The 2020 Presidential campaign.

by **kingstonlake** 2020-11-06, 11:27

If Biden holds a 4 million popular vote advantage, that 4 million is larger than 25 of the 50 states population.

by **kingstonlake** 2020-11-06, 11:29

Ronna McDaniel claiming very serious violations in Michigan (yeah, I know it's her job). Of all the suits thrown out there she focused exclusively on Michigan.

by **Motown Spartan** 2020-11-06, 11:42

It’s funny (ironic) watching the GOP protesters in Detroit right now and thinking “don’t they have jobs to go to?”

by **MiamiSpartan** 2020-11-06, 11:42

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Pelosi calling this a mandate for Biden.

Slow your roll, lady.

Well, FWIW, when all votes are counted (remember lots of "called" states are still counting, even though it won't change who wins their state), Biden is expected to have the 2nd largest margin in the popular vote since 2000.

by **steveschneider** 2020-11-06, 11:47

Going off Cohn, Silver and Bitecofer seems like the threshold has been crossed. Just call the damn thing.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2020-11-06, 11:48

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Pelosi calling this a mandate for Biden.

Slow your roll, lady.

Well, FWIW, when all votes are counted (remember lots of "called" states are still counting, even though it won't change who wins their state), Biden is expected to have the 2nd largest margin in the popular vote since 2000.

But that's just in terms of gross vote totals, right? The mandate is only derived the percentage spread, IMHO.

by **Cameron** 2020-11-06, 11:50

Mandate for the Dems would be if they made gains in the house and took the senate. Since neither of those appear likely, it strikes me much more as a referendum on Trump than a mandate for Grandpa Joe.

by Heathens '87 2020-11-06, 12:01

Speaker Pelosi and other Democratic leaders will use the word "mandate." It isn't President-Elect Biden's style to do so. He's been quite clear that he's running as a course correction - a healer in chief. A one-term President isn't exactly common either. Bush and Carter in modern times, but then back to Hoover in 1928. I don't see a mandate but I do think Biden is setting the needed tone....

by **steveschneider** 2020-11-06, 12:20

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Goosebumps. I wonder if there a Vegas line on somebody eating a horse turd in that town.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2020-11-06, 12:21

Been out mowing one last time, leaf blowing, winterizing the Sakimano Estate, etc.

I appreciate y'all keeping me up to date here.

by **MiamiSpartan** 2020-11-06, 12:29

Floyd Robertson wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:

Well, FWIW, when all votes are counted (remember lots of "called" states are still counting, even though it won't change who wins their state), Biden is expected to have the 2nd largest margin in the popular vote since 2000.

But that's just in terms of gross vote totals, right? The mandate is only derived the percentage spread, IMHO.

I believe it is based on the percentage. Obama won by 7% in 2008, which is the biggest spread since 96, but only by 3.9% in 2012 (the current 2nd biggest spread. A lot of votes have to be counted in the blue states (mostly mail in), including California, so Silver or whoever said it thinks he might get up over a 4% margin in the popular vote.

by **Motown Spartan** 2020-11-06, 12:39

Apparently Rush Limbaugh just called the election for Biden. Dominos are starting to fall.

by **kingstonlake** 2020-11-06, 13:27

Motown Spartan wrote:Apparently Rush Limbaugh just called the election for Biden. Dominos are starting to fall.

Appropriate that it'll probably be the last one he'll ever make.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2020-11-06, 13:36

kingstonlake wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:Apparently Rush Limbaugh just called the election for Biden. Dominos are starting to fall.

Appropriate that it'll probably be the last one he'll ever make.

by **steveschneider** 2020-11-06, 13:39

Screw the networks. It’s over and we don’t need them to make it official. It’s Friday let the celebration begin.

by **DWags** 2020-11-06, 14:09

by **kingstonlake** 2020-11-06, 14:10

LOL Wags!

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2020-11-06, 14:14

When can I pop the champagne I bought?

