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Post by DWags 07/09/20, 01:05 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I've got a pretty bad feeling about what all is going to play out. This thing is just getting more toxic. His supporters are rabid and many of them are embracing hatred and violence. I hope I am wrong but I could see a scenario where he loses, is forced down from his throne, but continues to incite division and carries a significant following leading to years of unrest. The moderates won't all follow but the cult will. It is a cult. Literally. Fits the definition.

I’ll have two weeks of meat, a month of dry goods and two months of canned food and water in the basement.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 07/09/20, 01:19 pm

DWags wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I've got a pretty bad feeling about what all is going to play out. This thing is just getting more toxic. His supporters are rabid and many of them are embracing hatred and violence. I hope I am wrong but I could see a scenario where he loses, is forced down from his throne, but continues to incite division and carries a significant following leading to years of unrest. The moderates won't all follow but the cult will. It is a cult. Literally. Fits the definition.

I’ll have two weeks of meat, a month of dry goods and two months of canned food and water in the basement.

Dummy, you just told us whose house to invade when the shit hits the fan.

PS my garage mini freezer crapped out last week. You want to talk about another consumer product that has been hit by coronavid? Try and go out and buy a freezer.
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Post by MiamiSpartan 07/09/20, 02:10 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
DWags wrote:

I’ll have two weeks of meat, a month of dry goods and two months of canned food and water in the basement.

Dummy, you just told us whose house to invade when the shit hits the fan.

PS my garage mini freezer crapped out last week. You want to talk about another consumer product that has been hit by coronavid? Try and go out and buy a freezer.


Sounds like you're just trying to throw us off so we don't know that you turned your whole garage into a giant walk-in freezer stocked with years worth of food.

Sure, your "mini" fridge just happened to "crap out".
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 08/09/20, 05:52 am

Saw that our christian hero's drug addiction was in its full glory yesterday.

Apparently, he literally had stuff oozing out of his disgusting face. The 2020 Presidential campaign. - Page 14 502811600
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Post by Jake from State Farm 08/09/20, 07:27 am

How many groups of people did Trump insult for Labor Day?

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Post by MiamiSpartan 08/09/20, 07:58 am

Trump this weekend: I've built up a military that was completely depleted, and built this new ship, and that new type of plane, etc.

Also Trump this weekend: The generals don't like me because they just want to support defense contractors.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 08/09/20, 08:07 am

Jake from State Farm wrote:How many groups of people did Trump insult for Labor Day?

the entire makeup of civilized humanity.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 08/09/20, 08:38 am

MiamiSpartan wrote:Trump this weekend: I've built up a military that was completely depleted, and built this new ship, and that new type of plane, etc.

Also Trump this weekend: The generals don't like me because they just want to support defense contractors.

I think he also golfed on the company dime again.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 08/09/20, 09:16 am

I guess he was defending not going in some interview yesterday...

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Post by steveschneider 08/09/20, 09:31 am

A Trump bilboard came crashing down the other day. I hope this is a sign of things to come.
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Post by MiamiSpartan 08/09/20, 10:14 am

Floyd Robertson wrote:I guess he was defending not going in some interview yesterday...

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I like how even when it comes to the weather, it is the most extreme superlatives. "It was the worst weather. No one has ever seen rain like that. The fog, my god the fog, it was like the thickest pea soup anyone has ever heard of. It didn't taste as good as pea soup though. Especially the pea soup at the Trump resorts, which is really incredible. Many people say they've never had better pea soup any where in the world. It's not like that soup that the left wing radical anarchists are throwing at police. You know why they throw that? Because it isn't as good as the soup at my resorts. China wishes they could make soup like us. They are a failed soup country, and now they're trying to steal our soup recipes through Tik Tok. We can't let that happen. I mean, what would the great American Soupy Sales say about that? He'd know that if Slow Joe and the radical left are elected, he will abolish soup. You won't be able to get it anywhere. "
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 08/09/20, 10:41 am

I'm starting to think that he's a racist christian who hates the military and has an ugly contempt for America.

If only there was a way to have known this..
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 08/09/20, 11:48 am

Rumor that the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator is so strapped for cash, he's thinking of donating 100 million dollars of Putin's money to his own campaign.

Contrast that to Biden raising 364 million dollars in Auguat alone.

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Post by DWags 08/09/20, 12:49 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:I guess he was defending not going in some interview yesterday...

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I'm just waiting for the line he crosses with his zombies that is a line too far. Even for them. There has to be some point where even the most ardent defenders of his lies, and hate, has to say, "whoa, Don, that's a bridge too far". Some of the kids I taught and coached and am friends with on facebook, who saw action in our military overseas and are very much into the military are still defending him over this and the bounty for soldiers.
I've never seen such a thing, ever. He controls their every thought and emotion. It's really quite amazing.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 08/09/20, 01:05 pm

It doesn't exist, that line.
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Post by kingstonlake 08/09/20, 01:26 pm

Bold ass prediction. James beats Peters. Which of course means Trump wins Michigan.
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Post by GRR Spartan 08/09/20, 01:35 pm

kingstonlake wrote:Bold ass prediction. James beats Peters. Which of course means Trump wins Michigan.

