements, and you don't disappoint.
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Bivalue, multivalue, no value, you're in there somewhere...
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Cameron wrote:Bivalue, multivalue, no value, you're in there somewhere...
I have been quite clear on this, but to refresh your (seemingly faulty) memory I think that a continuous multivalued logic best maps to the reality we see around us.
Your political statements suggest that you, like many others, are caught up in the bivalued, true & false, logic which has, IMO, poisoned human thinking since we began to think.
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Oh yes, silly me, how could I not remember that Trapper thinks continuous multivalued logic best maps onto reality? My memory is surely faulty, he's been quite clear. And it's not like he posts 50,000 words of drivel a day on tBin, so it is totally manageable to commit all of his inane ramblings to memory.
Truly, yours is an unpoisoned brain.
Truly, yours is an unpoisoned brain.
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Cameron wrote:Oh yes, silly me, how could I not remember that Trapper thinks continuous multivalued logic best maps onto reality? My memory is surely faulty, he's been quite clear. And it's not like he posts 50,000 words of drivel a day on tBin, so it is totally manageable to commit all of his inane ramblings to memory.
Truly, yours is an unpoisoned brain.
No brain is unpoisoned, not even Biden's.
Surely from now on you will have some chance of knowing my preferences in logical analysis. Fuzzy Logic based on Fuzzy Set Theory.
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It sort of figures that you don't know the difference between an armed rebellion, like the one we had in 1861 & 2021
You think Jan 6 and the Civil War were equivalent events?
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It sort of figures that you don't know the difference between an armed rebellion, like the one we had in 1861 & 2021
You think Jan 6 and the Civil War were equivalent events?
To be a bit snarky we are not done with the Jan 6th thing yet. In thought they are big political upheaval, so generally yes I do.
Only the ignorant think the War of Rebellion, (only the people who support the rebels call it the civil war) was only about military domination.
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Only the ignorant think the War of Rebellion, (only the people who support the rebels call it the civil war) was only about military domination.
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
—Abraham Lincoln
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whoever wrote that sounds woke.Zurn wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
Only the ignorant think the War of Rebellion, (only the people who support the rebels call it the civil war) was only about military domination.
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
—Abraham Lincoln
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Trapper Gus wrote:Only the ignorant think the War of Rebellion, (only the people who support the rebels call it the civil war) was only about military domination.
Dude, fucking everyone calls it the civil war. I think you might literally be the the only person I've ever heard/seen commit to the "War of Rebellion" thing. It's the civil war.
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