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Post by DWags 2020-06-04, 14:45

Words matter.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2020-06-04, 14:49

So do actions. Like actually doing them, not just saying you did them.

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Post by Rocinante 2020-06-04, 14:55

I don’t get what’s wrong with what he wrote.
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Post by aualum06 2020-06-04, 16:06

Rocinante wrote:I don’t get what’s wrong with what he wrote.

Who?
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Post by The Pantry 2020-06-04, 16:14

Rocinante wrote:I don’t get what’s wrong with what he wrote.
I don't either. Why can't he protest something he disagrees with?
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Post by The Pantry 2020-06-04, 16:27

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Rocinante wrote:I don’t get what’s wrong with what he wrote.  

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Drew Brees wrote a lengthy apology posted on Instagram Thursday morning after telling Yahoo “I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America or our country” when asked about NFL players kneeling during the national anthem.
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Post by Turtleneck 2020-06-04, 16:31

Black athletes are valued for their bodies and athletic skills. We expect them to stick to sports. You know, “shut up and dribble.” White athletes, well, we care about their minds, too. We value what they have to say. Example below.

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It’s a fucked up country, and sports does a pretty damn good job of showing us just how we value some more than we value others.
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Post by aualum06 2020-06-04, 16:32

The Pantry wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

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Drew Brees wrote a lengthy apology posted on Instagram Thursday morning after telling Yahoo “I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America or our country” when asked about NFL players kneeling during the national anthem.

Brees comment was just plain dumb to make at this time.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2020-06-04, 16:34

Fromm said he supports guns but only if they're really expensive so only elite white people can afford them. Said it in a text message that was revealed today.
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Post by Turtleneck 2020-06-04, 16:50

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Post by DWags 2020-06-04, 17:17

all I'm saying is, before you hit "Send", read it a few times and ask yourself if it's worth it at that point, or ever. Just think about it from all angles. I know one thing, I've thought a text was funner as I was writing it than when I hit send. Funny doesn't always come off in print. As far as Brees, he certainly has the right to say what he said. Not arguing that at all. I wonder if it was worth it to hi now? We can get into a philosophical discussion about what the flag means or whatever, that's not my point. Understand that your words matter. If you have faith in them, then you shouldn't have to apologize for them. If you apologize for them, you maybe don't understand: Words matter. I bet they do now.
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Post by aualum06 2020-06-04, 17:22

DWags wrote:all I'm saying is, before you hit "Send", read it a few times and ask yourself if it's worth it at that point, or ever. Just think about it from all angles. I know one thing, I've thought a text was funner as I was writing it than when I hit send. Funny doesn't always come off in print. As far as Brees, he certainly has the right to say what he said. Not arguing that at all. I wonder if it was worth it to hi now? We can get into a philosophical discussion about what the flag means or whatever, that's not my point. Understand that your words matter. If you have faith in them, then you shouldn't have to apologize for them. If you apologize for them, you maybe don't understand: Words matter. I bet they do now.

I mean I know texts aren't private but you kind of take some assumption that they are. Seems shitty to have them released. Yes I know texts aren't really private.
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Post by The Pantry 2020-06-04, 17:28

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Brees comment was just plain dumb to make at this time.
Agree his timing wasn't good but there was nothing wrong with what he said.  He was asked a question...


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Post by Cameron 2020-06-04, 17:50

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Brees comment was just plain dumb to make at this time.
Agree his timing wasn't good but there was nothing wrong with what he said.  He was asked a question...

Nothing wrong with it other than the fact that the kneeling was never about disrespecting the flag or the troops, as Brees was surely aware.

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Post by tGreenWay 2020-06-04, 18:03

Rocinante wrote:I don’t get what’s wrong with what he wrote.


You’re referring to Norvell, right? He got in trouble with some players on his team because he posted something that implied he’d had a talk with every player on the team about what’s happening right now. One of the team captains called him out and said that was bs and all the players got was the same text to all of them, that the coach was making it sound more than what it was. Some players did in fact reach out to the coach, but Norvell didn’t talk to each player. He apologized for wording it that way and gave praise to the player who called him on it.
The text itself seemed good to me, except the coach admits he’s texting and driving. Jake Fromm Drew Brees.    1494614055
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2020-06-04, 19:41

Turtleneck wrote:Black athletes are valued for their bodies and athletic skills. We expect them to stick to sports. You know, “shut up and dribble.” White athletes, well, we care about their minds, too. We value what they have to say. Example below.

