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Post by DWags on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 11:53

Waiting for a tire to get fixed. Reading stuff on this kid. He made the cover of SI. Is supposed to be the next phenomenon. The guy from SI thinks he’ll do a year at MSU before the NBA.

“Now, it's early, and I could be wrong. I certainly don't think anything has been decided,” Rosenberg told the Free Press. “But here is why I believe that: Emoni loves competition, and this path would provide better competition than staying four years at Lincoln or working out on Nike's dime for a year. He also knows how good he is. He has already kept USA Basketball at arm's length. His knees won't buckle if Mike Krzyzewski walks into his living room. The Bates family likes control, they want great coaching that will challenge Emoni, and you really have to work to earn their trust.

“All of those factors favor Michigan State. The campus is an hour away. MSU players are extremely close, and Tom Izzo has a reputation for pushing guys but still caring about them. MSU coaches have recruited him harder and better than anybody so far. Emoni keeps score. I think that will matter to him. But again, it's early.”

https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/Article/Emoni-Bates-Michigan-State-Sports-Illustrated-cover-story-137947815/?fbclid=IwAR1p7zb1DPIpe9MSlqSTHH-V4S3oap_jXYj6wqomVpHZcyiyN-Q-cLnnTkQ
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Post by MiamiSpartan on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 12:51

So Duke or UK it is.

I love Izzo and wouldn't have it any other way than how he does it, but a freshman one and done still needs to bust their hump on defense and the boards for Izzo, and he will sit your ass if you don't. This kid will almost certainly sit a hell of a lot more on the bench than he would at these other schools that have become one and done specialists. The parents can say that they want him challenged by a coach that won't just hand him playing time automatically, but yeah, we'll see how that goes when the other schools really put on the press for him.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 13:07

I got an E-Boni for Emoni and it’s this emoji Emoni Bates:  let me be the first to jinx us.  1f346
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Post by tGreenWay on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 13:38

MiamiSpartan wrote:So Duke or UK it is.

I love Izzo and wouldn't have it any other way than how he does it, but a freshman one and done still needs to bust their hump on defense and the boards for Izzo, and he will sit your ass if you don't. This kid will almost certainly sit a hell of a lot more on the bench than he would at these other schools that have become one and done specialists. The parents can say that they want him challenged by a coach that won't just hand him playing time automatically, but yeah, we'll see how that goes when the other schools really put on the press for him.



And you can believe if the kid is sitting the bench, it won’t be hard to tell he and his dad are unhappy.
Then again, I don’t know squat about the kid’s play on defense, so maybe he won’t be sitting at all. Emoni Bates:  let me be the first to jinx us.  2599972566
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Post by Senior Dickfist on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 13:39

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I got an E-Boni for Emoni and it’s this emoji Emoni Bates:  let me be the first to jinx us.  1f346

Umm...Travis, that's a 15 yard penalty for horny posting.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 15:06

Senior Dickfist wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I got an E-Boni for Emoni and it’s this emoji Emoni Bates:  let me be the first to jinx us.  1f346

Umm...Travis, that's a 15 yard penalty for horny posting.

It’s just a thing amongst us recruiting insiderz that not everyone gets
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Post by kingstonlake on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 15:09

DWags wrote:Waiting for a tire to get fixed. Reading stuff on this kid. He made the cover of SI. Is supposed to be the next phenomenon. The guy from SI thinks he’ll do a year at MSU before the NBA.

“Now, it's early, and I could be wrong. I certainly don't think anything has been decided,” Rosenberg told the Free Press. “But here is why I believe that: Emoni loves competition, and this path would provide better competition than staying four years at Lincoln or working out on Nike's dime for a year. He also knows how good he is. He has already kept USA Basketball at arm's length. His knees won't buckle if Mike Krzyzewski walks into his living room. The Bates family likes control, they want great coaching that will challenge Emoni, and you really have to work to earn their trust.

“All of those factors favor Michigan State. The campus is an hour away. MSU players are extremely close, and Tom Izzo has a reputation for pushing guys but still caring about them. MSU coaches have recruited him harder and better than anybody so far. Emoni keeps score. I think that will matter to him. But again, it's early.”

https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/Article/Emoni-Bates-Michigan-State-Sports-Illustrated-cover-story-137947815/?fbclid=IwAR1p7zb1DPIpe9MSlqSTHH-V4S3oap_jXYj6wqomVpHZcyiyN-Q-cLnnTkQ

He’ll never play for Izzo if this is true.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 15:28

MiamiSpartan wrote:So Duke or UK it is.

