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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-03, 12:46

This thread is past due. We can go back if you want, but I think we'll have enough material just going forward. He repeats his ridiculous lies over and over. Now that the media seems to be a little more bold about calling them what they are, let's just keep a list going, shall we?

Yesterday in his bizarre sycophantic cabinet meeting where Pence again praised his "strength" Running list of Trump lies. 1401550746

LIE "30 to 35 million undocumented immigrants"
actually around 11 million
LIE Undocumented immigrants cost the government "250 billion"
Considering the taxes many undocumented workers pay it's more like 3 billion and that's only if you figure in the educations that are being provided to the children of undocumented workers.
LIE "Russia's not happy" about the withdrawal from Syria.
Putin says the US withdrawal was the "correct decision" [whip cracking sound]
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on 2019-01-03, 13:11

We don’t have the bandwidth for this Roc
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Post by tGreenWay on 2019-01-03, 13:17

Yesterday, Donnie claimed he “essentially” fired Mattis. Running list of Trump lies. 1966794946
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-01-03, 13:22

yeah - you're gonna crash the internet, dude.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2019-01-03, 14:00

Jesus, this could be the biggest thread of all time on this board if everything was captured.

Here's an update from last August. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/08/01/president-trump-has-made-4229-false-or-misleading-claims-in-558-days/?utm_term=.e2fc60f6762c
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2019-01-03, 14:26

Yeah but how many did Obama make?
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-03, 14:45

LIE “Just as I promised the American People from this podium 11 months ago, we enacted the biggest tax cuts and reform in American history.”

1981 is calling.
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-03, 14:53

LIE "People see that gasoline is way down. And the reason its way down is because I called up some of the OPEC people."

He just called "some OPEC people" and gas prices went down. 1. Oil is not gas, 2. OPEC voted to decrease volume after the president expressed support for increasing volume. So... yeah.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-01-03, 15:02

Rocinante wrote:LIE "People see that gasoline is way down. And the reason its way down is because I called up some of the OPEC people."

He just called "some OPEC people" and gas prices went down. 1. Oil is not gas, 2. OPEC voted to decrease volume after the president expressed support for increasing volume. So... yeah.
he called "some OPEC people"... Running list of Trump lies. 502811600
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2019-01-03, 15:15

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:We don’t have the bandwidth for this Roc


A year of unprecedented deception: Trump averaged 15 false claims a day in 2018
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-01-03, 15:30

Floyd Robertson wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:We don’t have the bandwidth for this Roc


A year of unprecedented deception: Trump averaged 15 false claims a day in 2018
but he's such a good christian.. Running list of Trump lies. 502811600
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-03, 15:46

I'm not talking about "false claims" or "misleading comments" or "stretching interpretation of the facts"  I'm talking about straight up, willful lying.  I think that the press needs to stop saying "Trump said this and that's misleading".  I think they need to stick to the obvious blatant lies and hammer on them.  Let the "misleading statements" go.  There's enough lying to sustain the mainstream media's obsession with him.  

You guys are obsessed with Trump. Did you used to date him? Because you pretend like you hate him, but I think you love him. I think what no one in this room wants to admit is that Trump has helped all of you. He couldn’t sell steaks or vodka or water or college or ties or Eric, but he has helped you. He’s helped you sell your papers and your books and your TV. You helped create this monster, and now you’re profiting off of him. If you’re going to profit off of Trump, you should at least give him some money, because he doesn’t have any.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2019-01-04, 13:37

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-soviet-union-afghanistan-20190103-story.html

According to the revisionist historical account Trump delivered during a Cabinet meeting Wednesday, “the reason Russia was in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia.” He added: “They were right to be there. The problem is, it was a tough fight.”

The comments marked a surprising split with U.S. conservatives dating back to President Ronald Reagan, who saw the invasion as an attempt to spread communism and aided insurgent forces fighting Soviet troops.

“The most shameless Soviet propagandist never claimed that Afghan terrorists were attacking Russia,” said Barnett Rubin, an Afghanistan expert at New York University. “You can read all Soviet media in the 1980s and never find anything this ridiculous.”
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-04, 15:16

NYTimes wrote:At the same time, in response to a question from a reporter, the president held out the possibility that he could declare a national emergency and assume the unilateral power to build a wall without congressional approval.

“I may do it,” he said, flanked by Mr. Pence, Ms. Nielsen and congressional Republican leaders. “We could call a national emergency and build it very quickly. That’s another way to do it. But if we can do it through a negotiated process, that’s better.”

Narrator: The President could not do that.
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-06, 13:22


"We'll be coming out of Syria, like, very soon. Let the other people take care of it now,"

Not so much. “President Trump’s national security adviser sought to reassure allies Sunday that the United States would be methodical about withdrawing troops from Syria, promising that the pullout would not occur until the Islamic State was fully eradicated from the country and Turkey could guarantee the safety of Kurdish fighters.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast/no-syria-withdrawal-without-commitment-turkey-bolton-says-n955181
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-06, 13:23

I 100% guarantee that we will still be in Syria when Trump is out of office.
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Post by tGreenWay on 2019-01-06, 17:08

Rocinante wrote:I'm not talking about "false claims" or "misleading comments" or "stretching interpretation of the facts"  I'm talking about straight up, willful lying.  I think that the press needs to stop saying "Trump said this and that's misleading".  I think they need to stick to the obvious blatant lies and hammer on them.  Let the "misleading statements" go.  There's enough lying to sustain the mainstream media's obsession with him.  

