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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 26/08/20, 04:44 pm

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fuck books = "porn".

she's posed nekkid.

ergo, she's done porn.

and christians love her because, like them, they're racist.

and the mainstream media elevates her and her mutant family because they're good for ratings.


That's a pretty evangelical-type definition from you, Bob, to consider posing naked to be porn.

But I wasnt arguing the term, just pointing out this odd little footnote to the 2020 election.
christians are a fucked up bunch.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 26/08/20, 04:46 pm

If mother lets him, Mike "I Like Gay SeXXX" Pence is speaking tonight at the KKK rally.

I bet the podium will be constructed of aborted (white) fetuses.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher on 26/08/20, 08:26 pm

I'm not stating anything new but had an experience tonight that has me somewhat flabbergasted just at how cult-tastic this whole Trump thing is. It is unlike anything I've ever seen in my life. I was in Northern Macomb this evening. Lots of yard signs. Tons of them. But then, the kicker. A roadside SOUVENIR STAND/TENT. This was around Romeo Plank and 29 mile or so. Flags, shirts, towels, banners, etc. Crazy. I mean I was pretty young with Reagan and I know he was wildly popular but was he so popular among his base that he elicited fucking souvenir stands? I doubt it.

Obviously this President is not that popular across the full spectrum of people or registered voters, but among his base, it is some hard core hero worship. It is fucking nuts.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 26/08/20, 08:43 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I'm not stating anything new but had an experience tonight that has me somewhat flabbergasted just at how cult-tastic this whole Trump thing is. It is unlike anything I've ever seen in my life. I was in Northern Macomb this evening. Lots of yard signs. Tons of them. But then, the kicker. A roadside SOUVENIR STAND/TENT. This was around Romeo Plank and 29 mile or so. Flags, shirts, towels, banners, etc. Crazy. I mean I was pretty young with Reagan and I know he was wildly popular but was he so popular among his base that he elicited fucking souvenir stands? I doubt it.

Obviously this President is not that popular across the full spectrum of people or registered voters, but among his base, it is some hard core hero worship. It is fucking nuts.
racism and hate are powerful attributes and motivators.

Much more so than hope and love.
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Post by kingstonlake on 26/08/20, 08:45 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I'm not stating anything new but had an experience tonight that has me somewhat flabbergasted just at how cult-tastic this whole Trump thing is. It is unlike anything I've ever seen in my life. I was in Northern Macomb this evening. Lots of yard signs. Tons of them. But then, the kicker. A roadside SOUVENIR STAND/TENT. This was around Romeo Plank and 29 mile or so. Flags, shirts, towels, banners, etc. Crazy. I mean I was pretty young with Reagan and I know he was wildly popular but was he so popular among his base that he elicited fucking souvenir stands? I doubt it.

Obviously this President is not that popular across the full spectrum of people or registered voters, but among his base, it is some hard core hero worship. It is fucking nuts.

Saw the same thing in Oscoda. If you’ve ever spent more than 5 minutes in Oscoda you’d expect that there would be an actual store selling that garbage.
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 26/08/20, 08:55 pm

It's like they're supporting a sports team, WBH. They even have sports jerseys made with the number 45. And have you seen the flags with Trumps head super imposed on the body of Schwarzeneager from Predator (I think that's what the body image with a machine gun is from...that or maybe Stallone/Rambo). It is all just so WEIRD.

Keep in mind, people pay money for those souvenirs. Other political campaigns give their branded swag away for free to promote the candidate. These guys charge for it...and people pay. So....fucking....WEIRD.
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 26/08/20, 09:02 pm

kingstonlake wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I'm not stating anything new but had an experience tonight that has me somewhat flabbergasted just at how cult-tastic this whole Trump thing is. It is unlike anything I've ever seen in my life. I was in Northern Macomb this evening. Lots of yard signs. Tons of them. But then, the kicker. A roadside SOUVENIR STAND/TENT. This was around Romeo Plank and 29 mile or so. Flags, shirts, towels, banners, etc. Crazy. I mean I was pretty young with Reagan and I know he was wildly popular but was he so popular among his base that he elicited fucking souvenir stands? I doubt it.

