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Post by duffy munn on 2020-04-15, 23:36

Audrey Dalton at channel 6 in Lansing reporting MSU's Brain Allen has tested positive. First NFL player to be infected.
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Post by CORNER BLITZ on 2020-04-16, 00:10

duffy munn wrote:Audrey Dalton at channel 6 in Lansing reporting MSU's Brain Allen has tested positive. First NFL player to be infected.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-rams-center-brian-allen-first-nfl-player-to-test-positive-for-coronavirus/ar-BB12H6vL
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Post by The Pantry on 2020-04-16, 00:22

Dendrobates wrote:I know the data is slow to come in, but it’s interesting how long it takes for people to recover from this. My brother’s fiancé went back to work today. She still can’t taste anything, and has half her smell back.
The recovery number is disturbing. Glad to learn she's somewhat healthy again. Is she scheduled for retesting?

Hope your brother is hanging in.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2020-04-16, 08:16

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I know the data is slow to come in, but it’s interesting how long it takes for people to recover from this. My brother’s fiancé went back to work today. She still can’t taste anything, and has half her smell back.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/sean-mcvay-confirms-rams-brian-allen-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-says-hes-on-the-road-to-recovery/

Brian Allen tested positive. Doctors say he'll regain his sense of taste and smell in 6-8 months. Shocked
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Post by CORNER BLITZ on 2020-04-16, 09:49

Don't know how they know something like that from something that hasn't been around for 6-8 months?
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Post by Dendrobates on 2020-04-16, 12:44

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Dendrobates wrote:I know the data is slow to come in, but it’s interesting how long it takes for people to recover from this. My brother’s fiancé went back to work today. She still can’t taste anything, and has half her smell back.
The recovery number is disturbing. Glad to learn she's somewhat healthy again. Is she scheduled for retesting?

Hope your brother is hanging in.

You know, I'm not sure if they've retested her. I will ask.

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Still mostly stable. Again some ups and downs. Inflammation markers are down. But they've had to sedate him more and increase his oxygen. no change in chest xrays. When he starts coughing, his vitals drop like crazy. Which is why they're keeping/upping sedation. And his fever spiked back up to 104 for a bit.

It's so damn frustrating. We keep thinking, isnt there anything they can do? All it is, is a waiting game hoping his body fights it off. It also worries us with the length of his ventilation. How much permanent damage it will cause? Will there be any cognitive issues ? Of course that's assuming he even survives.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2020-04-16, 13:11

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The Pantry wrote:The recovery number is disturbing. Glad to learn she's somewhat healthy again. Is she scheduled for retesting?

Hope your brother is hanging in.

You know, I'm not sure if they've retested her. I will ask.

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Still mostly stable. Again some ups and downs. Inflammation markers are down. But they've had to sedate him more and increase his oxygen. no change in chest xrays. When he starts coughing, his vitals drop like crazy. Which is why they're keeping/upping sedation. And his fever spiked back up to 104 for a bit.

It's so damn frustrating. We keep thinking, isnt there anything they can do? All it is, is a waiting game hoping his body fights it off. It also worries us with the length of his ventilation. How much permanent damage it will cause? Will there be any cognitive issues ? Of course that's assuming he even survives.

This has to be so frustrating. Keep hanging in there. We're all pulling for your brother.
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 2020-04-16, 13:12

I can't imagine the waiting. Any type of thing where there are several days of just waiting, nothing can be done, etc., is going to be frustrating, but add in the fact that no one can be there with him, and I can't imagine how that must add to it. It seems like it must add a separate level of waiting because you guys have to wait for updates from the hospital, rather than being there as things happen.
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Post by Rocinante on 2020-04-16, 13:19

