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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 08:42

then the second most important story of the day at Fox News - once again.. about the scary brown lady.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2019-02-08, 09:10

For the laughs I checked out the Fox News website. At the moment I see five different AOC stories on the front page. They're giving here Trump levels of attention. She's probably going to run for president sometime down the road if this trend keeps up.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 09:38

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:For the laughs I checked out the Fox News website. At the moment I see five different AOC stories on the front page. They're giving here Trump levels of attention. She's probably going to run for president sometime down the road if this trend keeps up.
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Post by kingstonlake on 2019-02-08, 09:46

Get use to it.  This is who the GOP will be running against in 2020.  This will be the brush the GOP paints their picture of the left with.  She will be who they scare the independent voter with.  She makes no bones about going full socialist.  They will use every word out of her mouth and attach it to democrats. The Dems have a good thing going.  I'm telling you, this has a potential to fuck things up really bad.  God bless her.  She stands up for what she believes.  But some of the stuff that comes out of her mouth is flat out ridiculous.  We are a cult of personality society.  I've never seen a freshman member of congress with more airtime and camera time than her.  She is not ready for this.  If Dem's have to fight a war on two fronts (Trump & AOC) they will not gain nearly what is out their to be gained.  The last thing I want to see in a primary debate or Presidential debate is half the damn 2 hours spent on "AOC said this, what is your position on AOC's statement that...do you agree with AOC that...." They need to be running and campaigning against racist and Trump. Not defending and deflecting from their own party.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 09:48

kingstonlake wrote:Get use to it. This is who the GOP will be running against in 2020. This will be the brush the GOP paints their picture of the left with. She will be who they scare the independent voter with. She makes no bones about going full socialist. They will use every word out of her mouth and attach it to democrats. The Dems have a good thing going. I'm telling you, this has a potential to fuck things up really bad. God bless her. She stands up for what she believes. But some of the stuff that comes out of her mouth is flat out ridiculous. We are a cult of personality society. I've never seen a freshman member of congress with more airtime and camera time than her. She is not ready for this. If Dem's have to fight a war on two fronts (Trump & AOC) they will not gain nearly what is out their to be gained. The last thing I want to see in a primary debate or Presidential debate is half the damn 2 hours spent on "AOC said this, what is your position on AOC's statement that...do you agree with AOC that...."
it took the GOP and mainstream media nearly 30 years to fully demonize Hillary. Unlike AOC, though, I think Hillary thought she could rise above it so she just smiled and went on her way. AOC ain't having none of it - which is awesome.

America is a stupid country - and if they listen to the GOP and mainstream media as 2020 gets closer and closer, we'll get what we deserve - just like we did with the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator.

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Post by steveschneider on 2019-02-08, 09:53

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:For the laughs I checked out the Fox News website. At the moment I see five different AOC stories on the front page. They're giving here Trump levels of attention. She's probably going to run for president sometime down the road if this trend keeps up.

She probably will. She's off to a strong start and her following is growing. A lot of the causes she speaks about on CNN or in committees or where ever really resonate with a lot of people. It's shocking to hear some one speak the truth like that in Washington or on mainstream media.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 09:57

steveschneider wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:For the laughs I checked out the Fox News website. At the moment I see five different AOC stories on the front page. They're giving here Trump levels of attention. She's probably going to run for president sometime down the road if this trend keeps up.

She probably will. She's off to a strong start and her following is growing. A lot of the causes she speaks about on CNN or in committees or where ever really resonate with a lot of people. It's shocking to hear some one speak the truth like that in Washington or on mainstream media.
we're so conditioned to hear the same corporate-driven drivel.. it's fun to watch her drive people insane.

and the young folks love her - which is great, as well. America needs them to engage and be involved (which is another reason she terrifies the political/media elite).
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 10:40

Fox News has up a new AOC story for their racist, bigoted misogynist sheep to attempt to read..

(sound it out, folks.. one syllable at a time)...

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Post by Jake from State Farm on 2019-02-08, 11:01

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Fox News has up a new AOC story for their racist, bigoted misogynist sheep to attempt to read..