Obviously this President is not that popular across the full spectrum of people or registered voters, but among his base, it is some hard core hero worship. It is fucking nuts.

Saw the same thing in Oscoda. If you’ve ever spent more than 5 minutes in Oscoda you’d expect that there would be an actual store selling that garbage.


I saw one of those stands about a couple of years ago, in the sticks between Tampa and Gainesville. So it wasn't even any kind of a campaign thing at all, just the weird fandom of Team Trump. So WEIRD.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 26/08/20, 09:33 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:It's like they're supporting a sports team, WBH. They even have sports jerseys made with the number 45.  And have you seen the flags with Trumps head super imposed on the body of Schwarzeneager from Predator (I think that's what the body image with a machine gun is from...that or maybe Stallone/Rambo).  It is all just so WEIRD.

Keep in mind, people pay money for those souvenirs.  Other political campaigns give their branded swag away for free to promote the candidate.  These guys charge for it...and people pay.  So....fucking....WEIRD.
the crazy thing about it is that their christian hero detests them. He hates them. He mocks them. They have absolutely nothing in common with him
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except (and this is a big "except").. he hates the same people they hate. And he inflicts pain on the same people they hate.

And as long as he keeps doing that, they'll never turn their back on him.
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Post by steveschneider on 27/08/20, 07:49 am

Going to order a Biden/Harris sign the one with aviators. I feel like it will get vandalized but f it.
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Post by Jake from State Farm on 27/08/20, 08:25 am

steveschneider wrote:Going to order a Biden/Harris sign the one with aviators. I feel like it will get vandalized but f it.

I'm pretty sure it would be gone or destroyed if I put one in my front yard.

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Post by steveschneider on 27/08/20, 08:30 am

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steveschneider wrote:Going to order a Biden/Harris sign the one with aviators. I feel like it will get vandalized but f it.

I'm pretty sure it would be gone or destroyed if I put one in my front yard.

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Glad you said it. I think there’s a reason a lot of people don’t have them up they fear they’ll be targeted for vandalism. Also, my woke sjw friends think Biden and Pelosi are the devil so I’m wondering what good it would do me to put one up.
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 27/08/20, 08:37 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I'm not stating anything new but had an experience tonight that has me somewhat flabbergasted just at how cult-tastic this whole Trump thing is. It is unlike anything I've ever seen in my life. I was in Northern Macomb this evening. Lots of yard signs. Tons of them. But then, the kicker. A roadside SOUVENIR STAND/TENT. This was around Romeo Plank and 29 mile or so. Flags, shirts, towels, banners, etc. Crazy. I mean I was pretty young with Reagan and I know he was wildly popular but was he so popular among his base that he elicited fucking souvenir stands? I doubt it.

Obviously this President is not that popular across the full spectrum of people or registered voters, but among his base, it is some hard core hero worship. It is fucking nuts.

The saw the signs everywhere I went in St. Clair (the city and county) recently. Scary.

The souvenir stand is even scarier. I ride my bike up that way a lot, and hadn't seen it yet.
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Post by Jake from State Farm on 27/08/20, 09:20 am

steveschneider wrote:Going to order a Biden/Harris sign the one with aviators. I feel like it will get vandalized but f it.

Where are you ordering from? There's a bunch on Amazon but who knows if the money actually goes to the Biden-Harris campaign.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 27/08/20, 09:54 am

Caught a few clips from the RNC KKK rally.. those christians are a special kind of fucking crazy. The 2020 Presidential campaign. - Page 9 502811600

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Post by steveschneider on 27/08/20, 09:55 am

Jake from State Farm wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Going to order a Biden/Harris sign the one with aviators. I feel like it will get vandalized but f it.