Basis for your prediction?

I disagree but want to know your reason(s)
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Post by kingstonlake 08/09/20, 02:15 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Bold ass prediction. James beats Peters. Which of course means Trump wins Michigan.

Basis for your prediction?

I disagree but want to know your reason(s)

Most polls (take them for what they’re worth) show the race narrowing between the two. I don’t see that as a good sign. I’ve seen quite a few James ads. The one where it claims Peters was absent for like 80% of votes is effective (not saying it’s true). The poll I put the most weight in, Trafalgar, has it very tight. I think their polling model makes sense.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 08/09/20, 02:23 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Bold ass prediction. James beats Peters. Which of course means Trump wins Michigan.

Basis for your prediction?

I disagree but want to know your reason(s)

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/mi/michigan_senate_james_vs_peters-6964.html

One recent poll has James up a point.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 08/09/20, 02:27 pm

kingstonlake wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:

Basis for your prediction?

I disagree but want to know your reason(s)

Most polls (take them for what they’re worth) show the race narrowing  between the two. I don’t see that as a good sign. I’ve seen quite a few James ads. The one where it claims Peters was absent for like 80% of votes is effective (not saying it’s true). The poll I put the most weight in, Trafalgar, has it very tight. I think their polling model makes sense.

I agree that ad is effective. Fighting it is going to be hard.
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Post by kingstonlake 08/09/20, 02:29 pm

It’s said the Trafalgar is to heavily weighted towards rural and over 45’s. Time will tell.
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Post by MiamiSpartan 08/09/20, 02:57 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Rumor that the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator is so strapped for cash, he's thinking of donating 100 million dollars of Putin's money to his own campaign.

Contrast that to Biden raising 364 million dollars in Auguat alone.



Stories have been circulating that his campaign may be running out of funds. He pulled all those ads in July (first in Michigan, then everywhere), and now has recently pulled out of a couple of states that he had been targeting (AZ, and one or two others). Biden's huge August fundraising had to have hit Trump hard. Trump was touting his record fundraising in July, which was around 160m. Biden more than doubling that in August is amazing. Now he's saying that Biden's mega rich donors in the deep state did it, but Biden's average donation in August was $40.
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Post by kingstonlake 08/09/20, 03:17 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Rumor that the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator is so strapped for cash, he's thinking of donating 100 million dollars of Putin's money to his own campaign.

Contrast that to Biden raising 364 million dollars in Auguat alone.



Stories have been circulating that his campaign may be running out of funds. He pulled all those ads in July (first in Michigan, then everywhere), and now has recently pulled out of a couple of states that he had been targeting (AZ, and one or two others). Biden's huge August fundraising had to have hit Trump hard. Trump was touting his record fundraising in July, which was around 160m. Biden more than doubling that in August is amazing. Now he's saying that Biden's mega rich donors in the deep state did it, but Biden's average donation in August was $40.

Biden’s FB machine keeps running ads about how he’s trailing or in a dead heat in states. Had one today showing he’s trailing Trump by 11pts among independents.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 08/09/20, 03:24 pm

kingstonlake wrote:Bold ass prediction. James beats Peters. Which of course means Trump wins Michigan.
that's the black guy that likes helicopters.


Oh, and the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator is gonna win.
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Post by Cameron 08/09/20, 07:22 pm

Someone should have told Donnie four years ago that starting to campaign for reelection before you've even taken office is a great way to make your campaign go broke.
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Post by GRR Spartan 08/09/20, 07:39 pm

James has had the DeVos family pour over $4M into his campaign since July.  Amway also hired James wife as a VP in early 2019 after James lost to Stabenow.

Peters did miss committee meetings.  Earlier version of the ad said he was chairman which was false.  A minority member is never the chair of any committee.  I have been told be someone who works for Stabenaw that the GOP often schedules meetings to ensure minority members have conflicts.

James isn't lacking money and has more than the sitting Senator while is unusual but its also unusual to have the MI GOP bankers (The DeVos family) hire a candidate's spouse fo a 6 figure salary months after her husband lost his first US Senate campaign.

If Biden can win MI with 50% of the margin Whitmer had in 2018, I suspect Peters will win.

I'm waiting for James to explain what he thinks of the GOP wanting to remove minority and women ownded business rules for awarding govenment contracts when the business his father founded with his mother listed as an owner is based on that part of Civil Rights legislation.  

If the minority voters in Detroit, Kalamazoo and GR show up I think Peters wins.  Don't see James overcoming his at the hip connections with Betsy DeVos who isn't a popular person.