I love Izzo and wouldn't have it any other way than how he does it, but a freshman one and done still needs to bust their hump on defense and the boards for Izzo, and he will sit your ass if you don't. This kid will almost certainly sit a hell of a lot more on the bench than he would at these other schools that have become one and done specialists. The parents can say that they want him challenged by a coach that won't just hand him playing time automatically, but yeah, we'll see how that goes when the other schools really put on the press for him.

You mean ride the pine... just like Miles (32 min/game) and JJJ (22 min/game) did?
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 15:48

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:So Duke or UK it is.

I love Izzo and wouldn't have it any other way than how he does it, but a freshman one and done still needs to bust their hump on defense and the boards for Izzo, and he will sit your ass if you don't. This kid will almost certainly sit a hell of a lot more on the bench than he would at these other schools that have become one and done specialists. The parents can say that they want him challenged by a coach that won't just hand him playing time automatically, but yeah, we'll see how that goes when the other schools really put on the press for him.

You mean ride the pine... just like Miles (32 min/game) and JJJ (22 min/game) did?

I don’t buy into that narrative Miami is pushing either, it’s just MSU fans jerking off to izzo being “tough” or “blue collar” or whatever cliche you want to use. Deyonta Davis could fit into the narrative though, maybe?
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Post by steveschneider on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 15:57

I love one and dones. Hoping we land this kid.
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Post by steveschneider on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 15:58

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:

You mean ride the pine... just like Miles (32 min/game) and JJJ (22 min/game) did?

I don’t buy into that narrative Miami is pushing either, it’s just MSU fans jerking off to izzo being “tough” or “blue collar” or whatever cliche you want to use. Deyonta Davis could fit into the narrative though, maybe?

Remember when we played Ben Carter over Jaren Jackson Jr.? I forget the reason why, was it because Ben Carter was tougher or more blue collar?
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 16:02

steveschneider wrote:
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I don’t buy into that narrative Miami is pushing either, it’s just MSU fans jerking off to izzo being “tough” or “blue collar” or whatever cliche you want to use. Deyonta Davis could fit into the narrative though, maybe?

Remember when we played Ben Carter over Jaren Jackson Jr.? I forget the reason why, was it because Ben Carter was tougher or more blue collar?

As a surprising it is to some, izzo can make mistakes. MSU was not winning that game either way though. Brick city.
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Post by tGreenWay on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 16:22

We need Kithier to get so good he deserves a nickname, and tSwill will call him Ivory. Emoni & Ivory.
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Post by Cameron on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 16:24

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Remember when we played Ben Carter over Jaren Jackson Jr.? I forget the reason why, was it because Ben Carter was tougher or more blue collar?

As a surprising it is to some, izzo can make mistakes. MSU was not winning that game either way though. Brick city.

Know who's a good shooter? Jaren Jackson Jr.
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Post by GRR Spartan on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 16:40

I wouldn’t bet the farm the NBA’s One and Done rule will exist for Bate’s when he graduates in 2022.
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Post by MiamiSpartan on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 17:00

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:So Duke or UK it is.

I love Izzo and wouldn't have it any other way than how he does it, but a freshman one and done still needs to bust their hump on defense and the boards for Izzo, and he will sit your ass if you don't. This kid will almost certainly sit a hell of a lot more on the bench than he would at these other schools that have become one and done specialists. The parents can say that they want him challenged by a coach that won't just hand him playing time automatically, but yeah, we'll see how that goes when the other schools really put on the press for him.

You mean ride the pine... just like Miles (32 min/game) and JJJ (22 min/game) did?
Oh yeah, the next Jordan/Kobe/Lebron is going to be content with 22 min/game his one year in college. So, cool, Izzo can point to Miles as getting major minutes as a freshman. And then Cal or K go into the kid's living room and roll out a list longer than a CVS receipt of freshman with 30 min/game under them.
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Post by NigelUno on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 17:04

Cameron wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

As a surprising it is to some, izzo can make mistakes. MSU was not winning that game either way though. Brick city.

Know who's a good shooter? Jaren Jackson Jr.

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Post by Cameron on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 17:13

NigelUno wrote:
Cameron wrote:

Know who's a good shooter? Jaren Jackson Jr.