Where are you ordering from? There's a bunch on Amazon but who knows if the money actually goes to the Biden-Harris campaign.

Saw a link on FB to the official campaign. I like the one with the Ray Ban Aviators on it. Funny just drove down to get my coffee and asked the owner if he's seen any Biden signs in town. None. Not a single one. I drove back and there's a house on a corner that usually has all the latest political signs up. He has a BLM sign up on his corner but not a single Biden sign. In 16 I saw far more I'm With Her signs at this point and she's considered less likeable than Joe.
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Post by GRR Spartan on 27/08/20, 10:00 am

Saw portions of VP Pence speech Wednesday evening.

Where is the place about which he was speaking?

It sounded as if it was coming from a character in Stephen King’s 11.22.63.  Like VP Pence has found a secret door at Number One Observatory Circle that takes him back to 1955.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 27/08/20, 10:45 am

so our christian hero pardoned a bank robber and another American patriot dude, apparently, stood up out of his wheelchair like some televangelist miracle thing.

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Post by steveschneider on 27/08/20, 10:58 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:so our christian hero pardoned a bank robber and another American patriot dude, apparently, stood up out of his wheelchair like some televangelist miracle thing.

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In that link I posted a page or two back about the rise of authoritarianism he noted that all despots are viewed as beyond ordinary humans and to have divine/god like powers by their following. What you described is right out of the authoritarian playbook. Normal sane people like us laugh at this shit but it's actually becoming more and more frightening by the day.
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Post by Jake from State Farm on 27/08/20, 11:04 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:so our christian hero pardoned a bank robber and another American patriot dude, apparently, stood up out of his wheelchair like some televangelist miracle thing.

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Is the RNC also being held in a big tent in the middle of Bumfuct, Iowa?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 27/08/20, 12:00 pm

Jake from State Farm wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:so our christian hero pardoned a bank robber and another American patriot dude, apparently, stood up out of his wheelchair like some televangelist miracle thing.

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Is the RNC also being held in a big tent in the middle of Bumfuct, Iowa?
no idea.. we should check with Miami.
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Post by steveschneider on 27/08/20, 12:53 pm

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I’ve seen all sorts of pundits melt down about this saying it’s a huge mistake. I just listened to it and she’s obviously saying it as an aside and I thought she made a good point.
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 27/08/20, 01:14 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
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Is the RNC also being held in a big tent in the middle of Bumfuct, Iowa?
no idea.. we should check with Miami.


????
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 27/08/20, 01:17 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:so our christian hero pardoned a bank robber and another American patriot dude, apparently, stood up out of his wheelchair like some televangelist miracle thing.

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I believe that was the guy that said that his favorite example of young people making a difference was that James Madison signed the Declaration of Independence when he was 25 years old.

(NARRATOR: James Madison never signed the Declaration Of Independence)
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Post by Floyd Robertson on 27/08/20, 01:42 pm

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Post by steveschneider on 27/08/20, 02:12 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:[tw]1298990902682107904[/tw]

Awesome stuff. K Harris is going to give the response speech as well.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 27/08/20, 02:26 pm

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:no idea.. we should check with Miami.


????
I just figured since you're usually quite responsive telling me what to say, think, do, read, watch, etc - you'd know more about where the RNC is than I would.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 27/08/20, 02:33 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:so our christian hero pardoned a bank robber and another American patriot dude, apparently, stood up out of his wheelchair like some televangelist miracle thing.

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I believe that was the guy that said that his favorite example of young people making a difference was that James Madison signed the Declaration of Independence when he was 25 years old.