I was listening to a report from Brooklyn and a dr. was talking about how many young patients in critical condition there are. He was the head of the response at that hospital and he was just dumbfounded by how what he was seeing wasn’t what he had expected based on the information that was given at the beginning. He also had a meeting with his staff and they were talking about how the covid cocktails that have been lauded as a panacea by certain people... were not showing any appreciable effects. Every day that your brother fights it is a good day Dendro. And brings him one step closer to kicking it. I would be a wreck. Stay healthy. Mentally and physically.
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Post by Dendrobates on 2020-04-16, 13:36

Several articles have posted this. Saying 90% of US deaths could have been avoided if we started social distancing on March 2.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/starting-isolation-two-weeks-sooner-could-have-saved-9-out-of-10-us-coronavirus-deaths/amp
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Post by Dendrobates on 2020-04-16, 13:39

Rocinante wrote:I was listening to a report from Brooklyn and a dr. was talking about how many young patients in critical condition there are. He was the head of the response at that hospital and he was just dumbfounded by how what he was seeing wasn’t what he had expected based on the information that was given at the beginning. He also had a meeting with his staff and they were talking about how the covid cocktails that have been lauded as a panacea by certain people... were not showing any appreciable effects. Every day that your brother fights it is a good day Dendro. And brings him one step closer to kicking it. I would be a wreck. Stay healthy. Mentally and physically.

It is crazy the number of young patients critically ill. Especially someone like my brother with 0 health issues.

Another side note: my cousin (well, husbands cousin) is a NP and she has it now. She’s so pissed because she said she did everything to prevent it. It’s also sucks because she’s in OB and labor and delivery. Also has 4 young kids at home.
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 2020-04-16, 14:17

lol as flawed as face id, this is a problem.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 2020-04-16, 14:41

Dendrobates wrote:Several articles have posted this. Saying 90% of US deaths could have been avoided if we started social distancing on March 2.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/starting-isolation-two-weeks-sooner-could-have-saved-9-out-of-10-us-coronavirus-deaths/amp
wow.

Leadership matters.


Thank goodness for state/local leaders.

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Post by Turtleneck on 2020-04-16, 14:50

Looks like we will pass 34k deaths today. There were 9 deaths on 3/1 and 4,873 on 4/1. Maybe we should have taken this more seriously much sooner than we did. Now we're going to have to put in on the line so Jordyn can get a new gaming system from Best Buy and Chad can grab some new polos at TJ Maxx.
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Post by Turtleneck on 2020-04-16, 15:02

Maybe the kids should go back to school. Only 2-3% will die.

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Post by CORNER BLITZ on 2020-04-16, 15:06

Pretty sure that's all people not 2-3% of kids

Also opening school would be dumb IMO because there's a few weeks left when quarantine *potentially* ends so what's the point even
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Post by Turtleneck on 2020-04-16, 15:12

All people impacted by the opening of schools. His comment was framed specifically within the context of schools, so while maybe not just kids, it is also not just the general population either.
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Post by Jake from State Farm on 2020-04-16, 15:16


I think some of the people I've seen commenting on facebook are really way too dumb to take notice of this, let alone let it affect the way they think about this virus. To them it's nothing but a hoax and the people dying of covid19 had one foot in the grave already and would have died whether or not they got it.
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Post by CORNER BLITZ on 2020-04-16, 15:18

Jake from State Farm wrote:

I think some of the people I've seen commenting on facebook are really way too dumb to take notice of this, let alone let it affect the way they think about this virus. To them it's nothing but a hoax and the people dying of covid19 had one foot in the grave already and would have died whether or not they got it.

Technically that last part is 100% true

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Post by CORNER BLITZ on 2020-04-16, 15:24

Turtleneck wrote:All people impacted by the opening of schools. His comment was framed specifically within the context of schools, so while maybe not just kids, it is also not just the general population either.