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racists are gonna be racist....

I bet she goes to church.

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Post by The Pantry 2020-06-04, 19:56

Jake Fromm Drew Brees.    502811600 And, here I thought Bob liked strong women.... Jake Fromm Drew Brees.    1966794946
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Post by Turtleneck 2020-06-04, 20:57

The Pantry wrote:Jake Fromm Drew Brees.    502811600 And, here I thought Bob liked strong women.....Jake Fromm Drew Brees.    1966794946

Racist means strong woman? Ok.
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Post by Rocinante 2020-06-04, 21:51

tGreenWay wrote:
Rocinante wrote:I don’t get what’s wrong with what he wrote.


You’re referring to Norvell, right? He got in trouble with some players on his team because he posted something that implied he’d had a talk with every player on the team about what’s happening right now. One of the team captains called him out and said that was bs and all the players got was the same text to all of them, that the coach was making it sound more than what it was. Some players did in fact reach out to the coach, but Norvell didn’t talk to each player. He apologized for wording it that way and gave praise to the player who called him on it.
The text itself seemed good to me, except the coach admits he’s texting and driving. Jake Fromm Drew Brees.    1494614055

Yeah that’s what I was taking about. Clearly I don’t agree with Pantry.

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Post by Turtleneck 2020-06-04, 22:28

Rocinante wrote:
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You’re referring to Norvell, right? He got in trouble with some players on his team because he posted something that implied he’d had a talk with every player on the team about what’s happening right now. One of the team captains called him out and said that was bs and all the players got was the same text to all of them, that the coach was making it sound more than what it was. Some players did in fact reach out to the coach, but Norvell didn’t talk to each player. He apologized for wording it that way and gave praise to the player who called him on it.
The text itself seemed good to me, except the coach admits he’s texting and driving. Jake Fromm Drew Brees.    1494614055

Yeah that’s what I was taking about. Clearly I don’t agree with Pantry.

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Post by The Pantry 2020-06-04, 22:57

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Racist means strong woman? Ok.
Twist away, doofus.
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Post by Nordic 2020-06-04, 23:03

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Agree his timing wasn't good but there was nothing wrong with what he said.  He was asked a question...

Nothing wrong with it other than the fact that the kneeling was never about disrespecting the flag or the troops, as Brees was surely aware.



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Post by Turtleneck 2020-06-05, 07:48

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Racist means strong woman? Ok.
Twist away, doofus.

Do you have a list of replies you cut and paste from?
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Post by The Pantry 2020-06-05, 07:59

No. It's just you and your crew do a helluva lot of twisting.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2020-06-05, 08:31

so I read that Brees apologized for his insensitivity, how he 'completely missed the mark' on racial issues we're facing as a country.

on one hand, good for him. I appreciate his self-reflection, etc. On the other hand, he's gotta be at least of average intelligence. How can someone, especially someone surrounded by African American teammates his entire life, be so disconnected and tone deaf?

which makes me wonder, is he really remorseful for the words he initially spoke or is this now damage control for his reputation?

I don't know.. dude certain has the right to say and think whatever he says and thinks. I'm just left to wonder what the real Drew Brees thinks.
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Post by duffy munn 2020-06-05, 09:03

The Pantry wrote:
Rocinante wrote:I don’t get what’s wrong with what he wrote.
I don't either. Why can't he protest something he disagrees with?

He can certainly protest. It's just really clear he doesn't understand what Kaepernick was protesting. I doubt you do either.

Hint: it wasn't the flag or the military
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Post by duffy munn 2020-06-05, 09:04

Robert J Sakimano wrote:so I read that Brees apologized for his insensitivity, how he 'completely missed the mark' on racial issues we're facing as a country.

on one hand, good for him. I appreciate his self-reflection, etc. On the other hand, he's gotta be at least of average intelligence. How can someone, especially someone surrounded by African American teammates his entire life, be so disconnected and tone deaf?

which makes me wonder, is he really remorseful for the words he initially spoke or is this now damage control for his reputation?

I don't know.. dude certain has the right to say and think whatever he says and thinks. I'm just left to wonder what the real Drew Brees thinks.