(sound it out, folks.. one syllable at a time)...

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They're going to need the new taxes for what she has in mind.
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-02-08, 12:00

Jake from State Farm wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Fox News has up a new AOC story for their racist, bigoted misogynist sheep to attempt to read..

(sound it out, folks.. one syllable at a time)...

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They're going to need the new taxes for what she has in mind.

I’m pretty ok with that marginal tax rate increase. Rich people can suck it.
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Post by kingstonlake on 2019-02-08, 12:01

steveschneider wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:For the laughs I checked out the Fox News website. At the moment I see five different AOC stories on the front page. They're giving here Trump levels of attention. She's probably going to run for president sometime down the road if this trend keeps up.

She probably will. She's off to a strong start and her following is growing. A lot of the causes she speaks about on CNN or in committees or where ever really resonate with a lot of people. It's shocking to hear some one speak the truth like that in Washington or on mainstream media.

She may be. But she's also said the world will end in 12 years, that air travel will be obsolete in 10, and that we should make those unwilling to work financially stable.
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Post by steveschneider on 2019-02-08, 12:09

kingstonlake wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

She probably will. She's off to a strong start and her following is growing. A lot of the causes she speaks about on CNN or in committees or where ever really resonate with a lot of people. It's shocking to hear some one speak the truth like that in Washington or on mainstream media.

She may be. But she's also said the world will end in 12 years, that air travel will be obsolete in 10, and that we should make those unwilling to work financially stable.

All of the current global warming reports are more dire and show that it's moving faster than we anticipated. Also, she's not the first to bat around the idea of universal income. Millions of people are going to lose their jobs before too long because of AI and automation. It's a huge problem that experts are saying will happen quick - what's the solution?
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2019-02-08, 12:20

steveschneider wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

She may be. But she's also said the world will end in 12 years, that air travel will be obsolete in 10, and that we should make those unwilling to work financially stable.

All of the current global warming reports are more dire and show that it's moving faster than we anticipated. Also, she's not the first to bat around the idea of universal income. Millions of people are going to lose their jobs before too long because of AI and automation. It's a huge problem that experts are saying will happen quick - what's the solution?
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/18/elon-musk-says-robots-will-push-us-to-a-universal-basic-income-heres-how-it-would-work.html
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 12:21

kingstonlake wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

She probably will. She's off to a strong start and her following is growing. A lot of the causes she speaks about on CNN or in committees or where ever really resonate with a lot of people. It's shocking to hear some one speak the truth like that in Washington or on mainstream media.

She may be.  But she's also said the world will end in 12 years, that air travel will be obsolete in 10, and that we should make those unwilling to work financially stable.
you have a link for her saying that?? Sounds like the sort of thing the mainstream media would try to convince people she said.

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Post by steveschneider on 2019-02-08, 12:27

Floyd Robertson wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

All of the current global warming reports are more dire and show that it's moving faster than we anticipated. Also, she's not the first to bat around the idea of universal income. Millions of people are going to lose their jobs before too long because of AI and automation. It's a huge problem that experts are saying will happen quick - what's the solution?
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/18/elon-musk-says-robots-will-push-us-to-a-universal-basic-income-heres-how-it-would-work.html

Yep, he's definitely one I had in mind on the topic of universal income. Zuckerberg has brought it up, Tulsi Gabbard and so on. Pretty hard to pick yourself up by the boot straps and get a job when an intelligent machine can do your job cheaper and better than you.
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Post by msugolfguy on 2019-02-08, 12:31

steveschneider wrote:

Yep, he's definitely one I had in mind on the topic of universal income. Zuckerberg has brought it up, Tulsi Gabbard and so on. Pretty hard to pick yourself up by the boot straps and get a job when an intelligent machine can do your job cheaper and better than you.

Those that can't work will just die off. We will never pass a basic income in America. The population will shrink drastically and the new world will be interesting. Only so many resources in the world.

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Post by kingstonlake on 2019-02-08, 12:38

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

She may be.  But she's also said the world will end in 12 years, that air travel will be obsolete in 10, and that we should make those unwilling to work financially stable.
you have a link for her saying that?? Sounds like the sort of thing the mainstream media would try to convince people she said.


https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

10 year plan to eliminate fossil fuels entirely.  Good luck....