Yeah and apparently that's on the low side of options from that lancet paper


However, there are no data on the relative contribution of school closures to transmission control. Data from the SARS outbreak in mainland China, Hong Kong, and Singapore suggest that school closures did not contribute to the control of the epidemic. Modelling studies of SARS produced conflicting results. Recent modelling studies of COVID-19 predict that school closures alone would prevent only 2–4% of deaths, much less than other social distancing interventions

At some point people will have to venture out and it has to start somewhere. Killing 2-3% of kids is not what Dr Oz was talking about though. Again I'm of the opinion that it's dumb to bring back a tiny amount of school at this point, but I don't have kids/rely on school for care and or food so that's easy for me to say
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2020-04-16, 18:26

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Post by Dendrobates on 2020-04-16, 18:45


Before when I read about it, they weren’t giving it to vented pts. This said vented pts came off shortly after treatment . Pretty amazing if it’s legit. I sent the link to my mom and future SIL
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Post by CORNER BLITZ on 2020-04-16, 18:59


1) some good news
B) I cannot read and initially thought that was a huge story coming from the state news
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Post by Turtleneck on 2020-04-16, 20:06

Yeah, but the name of the company is Gilead.....
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on 2020-04-16, 20:11

Under his eye.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2020-04-16, 20:14

Dendrobates wrote:

Before when I read about it, they weren’t giving it to vented pts. This said vented pts came off shortly after treatment . Pretty amazing if it’s legit. I sent the link to my mom and future SIL

My understanding is that there are clinical trials going on in MI but they are at UM Hospital and I think maybe one in GR.
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Post by InTenSity on 2020-04-16, 20:34

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Under his eye.
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 2020-04-16, 20:58

Turtleneck wrote:Yeah, but the name of the company is Gilead.....


And this is how their takeover begins.
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Post by Dendrobates on 2020-04-16, 21:04

I almost worked for Gilead. I had a couple interviews with them a little over a year ago. I know several good people who work for them.
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Post by tGreenWay on 2020-04-16, 21:16

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Under his eye.

Praise be.
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Post by duffy munn on 2020-04-16, 21:49

My Dad refused inpatient rehab and signed himself out of the hospital. Also signed a DNR order. I'm glad he is home.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 2020-04-16, 21:57

Good to hear Duffy. Hope he heals up fast.
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Post by DWags on 2020-04-16, 22:01

duffy munn wrote:My Dad refused inpatient rehab and signed himself out of the hospital. Also signed a DNR order. I'm glad he is home.

Stubborn ol prick, Isn’t he? Good to hear. Best to you guys.
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Post by Dendrobates on 2020-04-16, 22:10

I'm glad he's out of there Duffy! He's a stubborn old man, I like it.

Will he be doing outpatient rehab then?
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Post by duffy munn on 2020-04-16, 22:10

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duffy munn wrote:My Dad refused inpatient rehab and signed himself out of the hospital. Also signed a DNR order. I'm glad he is home.

Stubborn ol prick, Isn’t he? Good to hear. Best to you guys.
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duffy munn wrote:My Dad refused inpatient rehab and signed himself out of the hospital. Also signed a DNR order. I'm glad he is home.

Stubborn ol prick, Isn’t he? Good to hear. Best to you guys.

Lol. Yes he is. Looking back to a couple of months ago when we thought he was near the end I think he may of had the virus. He didn't want to eat and kept saying everything tastes like saw dust. Clearly he is still near the end but how ironic would it be if he beat covid 19 first.
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Post by duffy munn on 2020-04-16, 22:15

Dendrobates wrote:I'm glad he's out of there Duffy! He's a stubborn old man, I like it.

Will he be doing outpatient rehab then?

We are going to bring outpatient PT and I'm going tomorrow to do my part with his home care. My local brother and sister have been doing the bulk and it's my over due turn. We now have a real schedule because nobody is really worried about giving him the virus anymore.
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Post by The Pantry on 2020-04-16, 23:43

I wish the best for your dad, duffy.
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Post by duffy munn on 2020-04-16, 23:46

The Pantry wrote:I wish the best for your dad, duffy.

Thank you
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Post by tGreenWay on 2020-04-16, 23:48

Very happy to learn this, Duffy. Don’t mess with stubborn old coots.
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