You guys are obsessed with Trump. Did you used to date him? Because you pretend like you hate him, but I think you love him. I think what no one in this room wants to admit is that Trump has helped all of you. He couldn’t sell steaks or vodka or water or college or ties or Eric, but he has helped you. He’s helped you sell your papers and your books and your TV. You helped create this monster, and now you’re profiting off of him. If you’re going to profit off of Trump, you should at least give him some money, because he doesn’t have any.

Those folks who support Donnie aren’t watching stations or reading stories or columns in which Trump’s claims are called out for the lies they are. And if they come across actual facts, they quickly dismiss and side with Trump.
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Post by tGreenWay on 2019-01-06, 17:24

Rocinante wrote:LIE "People see that gasoline is way down. And the reason its way down is because I called up some of the OPEC people."

He just called "some OPEC people" and gas prices went down. 1. Oil is not gas, 2. OPEC voted to decrease volume after the president expressed support for increasing volume. So... yeah.

I haven’t looked at the numbers, and I def could be wrong, but I’d like to look at Saudi oil output and line it up against the timeline in the Kashoggi murder, particularly once intel pointed squarely at MBS, even more so when American politicians were calling for sanctions.
“Oh, look at how cheap gas is now. What were we talking about? Squirrel!”
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-07, 18:07

LIE

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"Sensitive" because it's somewhere between zero and 6. Not 4,0000

The "crisis" at the southern border is a lie. Except the humanitarian crisis created by this administration's criminal policies and lies.


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Post by kingstonlake on 2019-01-07, 23:30

You can add every living president refuting Peckerwoods claim that they've privately expressed support for a wall.

Every
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2019-01-08, 10:36

Will someone please bump this at 9:00pm tonight?
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-08, 10:46

LIE

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Disgusting Homophobe Mike Pence wrote:Well, you, you, you... I I know the president has said that that was his impression, uh, from previous administrations, previous presidents. I know, I know I’ve seen clips of previous presidents talking about the importance of border security, the importance of addressing the issue of illegal immigration.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-01-08, 10:50

dude - I respect the heck out of you for what you're trying to do.

if I could give you a tip: it might be easier if you took a manuscript of everything the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator says/tweets/grunts and highlight the truths.. thereby leaving the lies to identify themselves.

again - just my two cents. Keep doing god's work.

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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-08, 11:25

Networks will carry Democrat's response

They should have one of the new young guns do it. Or Kamala Harris. I love her.
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-08, 11:26

But it will probably be Pelosi or George Zimmer, I mean Chuck Schumer.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-01-08, 11:27

they could roll a tree stump out there and it would be more convincing than the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator.
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-08, 13:14

Oops. I didn’t mean to put that in this thread. IVE ABANDONED MY PRINCIPLES!!
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2019-01-08, 19:14

Watching Pence interviewed by Jonathan Karl and trying to give cover to Trump's lies is sad.
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-09, 11:13

LIE

“The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”

TRUTH

“I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,”
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2019-01-09, 11:15

Rocinante wrote:LIE

“The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”

LIE

“I will take the mantle.

TRUTH

I will be the one to shut it down.

LIE

I’m not going to blame you for it,”

Fixed.
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-09, 11:18

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“The wall will also be paid for, indirectly by the great new trade deal we have made with Mexico.”

The evolving definition of what "pay for it" means is the very definition of Orwellian Newspeak. Trump campaigned on Mexico paying for the wall. It was a central and defining part of his campaign. Asking congress to authorize 5.5 billion for the wall is not "Mexico paying for it" no matter how you parse it.
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-09, 11:20

LIE

“The border wall would very quickly pay for itself.”

WAT. I DON'T EVEN. Is Mexico going to pay for it, or is it going to pay for itself?

Actually that's rhetorical. the answer is NEITHER.
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-09, 11:40

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There is a growing humanitarian and security crisis at our southern border

TRUTH - The president's own policies have extremely exacerbated the humanitarian crisis by denying entry to asylum seekers, taking children from immigrants, jamming people together in unsanitary and unsafe conditions during a bad flu season without proper care, and refusing to properly staff up the immigrant processing system.

There is no security crisis - his cherry picking of the worst few instances does not change the fact that immigrants are less likely than citizens to commit crimes. Immigration from the south is very low in context of the past decade.
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Post by Rocinante on 2019-01-09, 11:44

Rocinante wrote:LIE

“The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”

TRUTH  

“I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,”

Also, Democrats have funded border security (still unspent) and have offered another 1.8 billion.  They just don't want "the wall".

Also, he had a two year republican led government... why didn't he get his funding then?
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2019-01-11, 12:24

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Post by kingstonlake on 2019-01-11, 12:31


I think now the plan is to divert funds from victims of hurricanes and fires. So basically homeless people from North Carolina, South Carolina, Puerto Rico, and California are gonna pay for it.
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2019-03-08, 19:47

Is this the appropriate place to comment on the irony of Trump calling Cohen a liar?
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2019-04-29, 07:17

[tw]1122810308488237056[/tw]

Quite an accomplishment Running list of Trump lies. 502811600
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2019-04-29, 07:45

Floyd Robertson wrote:[tw]1122810308488237056[/tw]

Quite an accomplishment Running list of Trump lies. 502811600
the best part is how the mainstream media refuses to call them "lies". Running list of Trump lies. 502811600
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2019-04-29, 07:59

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:[tw]1122810308488237056[/tw]

Quite an accomplishment Running list of Trump lies. 502811600
the best part is how the mainstream media refuses to call them "lies". Running list of Trump lies. 502811600

I kind of look at that as endemic of the politically correct society we now inhabit.
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