Among the most prominent, the deal calls for "meeting 100 percent of the power demand in the United States through clean, renewable, and zero-emission energy sources." The ultimate goal is to stop using fossil fuels entirely, Ocasio-Cortez's office told NPR, as well as to transition away from nuclear energy.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 12:44

kingstonlake wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
you have a link for her saying that?? Sounds like the sort of thing the mainstream media would try to convince people she said.


https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

10 year plan to eliminate fossil fuels entirely.  Good luck....

Among the most prominent, the deal calls for "meeting 100 percent of the power demand in the United States through clean, renewable, and zero-emission energy sources." The ultimate goal is to stop using fossil fuels entirely, Ocasio-Cortez's office told NPR, as well as to transition away from nuclear energy.
so she didn't say that.. right?

(maybe I'm confused)
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Post by Heat Miser on 2019-02-08, 13:02

kingstonlake wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

She may be.  But she's also said the world will end in 12 years, that air travel will be obsolete in 10, and that we should make those unwilling to work financially stable.
you have a link for her saying that?? Sounds like the sort of thing the mainstream media would try to convince people she said.


https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

10 year plan to eliminate fossil fuels entirely.  Good luck....

Among the most prominent, the deal calls for "meeting 100 percent of the power demand in the United States through clean, renewable, and zero-emission energy sources." The ultimate goal is to stop using fossil fuels entirely, Ocasio-Cortez's office told NPR, as well as to transition away from nuclear energy.

1. It's ok to have goals.
2. Isn't it kind of stupid at this stage of human evolution to still be digging shit out of the ground and burning it when there are better alternatives?


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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 13:04

Heat Miser wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

10 year plan to eliminate fossil fuels entirely.  Good luck....

1. It's ok to have goals.
2. Isn't it kind of stupid at this stage of human evolution to still be digging shit out of the ground and burning it when there are better alternatives?
I don't want the world to end in 12 years (sounds like the sort of thing some jesus freak would say.. I'm guessing she didn't actually say that) - but I'm perfectly okay with no fossil fuels. Goals are good.

I get the feeling it's just people trying to create controversy/find someone to demonize/get clicks.
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Post by steveschneider on 2019-02-08, 13:06

Heat Miser wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

10 year plan to eliminate fossil fuels entirely.  Good luck....

1. It's ok to have goals.
2. Isn't it kind of stupid at this stage of human evolution to still be digging shit out of the ground and burning it when there are better alternatives?

Been looking at solar panel roof tiles and geo thermal heat/cooling system for my house. Also, I've been shopping for a used Prius.

50+MPG on the roads and once I pay off the costs of the upgrades to the house not paying heat electric bills seems like a great idea to me. Added perk it's green and better for the environment.
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Post by msugolfguy on 2019-02-08, 13:06

Heat Miser wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

10 year plan to eliminate fossil fuels entirely.  Good luck....

1. It's ok to have goals.
2. Isn't it kind of stupid at this stage of human evolution to still be digging shit out of the ground and burning it when there are better alternatives?

You do realize you're going against the takers v makers. Tea Party crowd. Right? What gives you any sort of confidence that group will compromise on anything?
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Post by Heat Miser on 2019-02-08, 13:13

msugolfguy wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

10 year plan to eliminate fossil fuels entirely.  Good luck....

1. It's ok to have goals.
2. Isn't it kind of stupid at this stage of human evolution to still be digging shit out of the ground and burning it when there are better alternatives?

You do realize you're going against the takers v makers. Tea Party crowd. Right? What gives you any sort of confidence that group will compromise on anything?

It's long overdue for the tail to stop wagging the dog on a large number of issues. The fucking Tea Party can go fucking fuck themselves.


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Post by kingstonlake on 2019-02-08, 13:13

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

10 year plan to eliminate fossil fuels entirely.  Good luck....

so she didn't say that.. right?