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Post by steveschneider 08/09/20, 08:00 pm


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Post by Robert J Sakimano 08/09/20, 09:01 pm

steveschneider wrote:
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yep.

The racist bigoted is gonna declare himself the winner and create whatever chaos is necessary for the Miovians to take to the streets and riot/commit acts of violence if an official winner hasn't been declared.
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Post by kingstonlake 09/09/20, 06:49 am

I’m a shitty human being for saying it but Bill Barr really needs to meet a series of unfortunate events. Soon.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 09/09/20, 07:29 am

kingstonlake wrote:I’m a shitty human being for saying it but Bill Barr really needs to meet a series of unfortunate events. Soon.

Not as terrible a human being a Barr in taking over Trump's defense in a rape case using an obscure legal precedent that a man of his girth could barely limbo under.
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Post by kingstonlake 09/09/20, 08:33 am

Floyd Robertson wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:I’m a shitty human being for saying it but Bill Barr really needs to meet a series of unfortunate events. Soon.

Not as terrible a human being a Barr in taking over Trump's defense in a rape case using an obscure legal precedent that a man of his girth could barely limbo under.

Of all in Trumps orbit he is by far the most destructive. Trump didn’t pick him by happenstance. He’s become more brazen in what he thinks America should be.  He subtly laying the groundwork for nullifying all non absentee  mail in ballots.

It’s not a coincidence that he said “you’re playing with fire” in regards to mail in voting and within a few days Trump encourages people to vote twice.
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Post by GRR Spartan 09/09/20, 09:31 am

Barr having the DOJ taking over for Trump’s defense counsel is more about the recent story of Trump spending over $50M of campaign donations on personal legal expenses, Trump not wanting to spend his own money and delays.

Hard to ask the same people for more cash when it’s exposed your campaign money that’s supposed to be going to getting you re-elected is going to lawyers to cover your fuckups prior to being elected.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 09/09/20, 12:42 pm

lordy, there are tapes.

not that the pro-life MAGA christian patriots will care.. but the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator is on tape with Bob Woodward back in (I believe) February talking about how the virus is more serious than being reported and admitting to downplaying it.
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Post by MiamiSpartan 09/09/20, 01:12 pm

kingstonlake wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

Not as terrible a human being a Barr in taking over Trump's defense in a rape case using an obscure legal precedent that a man of his girth could barely limbo under.

Of all in Trumps orbit he is by far the most destructive. Trump didn’t pick him by happenstance. He’s become more brazen in what he thinks America should be.  He subtly laying the groundwork for nullifying all non absentee  mail in ballots.

It’s not a coincidence that he said “you’re playing with fire” in regards to mail in voting and within a few days Trump encourages people to vote twice.


Ok, I'll bite. How would the US Attorney General be able to nullify non-absentee mail-in ballots?


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Post by Floyd Robertson 09/09/20, 01:28 pm

This is less about the election than it is about what Biden should do after inauguration, in George Will's opinion. It's interesting, and sobering to think we'd lose a war against China.

This is who Joe Biden should nominate as defense secretary
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 09/09/20, 01:48 pm

Swastika Barbie just said that the "president never downplayed the virus".



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Post by steveschneider 09/09/20, 02:48 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Swastika Barbie just said that the "president never downplayed the virus".




You referring to the latest Bob Woodward book? I guess there's pretty 'damning audio' about Trump down playing the virus. IMO this won't matter to his cult followers.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 09/09/20, 02:55 pm

steveschneider wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Swastika Barbie just said that the "president never downplayed the virus".




You referring to the latest Bob Woodward book? I guess there's pretty 'damning audio' about Trump down playing the virus. IMO this won't matter to his cult followers.
oh, heck no - they're too 'pro life' to care about the death of 200,000 Americans.

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Post by kingstonlake 09/09/20, 03:28 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Of all in Trumps orbit he is by far the most destructive. Trump didn’t pick him by happenstance. He’s become more brazen in what he thinks America should be.  He subtly laying the groundwork for nullifying all non absentee  mail in ballots.

It’s not a coincidence that he said “you’re playing with fire” in regards to mail in voting and within a few days Trump encourages people to vote twice.


Ok, I'll bite. How would the US Attorney General be able to nullify non-absentee mail-in ballots?

Does the attorney general enforce federal law?

A year ago we’d have all laughed at the idea of an attorney general saying a sitting president is immune to prosecution.
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Post by Rocinante 09/09/20, 03:32 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:This is less about the election than it is about what Biden should do after inauguration, in George Will's opinion. It's interesting, and sobering to think we'd lose a war against China.

This is who Joe Biden should nominate as defense secretary

Fuck that bow tie wearing rape denying piece of shit.

The moderate right has gotten too much fucking attention in this campaign. No wonder Biden is underperforming with blacks and Latinx folks. Oh but it’s ok, we have the lukewarm support of white suburban women. If Biden takes one shred of advice from that shit head, he might as well switch parties.
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