(NARRATOR:  James Madison never signed the Declaration Of Independence)
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about the debate thing, Nancy is absolutely right - the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator is gonna demonstrate his drug-addicted and diseased brain, as he grunts and groans and shouts out one syllable words the whole time and as long as he doesn't die on stage (which would be cool), the mainstream media will declare him the "winner".

debates are stupid. They're not even debates and nobody comes away with any degree of knowledge or information they didn't have beforehand. They're just a tool for the mainstream media to amplify their predetermined agenda and talking points so they can take advantage of stupid, gullible Americans in hopes of getting some ratings.

that said, no way Biden won't debate.. Nancy is probably just doing what she does best and needling at the right wing hate machine so they can talk about Biden having dementia as their christian hero literally can't string more than 2-3 words together and drinks water with two hands, as a sippy cup isn't a good look.

come to think of it, it might be a move by Pelosi to have the right wing hate machine come out and say "see, I told you so" about Biden and then when he does show up and presents himself as the career public servant that he is, the GOP will look like the hate-filled idiots they are for suggesting that he was the one with the mental health issues.
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 27/08/20, 04:26 pm

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????
I just figured since you're usually quite responsive telling me what to say, think, do, read, watch, etc - you'd know more about where the RNC is than I would.

Wink

Link to any time that I have ever told you what to say, think, do, read, watch, etc.? Surely you're not still whining that I asked if you had read an article (which, as I said, wasn't telling you TO read it, and I asked only because the quote you pulled was completely contrary to everything else in the article).

Is that what you think, if someone has the gall to disagree with you or point out your nonsense, that they're trying to tell you what to say, think, do, read, watch?
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 27/08/20, 04:50 pm

Htting Trump where it hurts most, the RNC ratings have been down overall, and down compared to the DNC.

Monday night, the RNC had the lowest ratings of any major political convention since at least 2004, maybe longer. Definitely below the DNC night 1.

Tuesday, they were just slightly above the DNC's second night.

But last night, they were 24% below Night 3 of the DNC. And that is with 3 sports leagues being cancelled last night. I'm sure they lost some viewers in Louisiana and East Texas, but that wouldn't make up more than 1-2% tops.

He might get a bump for the trainwreck viewing tonight, but I don't think he can make up this deficit in 1 night.
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Post by Cameron on 27/08/20, 04:54 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
I just figured since you're usually quite responsive telling me what to say, think, do, read, watch, etc - you'd know more about where the RNC is than I would.

Wink

Link to any time that I have ever told you what to say, think, do, read, watch, etc.?   Surely you're not still whining that I asked if you had read an article (which, as I said, wasn't telling you TO read it, and I asked only because the quote you pulled was completely contrary to everything else in the article).

Is that what you think, if someone has the gall to disagree with you or point out your nonsense, that they're trying to tell you what to say, think, do, read, watch?
Bob seems to think that if he is self deprecating enough often enough, it will escape everyone's notice that he is an extremely smug, condescending person, and he turns to trolling ("needling" as he calls it) whenever he feels insecure. He's totally unwilling to engage in any serious discussion, so if he can annoy you enough to make you mad or make you go away, he considers that a win.
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Post by steveschneider on 27/08/20, 04:57 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:


I believe that was the guy that said that his favorite example of young people making a difference was that James Madison signed the Declaration of Independence when he was 25 years old.

(NARRATOR:  James Madison never signed the Declaration Of Independence)
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about the debate thing, Nancy is absolutely right - the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator is gonna demonstrate his drug-addicted and diseased brain, as he grunts and groans and shouts out one syllable words the whole time and as long as he doesn't die on stage (which would be cool), the mainstream media will declare him the "winner".

debates are stupid. They're not even debates and nobody comes away with any degree of knowledge or information they didn't have beforehand. They're just a tool for the mainstream media to amplify their predetermined agenda and talking points so they can take advantage of stupid, gullible Americans in hopes of getting some ratings.

that said, no way Biden won't debate.. Nancy is probably just doing what she does best and needling at the right wing hate machine so they can talk about Biden having dementia as their christian hero literally can't string more than 2-3 words together and drinks water with two hands, as a sippy cup isn't a good look.

come to think of it, it might be a move by Pelosi to have the right wing hate machine come out and say "see, I told you so" about Biden and then when he does show up and presents himself as the career public servant that he is, the GOP will look like the hate-filled idiots they are for suggesting that he was the one with the mental health issues.