(maybe I'm confused)

Yes, she said it. It's in her Green plan. Why would you eliminate fossil fuels entirely? It's a resource that invites competition and ingenuity. Would you like the fossil fuel industry to say they want renewable energy sources eliminated completely? We all hate the fossil fuel monopoly. We don't want a zero emission one either. I would like the option to fly, take rail, drive, etc to go to British Columbia. Whatever offers me the best deal for my money and time.
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Post by Heat Miser on 2019-02-08, 13:16

kingstonlake wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

10 year plan to eliminate fossil fuels entirely.  Good luck....

so she didn't say that.. right?

(maybe I'm confused)

Yes, she said it. It's in her Green plan. Why would you eliminate fossil fuels entirely? It's a resource that invites competition and ingenuity. Would you like the fossil fuel industry to say they want renewable energy sources eliminated completely? We all hate the fossil fuel monopoly. We don't want a zero emission one either. I would like the option to fly, take rail, drive, etc to go to British Columbia. Whatever offers me the best deal for my money and time.

She did not say the world will end in 12 years. Rolling Eyes
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Post by msugolfguy on 2019-02-08, 13:20

Heat Miser wrote:
msugolfguy wrote:

You do realize you're going against the takers v makers. Tea Party crowd. Right? What gives you any sort of confidence that group will compromise on anything?

It's long overdue for the tail to stop wagging the dog on a large number of issues. The fucking Tea Party can go fucking fuck themselves.

That's a big hill to climb. You got 30 percent that will automatically disagree with you. Plus you have Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter saying people will just move and the free market will take care of the situation if Global Warming is real.

You got AOC trotting this out. Bold strategy.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 13:21

kingstonlake wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
so she didn't say that.. right?

(maybe I'm confused)

Yes, she said it. It's in her Green plan. Why would you eliminate fossil fuels entirely? It's a resource that invites competition and ingenuity. Would you like the fossil fuel industry to say they want renewable energy sources eliminated completely? We all hate the fossil fuel monopoly. We don't want a zero emission one either. I would like the option to fly, take rail, drive, etc to go to British Columbia. Whatever offers me the best deal for my money and time.
so she said the world will end in 12 years and air travel will be obsolete in 10??

she said that??

oh - and we can differ on fossil fuels and our preference for them. That's a matter of opinion. I'm just curious if she actually said the other things or if that's what the media is saying that she said.

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Post by Heat Miser on 2019-02-08, 13:22

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https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5731829-Ocasio-Cortez-Green-New-Deal-Resolution

10 year plan to eliminate fossil fuels entirely.  Good luck....

so she didn't say that.. right?

(maybe I'm confused)

Yes, she said it. It's in her Green plan. Why would you eliminate fossil fuels entirely? It's a resource that invites competition and ingenuity. Would you like the fossil fuel industry to say they want renewable energy sources eliminated completely? We all hate the fossil fuel monopoly. We don't want a zero emission one either. I would like the option to fly, take rail, drive, etc to go to British Columbia. Whatever offers me the best deal for my money and time.

She did not say the world will end in 12 years. Rolling Eyes

Also, I just read that document. Have you read it? Because it does not contain the words "eliminate fossil fuels entirely". So no, she didn't say that either. Are you making this shit up yourself or getting it from Faux News?
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Post by Heat Miser on 2019-02-08, 13:25

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You do realize you're going against the takers v makers. Tea Party crowd. Right? What gives you any sort of confidence that group will compromise on anything?

It's long overdue for the tail to stop wagging the dog on a large number of issues. The fucking Tea Party can go fucking fuck themselves.

That's a big hill to climb. You got 30 percent that will automatically disagree with you. Plus you have Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter saying people will just move and the free market will take care of the situation if Global Warming is real.

You got AOC trotting this out. Bold strategy.

Again, it's ok to have goals. The NRA has a goal to put a gun (or two) in every hand. The Jesus freaks have a goal to overturn Roe. The racists have a goal to...you get the idea.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 13:26

Heat Miser wrote:
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That's a big hill to climb. You got 30 percent that will automatically disagree with you. Plus you have Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter saying people will just move and the free market will take care of the situation if Global Warming is real.