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2020-11-06, 14:20

I'm pretty cautious and anti jinx. I think you can pop it.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2020-11-06, 14:24

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:When can I pop the champagne I bought?

Pop it when Biden speaks to the nation in prime time tonight.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2020-11-06, 14:41

Floyd Robertson wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:When can I pop the champagne I bought?

Pop it when Biden speaks to the nation in prime time tonight.

This seems fitting and i can have beer until then. do we know what time?

Nvm 8pm est

by **steveschneider** 2020-11-06, 14:48

Trump is planning a victory rally and won't concede.

https://www.ted.com/talks/van_jones_what_if_a_us_presidential_candidate_refuses_to_concede_after_an_election?language=en

Worth a review if you are curious about all the challenges ahead. He goes over the extreme scenarios. Personally I'm not worried he's done but he is going to hang there as long as he can.

by **MiamiSpartan** 2020-11-06, 14:58

Remember, the vote counts is just the next step. We have a couple of weeks or more before most states certify their ballots. We have until mid-December before electors cast their votes. And we have until early January before the electoral votes are read before Congress.

Meanwhile, the legal wrangling will kick into high(er) gear. The idiot protests will kick into gear. And regardless of the outcome of any of that, there is up to 2.5 months that Trump has to be vindictive against this country.

But the vote count, and Biden getting full agreement from all the media that he IS the official President-Elect is a very huge and important step. I'm encouraged that the early legal challenges have been so weak and many thrown out. And that Pennsylvania's margin is likely to grow more than big enough that any battle over counting votes after election day, won't matter. But there is still the chance of a lot of nonsense.

by **steveschneider** 2020-11-06, 15:00

MiamiSpartan wrote:Remember, the vote counts is just the next step. We have a couple of weeks or more before most states certify their ballots. We have until mid-December before electors cast their votes. And we have until early January before the electoral votes are read before Congress.

Meanwhile, the legal wrangling will kick into high(er) gear. The idiot protests will kick into gear. And regardless of the outcome of any of that, there is up to 2.5 months that Trump has to be vindictive against this country.

But the vote count, and Biden getting full agreement from all the media that he IS the official President-Elect is a very huge and important step. I'm encouraged that the early legal challenges have been so weak and many thrown out. And that Pennsylvania's margin is likely to grow more than big enough that any battle over counting votes after election day, won't matter. But there is still the chance of a lot of nonsense.

Might not be a bad time to put the 25th amendment to test. Can't let some asshole that is a sore loser and can't take this like a man take down the country with him.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2020-11-06, 15:06

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by **Cameron** 2020-11-06, 15:18

I hope Trump spends all of his time and energy over the next 2-3 months fighting these quixotic court battles. If he just accepted the loss and spent that time issuing executive orders, he could do a lot of damage.

by **steveschneider** 2020-11-06, 15:21

Cameron wrote:I hope Trump spends all of his time and energy over the next 2-3 months fighting these quixotic court battles. If he just accepted the loss and spent that time issuing executive orders, he could do a lot of damage.

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by **MiamiSpartan** 2020-11-06, 15:56

steveschneider wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:Remember, the vote counts is just the next step. We have a couple of weeks or more before most states certify their ballots. We have until mid-December before electors cast their votes. And we have until early January before the electoral votes are read before Congress.

Meanwhile, the legal wrangling will kick into high(er) gear. The idiot protests will kick into gear. And regardless of the outcome of any of that, there is up to 2.5 months that Trump has to be vindictive against this country.

But the vote count, and Biden getting full agreement from all the media that he IS the official President-Elect is a very huge and important step. I'm encouraged that the early legal challenges have been so weak and many thrown out. And that Pennsylvania's margin is likely to grow more than big enough that any battle over counting votes after election day, won't matter. But there is still the chance of a lot of nonsense.

Might not be a bad time to put the 25th amendment to test. Can't let some asshole that is a sore loser and can't take this like a man take down the country with him.

Hard to imagine enough of the sycophants in the cabinet going along with it.