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I had started to make a post with shooting percentages and actual evidence, then I remembered that it is a waste of time to debate anything with you, and this is more or less a settled matter regardless. I don't even think you would argue or are arguing that playing Ben Carter 8 more minutes than JJJ was the right move, but if you actually think that, nothing is going to change your mind anyhow.
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Post by SawGreen on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 17:15

Since the recent scandals about the pay-to-play, I think MSU is on the upswing. Honestly, for a sure thing, it's about a 3-4 month commitment without the donation. I think MSU is in the seat to land a few of those kids we never did. Day-Day, Forbes, Bridges, Harris, Jackson and Valentine are not hurting the cause.
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Post by NigelUno on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 17:26

Cameron wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

0-4


I had started to make a post with shooting percentages and actual evidence, then I remembered that it is a waste of time to debate anything with you, and this is more or less a settled matter regardless. I don't even think you would argue or are arguing that playing Ben Carter 8 more minutes than JJJ was the right move, but if you actually think that, nothing is going to change your mind anyhow.

0-4 is actual evidence.

As is 1-7, 1-12, 4-18, and 4-12.
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Post by tGreenWay on Mon 4 Nov 2019 - 17:39

I’m so happy we’re re-litigating the the J3/Carter argument again. I fully expect minds to be changed this time. Rolling Eyes
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Post by NigelUno on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 15:29

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Post by steveschneider on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 15:31

How fired up should I be about this kid? I don't follow recruiting at all and have no clue who this is.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 15:33

You shouldn't be fired up about him because when all is said and done I'm betting he won't end up here. NBA, or the Dad will catch a case of Duke or something. From what I know right now the Dad isn't like that and is doing everything right and they have great relationships with TI and the team but we all know better.
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Post by steveschneider on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 15:35

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:You shouldn't be fired up about him because when all is said and done I'm betting he won't end up here. NBA, or the Dad will catch a case of Duke or something. From what I know right now the Dad isn't like that and is doing everything right and they have great relationships with TI and the team but we all know better.

Thanks, I'm going to keep my cool on this one. Nigel if your crystal balls start tingling bump this thread.
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Post by NigelUno on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 15:38

steveschneider wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:You shouldn't be fired up about him because when all is said and done I'm betting he won't end up here. NBA, or the Dad will catch a case of Duke or something. From what I know right now the Dad isn't like that and is doing everything right and they have great relationships with TI and the team but we all know better.

Thanks, I'm going to keep my cool on this one. Nigel if your crystal balls start tingling bump this thread.

Conventional thinking has been it's MSU (if he reclassifies) or the NBA (if he doesn't). That could change if he moves out of state to play at a prep school (just speculation on my part). He comes to a lot of MSU games.
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Post by tGreenWay on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 15:42

It would be nice if it happens. Based on what I’ve read about his ability to go pro now if he could, not getting my hopes up. Seeing him play for a year in EL would be fun, though.
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Post by Nordic on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 15:50

NigelUno wrote:[tw]1240353632995901440[/tw]

That phrase seems to be our kiss of death
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Post by AvgMSUJoe on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 15:52

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Post by AvgMSUJoe on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 15:53

Nordic wrote:
That phrase seems to be our kiss of death

Yeah, I remember reading a story about LeBron "liking" MSU if he ever played college.
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Post by DWags on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 16:07

In the chaos of the world, this would seem to be nice. But, whatevs.
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Post by duffy munn on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 16:22

I long for the days when a real melt down was about where a high school super star basketball player chose to go to college.
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Post by kingstonlake on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 16:27

Bad fit. How in the hell does Izzo plan to have Bates, Carey, and Stewart on the floor at the same time?
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Post by NigelUno on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 16:31

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
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That phrase seems to be our kiss of death

Yeah, I remember reading a story about LeBron "liking" MSU if he ever played college.

LeBron James drops not-so-subtle hint he would've gone to Ohio State for college
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Post by aualum06 on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 16:47

NigelUno wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:

Yeah, I remember reading a story about LeBron "liking" MSU if he ever played college.

LeBron James drops not-so-subtle hint he would've gone to Ohio State for college

LeBron would have went to Akron
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Post by NigelUno on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 17:06

aualum06 wrote:

LeBron would have went to Akron

Doubtful. OSU had a much higher salary cap.
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Post by aualum06 on Wed 18 Mar 2020 - 17:27

NigelUno wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

LeBron would have went to Akron

Doubtful. OSU had a much higher salary cap.

Nah he could have played with his buddies there. What would he have needed money for
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Post by NigelUno on Mon 29 Jun 2020 - 13:16

Apparently he's announcing his college choice on ESPN in the next 45 minutes.

Or maybe he's going to a prep school. Not sure why that would need a press conference.

Maybe he thinks there won't be a Michigan HS basketball season.


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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Mon 29 Jun 2020 - 13:20

Remember back when we didn't have to worry about COVID? Good times.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe on Mon 29 Jun 2020 - 13:33

Prolly forgo 4 years of the NBA to play for Duke or some shit.
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