You got AOC trotting this out. Bold strategy.

Again, it's ok to have goals. The NRA has a goal to put a gun (or two) in every hand. The Jesus freaks have a goal to overturn Roe. The racists have a goal to...you get the idea.
have you always been this saucy on the board??

if so, I don't recall it - I like the saucy Heat Miser... I feel like I've noticed more sauce as of late.
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Post by Heat Miser on 2019-02-08, 13:52

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
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That's a big hill to climb. You got 30 percent that will automatically disagree with you. Plus you have Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Ann Coulter saying people will just move and the free market will take care of the situation if Global Warming is real.

You got AOC trotting this out. Bold strategy.

Again, it's ok to have goals. The NRA has a goal to put a gun (or two) in every hand. The Jesus freaks have a goal to overturn Roe. The racists have a goal to...you get the idea.
have you always been this saucy on the board??

if so, I don't recall it - I like the saucy Heat Miser... I feel like I've noticed more sauce as of late.

Blame it on Nancy Pelosi.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 13:53

Heat Miser wrote:
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have you always been this saucy on the board??

if so, I don't recall it - I like the saucy Heat Miser... I feel like I've noticed more sauce as of late.

Blame it on Nancy Pelosi.
honest to god - a month ago, if you asked me about Pelosi, I was like "yeah, sure.. whatever".

now I'm like "she is a rock star" - love that woman.

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Post by Heat Miser on 2019-02-08, 14:06

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
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have you always been this saucy on the board??

if so, I don't recall it - I like the saucy Heat Miser... I feel like I've noticed more sauce as of late.

Blame it on Nancy Pelosi.
honest to god - a month ago, if you asked me about Pelosi, I was like "yeah, sure.. whatever".

now I'm like "she is a rock star" - love that woman.


She's the hero we all need at this dark hour. And for the AOC hand-wringers, here's a thought...what if this is all part of Nancy's fiendish plot. AOC does the distraction/misdirection while Nancy runs circles around Orange Fuckface and the Wingnuts. ???

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-02-08, 14:13

Heat Miser wrote:
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honest to god - a month ago, if you asked me about Pelosi, I was like "yeah, sure.. whatever".

now I'm like "she is a rock star" - love that woman.


She's the hero we all need at this dark hour. And for the AOC hand-wringers, here's a thought...what if this is all part of Nancy's fiendish plot. AOC does the distraction/misdirection while Nancy runs circles around Orange Fuckface and the Wingnuts. ???

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I love Nancy and AOC.

bottom line, after nearly 250 years, it's clear that white men have f**ked up a perfectly nice thing. Time to let the women run the joint.

true story: I was having this discussion a week or two ago with my wife and a few of our friends. With absolutely no exception, out of every couple we know and spend time with.. when it comes to budgeting, making household decisions, planning of events (trips, get-togethers, etc) - every single aspect of the household/relationship/familial dynamic, I would completely trust the female, over the male, to run the ship.
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Post by Heat Miser on 2019-02-08, 14:29

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Post by Rocinante on 2019-02-08, 16:01

When was that?
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Post by Dr. Strangelove on 2019-02-08, 16:58

Heres her world is going to end soundbite

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Post by kingstonlake on 2019-02-08, 17:04

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She did not say the world will end in 12 years. Rolling Eyes

Also, I just read that document. Have you read it? Because it does not contain the words "eliminate fossil fuels entirely". So no, she didn't say that either. Are you making this shit up yourself or getting it from Faux News?

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Post by kingstonlake on 2019-02-08, 17:06

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Heres her world is going to end soundbite


Thank You. Hadn't found the correct link.
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Post by Dr. Strangelove on 2019-02-08, 17:18

Shes much stupider than I thought and far less entertaining on Twitter since she took office.

I don't really think she's on the GOP payroll but by God she's acting like she is. She's what Stalin called a useful idiot.

I can't believe she got leading Dem Presidential hopefuls to fall all over themselves to endorse that crap they dropped yesterday. It reads like a transcript of a focus group of stoned high school kids The GOP has probably already started making the ads.

If this shit keeps up Nancy will have her primaried
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