But if he truly does feel that he is in legal trouble, he may resign so that Pence can pardon him. But he could probably wait until January 19th to do that.

by **kingstonlake** 2020-11-06, 15:57

Cameron wrote:I hope Trump spends all of his time and energy over the next 2-3 months fighting these quixotic court battles. If he just accepted the loss and spent that time issuing executive orders, he could do a lot of damage.

His time be better spent focusing on pending legal issues.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2020-11-06, 17:57

kingstonlake wrote:
Cameron wrote:I hope Trump spends all of his time and energy over the next 2-3 months fighting these quixotic court battles. If he just accepted the loss and spent that time issuing executive orders, he could do a lot of damage.

His time be better spent focusing on pending legal issues.

Yep. Swallwell is coming for Trump and his family.

by **MiamiSpartan** 2020-11-06, 17:57

Trump is, of course, begging for money to support his legal challenges. But if you plan on donating (because I know you guys will be), be aware that according to the fine print only 50% goes toward the recount fund. The other 50% goes toward his campaign's debt retirement.

But he could have raised more money than Biden if he wanted to.

by **steveschneider** 2020-11-06, 18:03

MiamiSpartan wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Might not be a bad time to put the 25th amendment to test. Can't let some asshole that is a sore loser and can't take this like a man take down the country with him.

Hard to imagine enough of the sycophants in the cabinet going along with it.

But if he truly does feel that he is in legal trouble, he may resign so that Pence can pardon him. But he could probably wait until January 19th to do that.

I don’t know keeping him around is going to be pretty damaging to our country. There’s some real nuts ready to go to war, there’s right wing terrorists and this guy is putting logs on the fire. This could actually get really ugly. News needs to call it and the right wingers need to have a talk to him about conceding with grace.

by **GRR Spartan** 2020-11-06, 18:07

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:When can I pop the champagne I bought?

I have a bottle of champagne that's been buried in the back of my refrigerator since Election Day 2016.

Thinking about opening after Nevada and PA are declared for Biden. Beginning to think of the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a train hurdling at me.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2020-11-06, 18:08

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by MattyFresh 2020-11-06, 18:34

Got my small dose of Fox News.. Jesse Watters on there saying that 4 states are razor thin like 2000 Florida. He was liking the 2020 results of Pennsylvania (14,541+), Michigan (146,123), Arizona (39,400+/-), and Wisconsin (20,542) to 2000 Bush v Gore in Florida... that vote was separated by 537 votes Jesse! I swear people on Fox News are so dense...

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2020-11-06, 18:49

MattyFresh wrote:Got my small dose of Fox News.. Jesse Watters on there saying that 4 states are razor thin like 2000 Florida. He was liking the 2020 results of Pennsylvania (14,541+), Michigan (146,123), Arizona (39,400+/-), and Wisconsin (20,542) to 2000 Bush v Gore in Florida... that vote was separated by 537 votes Jesse! I swear people on Fox News are so dense...

But he didn't include the actual closest vote in Georgia?

Que fuck?

by **Rocinante** 2020-11-06, 19:26

What the fuck. Just call it goddammit.

by **steveschneider** 2020-11-06, 19:31

He won’t leave. He’s attempting a coupe. The time to give him the boot is now.

by **MiamiSpartan** 2020-11-06, 19:43

steveschneider wrote:He won’t leave. He’s attempting a coupe. The time to give him the boot is now.

Calling for a certain coup in order to head of what you think will be a coup. Glad to see the inconsistency coming from both sides.

He has a right to challenge the results. Just because you don't want him to doesn't mean he doesn't have the right.

His challenges are bullshit. Many have been thrown out already. Many more will be thrown out and/or will be irrelevant to the final result.

If it wasn't for all the damage he could do until then, I'd actually like to see him refuse to leave, just to see him get perp-walked out of the White House.

by **MiamiSpartan** 2020-11-06, 19:46

I love how much Trump wants every vote counted now, even those received after election day (such as military ballots) while simultaneously going to the Supreme Court to get votes thrown out if they were received after election day (such as military ballots).

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