She clearly said it as an aside, and they took a snippet of the quote and ran with a dumb ass story. Also, why debate someone who pushes an alternate reality and lies with no shame. He'll say one thing at the start of the debate and another thing half way through it. What's the point? That being said of course Joe will debate him. The pundits completely missed her point.
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Post by Rocinante on 27/08/20, 05:56 pm

It doesn’t matter what the ratings were when tucker and Sean regurgitate all the talking points. Whatever their ratings were should be added to the total.
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Post by GRR Spartan on 27/08/20, 06:35 pm

Who, besides Trumpites and “conservative” zealots and reporters Are actively watching the GOP convention?

I go online and read about from multiple news outlets the next day to see if there’s anything shocking.
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Post by steveschneider on 27/08/20, 07:02 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:Who, besides Trumpites and “conservative” zealots and reporters Are actively watching the GOP convention?

I go online and read about from multiple news outlets the next day to see if there’s anything shocking.

No way I'm watching a klan rally or an authoritarian trying to destroy democracy. I've tried to pay very little attention to it. Also, I find Trump's act to be tired and old I just don't have the energy to watch him perform his act anymore.
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Post by MiamiSpartan on 27/08/20, 08:29 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:Who, besides Trumpites and “conservative” zealots and reporters Are actively watching the GOP convention?


You're largely right. FoxNews has been accounting for the majority of viewership. They had more viewers last night than ABC, CBS, and NBC combined.
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Post by Jake from State Farm on 27/08/20, 08:35 pm

Is Trump going to announce his Big Beautiful Healthcare Plan tonight or maybe his Big Beautiful Immigration Plan? He's been putting them off for way more than two weeks and it seems like tonight would be a perfect time to do so.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 27/08/20, 08:56 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: I just figured since you're usually quite responsive telling me what to say, think, do, read, watch, etc - you'd know more about where the RNC is than I would.

Wink

Link to any time that I have ever told you what to say, think, do, read, watch, etc.? Surely you're not still whining that I asked if you had read an article (which, as I said, wasn't telling you TO read it, and I asked only because the quote you pulled was completely contrary to everything else in the article).

Is that what you think, if someone has the gall to disagree with you or point out your nonsense, that they're trying to tell you what to say, think, do, read, watch?
so do you onow where the RNC KKK rally is being held?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 27/08/20, 08:58 pm

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GRR Spartan wrote:Who, besides Trumpites and “conservative” zealots and reporters Are actively watching the GOP convention?

I go online and read about from multiple news outlets the next day to see if there’s anything shocking.

No way I'm watching a klan rally or an authoritarian trying to destroy democracy. I've tried to pay very little attention to it. Also, I find Trump's act to be tired and old I just don't have the energy to watch him perform his act anymore.
I'm listening to Steve Earle.. had some takeout from Charlie Kang.. heading to bed. Long run planned tomorrow morning.

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Post by steveschneider on 27/08/20, 09:07 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Who, besides Trumpites and “conservative” zealots and reporters Are actively watching the GOP convention?


You're largely right. FoxNews has been accounting for the majority of viewership. They had more viewers last night than ABC, CBS, and NBC combined.

Colbert did his entire monologue last night claiming he didn't watch a second of the convention last night and it was supposed to be his live post convention show. People just don't have the energy to watch his bullshit anymore. He's only speaking to his cult at this point and they are completely detached from reality.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano on 28/08/20, 09:36 am

saw that Rand Paul is whining about being "attacked"...The 2020 Presidential campaign. - Page 9 502811600 The 2020 Presidential campaign. - Page 9 502811600
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