100% damage control. It's obvious what Brees thinks.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2020-06-05, 09:08

duffy munn wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:so I read that Brees apologized for his insensitivity, how he 'completely missed the mark' on racial issues we're facing as a country.

on one hand, good for him. I appreciate his self-reflection, etc. On the other hand, he's gotta be at least of average intelligence. How can someone, especially someone surrounded by African American teammates his entire life, be so disconnected and tone deaf?

which makes me wonder, is he really remorseful for the words he initially spoke or is this now damage control for his reputation?

I don't know.. dude certain has the right to say and think whatever he says and thinks. I'm just left to wonder what the real Drew Brees thinks.

100% damage control. It's obvious what Brees thinks.
yeah, kinda what I was thinking.

you can't really screech "TROOPS"! and "AMERICA"! one day and the next day proclaim to be in tune with systemic racism that is tightly woven through the fabric of America that you claimed to adore just 24 hours ago.



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Post by Turtleneck 2020-06-05, 11:14

The Pantry wrote:No. It's just you and your crew do a helluva lot of twisting.

Thank you. I think that is your deepest, most explanatory post yet.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2020-06-05, 12:45

apparently Maria Taylor let the racists have it on one of the ESPN shows this morning.

Good for her - I love seeing high profile people finally taking a public stand.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2020-06-05, 16:43

Apparent our racist, bigoted christian leader who hatbors contempt for traditional American values came out with a statement whining about Americans who peacefully protest.

Apparently, you can only kneel when you're doing so while choking the life out of a black person.

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Post by The Pantry 2020-06-05, 17:43

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Apparent our racist, bigoted christian leader who hatbors contempt for traditional American values came out with a statement whining about Americans who peacefully protest.

Apparently, you can only kneel when you're doing so while choking the life out of a black person.

Link? Fox News?
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Post by tGreenWay 2020-06-05, 19:40

Oregon State football kicks a player off its team after racist recording surfaces.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2020-06-05, 20:12

tGreenWay wrote:Oregon State football kicks a player off its team after racist recording surfaces.

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3143176001
love seeing this finally.

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Post by InTenSity 2020-06-05, 23:00

Drew bees will take the most sacks when the NFL starts again.
Trump supporters are fucking racist.
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Post by tGreenWay 2020-06-05, 23:37

InTenSity wrote:Drew bees will take the most sacks when the NFL starts again.
Trump supporters are fucking racist.


‘member when the Saints got in trouble for putting bounties on opposing players? ‘member? That was really cool. Drew Brees is gonna find out that was nothing compared to what he’s going to experience.
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Post by The Pantry 2020-06-06, 01:14

InTenSity wrote:Drew bees will take the most sacks when the NFL starts again.
Trump supporters are fucking racist.
I'm not racist.  There are many minority people that support Trump.  Please stop stereotyping and talking out your angry ass.  It's non-productive.


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Post by Heat Miser 2020-06-06, 01:17

The Pantry wrote:
InTenSity wrote:Drew bees will take the most sacks when the NFL starts again.
Trump supporters are fucking racist.
I'm not racist. There are many minority people that support Trump. Please stop stereotyping and talking out your ass. It's non-productive.

Many people are saying Trump supporters are racist. That's just what I've heard. Many people. Who knows? Maybe...maybe not. But many people are saying it.

Sound familiar?
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Post by The Pantry 2020-06-06, 01:29

Heat Miser wrote:
The Pantry wrote:I'm not racist.  There are many minority people that support Trump.  Please stop stereotyping and talking out your ass.  It's non-productive.

Many people are saying Trump supporters are racist. That's just what I've heard. Many people. Who knows? Maybe...maybe not. But many people are saying it.

Sound familiar?
Keep twisting.  

Look up Senator Tim Scott from South Carolina.  I'd gladly vote for him after Trump wins the next election.
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Post by Rocinante 2020-06-06, 02:15

The Pantry wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Many people are saying Trump supporters are racist. That's just what I've heard. Many people. Who knows? Maybe...maybe not. But many people are saying it.

Sound familiar?
Keep twisting.  

Look up Senator Tim Scott from South Carolina.  I'd gladly vote for him after Trump wins the next election.

Bahaaa! Tim Scott and Diamond and Silk.

Bless your heart.
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