Can we talk about the athleticism of Thorne?

by **DWags** 2021-10-17, 00:42

I honestly think he might be the most athletic quarterback we’ve had in a long while. That catch was amazing.

by **DWags** 2021-10-17, 00:44

And Hunt threw the pass with his non dominant arm.

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by **Heat Miser** 2021-10-17, 00:48

Most athletic since Stanton?

by **DWags** 2021-10-17, 00:53

Heat Miser wrote:Most athletic since Stanton?

Definitely

by **The Pantry** 2021-10-17, 01:44

Crazy catch for anyone, much less a QB. The way Hunt put it up looked like it could get picked.

by **Rocinante** 2021-10-31, 16:12

He makes some weird choices under pressure. Teams should sell out on the run and bring blitzes if they can’t get pressure with 4 like Michigan could and make him beat them through the air. OSU and PU gonna be tough.

With his athleticism, I wish he’d take off more rather than force throws.

by **NigelUno** 2023-05-05, 13:53

Committed to Auburn.

by **DWags** 2023-05-05, 14:37

War Eagle. Beat Sabans Ass.

by **NigelUno** 2023-05-22, 08:49

Nice truck.

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by **DWags** 2023-05-22, 09:01

NigelUno wrote:Nice truck.

I can hear the negative recruiting right now. "Tuck lets you take pictures in borrowed cars, we give em to you."

by **Nordic** 2023-05-22, 09:06

That's an athletic truck

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2023-05-22, 09:07

I can hear the negative recruiting now “they were 5-7 last year”

I dunno man, I still don’t understand who in the world is like yes, I want to buy a $100,000 truck for Peyton fuckin Thorne so he can maybe lead our team to one season of 8-4. I can understand why there are people that want to throw shit tons of money at Caleb Williams. But is this really going to be sustainable in the long term for players that don’t deliver elite results?

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2023-05-22, 09:10

Is the plural of shit ton shit tons or shits ton

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-05-22, 09:14

Do you really think it is only about winning.

Maybe there are a bunch of wealthy doners competing amoung themselves to winning "doner of the year" so to speak and winning is secondary to being the doner who gave the most.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2023-05-22, 09:19

Trapper Gus wrote:Do you really think it is only about winning.

Maybe there are a bunch of wealthy doners competing amoung themselves to winning "doner of the year" so to speak and winning is secondary to being the doner who gave the most.

Sure, for now. But are they really going to be doing this, at this level, for very long? Maybe I guess. But it seems more likely to me that some level of sanity starts coming into play at some point.

by **duffy munn** 2023-05-22, 09:25

NigelUno wrote:Nice truck.

Some where, Barry Switzer is smiling

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-05-22, 09:26

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:Do you really think it is only about winning.

Maybe there are a bunch of wealthy doners competing amoung themselves to winning "doner of the year" so to speak and winning is secondary to being the doner who gave the most.

Sure, for now. But are they really going to be doing this, at this level, for very long? Maybe I guess. But it seems more likely to me that some level of sanity starts coming into play at some point.

Really not trying to make this about politics, however, there are the really wealthy and then there are the rest. The really wealthy can keep playing this game forever.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2023-05-22, 09:31

Politics? Okay man.

I understand that. And for Caleb Williams, drake maye, Marvin Harrison, sure go fuckin nuts. But there does come a point where you simply do not need to spend that amount of money for Thorne when a four wheeler instead of a truck could do the trick to get a comparable player. Hell they could get a comparable player that has more than one year of eligibility for cheaper.

by **NigelUno** 2023-05-22, 09:35

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I can hear the negative recruiting now “they were 5-7 last year”

I dunno man, I still don’t understand who in the world is like yes, I want to buy a $100,000 truck for Peyton fuckin Thorne so he can maybe lead our team to one season of 8-4. I can understand why there are people that want to throw shit tons of money at Caleb Williams. But is this really going to be sustainable in the long term for players that don’t deliver elite results?

Auburn was 5-7 last year.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-05-22, 09:38

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Politics? Okay man.

I understand that. And for Caleb Williams, drake maye, Marvin Harrison, sure go fuckin nuts. But there does come a point where you simply do not need to spend that amount of money for Thorne when a four wheeler instead of a truck could do the trick to get a comparable player. Hell they could get a comparable player that has more than one year of eligibility for cheaper.

It's all about how much they spend, that is the measure of their support in the "donner of the year" club. The ability of the player isn't the measure at all. No points given if their donation isn't "flashy" enough. Surprised it isn't a corvette. Seriously, what is one truck to a dealership.

(If I didn't put in that bit about politics someone else probably would)

by **DWags** 2023-05-22, 09:41

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I can hear the negative recruiting now “they were 5-7 last year”

I dunno man, I still don’t understand who in the world is like yes, I want to buy a $100,000 truck for Peyton fuckin Thorne so he can maybe lead our team to one season of 8-4. I can understand why there are people that want to throw shit tons of money at Caleb Williams. But is this really going to be sustainable in the long term for players that don’t deliver elite results?

The answer is no Travis. But if they don’t make changes it will become, just like America, an Oligarchy of football. The rich programs with oligarchs for alumni whose only passion is football because they have everything else in life will dominate because they won’t care if a miss happens. They have fuck you money and probably have umbrellas made of the skin from an elephant penis.

Then there will be schools like MSU that might gather up enough money to grab a guy here or there, but if it’s a miss, those who give will put pressure on the staff and athletic department to make changes and it will be a mess.

Seems like the natural progression from capitalism to oligarchy. Then, once there. the oligarchs are in charge and it leaves the rest of us scrambling for what’s left and getting pissed at each other.

By the way, i Don’ t see a fix for this, other than if you don’t like it don’t watch. But that’s like asking crack heads not to smoke crack if they don’t like their addiction.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2023-05-22, 09:44

DWags wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I can hear the negative recruiting now “they were 5-7 last year”

I dunno man, I still don’t understand who in the world is like yes, I want to buy a $100,000 truck for Peyton fuckin Thorne so he can maybe lead our team to one season of 8-4. I can understand why there are people that want to throw shit tons of money at Caleb Williams. But is this really going to be sustainable in the long term for players that don’t deliver elite results?

The answer is no Travis. But if they don’t make changes it will become, just like America, an Oligarchy of football. The rich programs with oligarchs for alumni whose only passion is football because they have everything else in life will dominate because they won’t care if a miss happens. They have fuck you money and probably have umbrellas made of the skin from an elephant penis.

Then there will be schools like MSU that might gather up enough money to grab a guy here or there, but if it’s a miss, those who give will put pressure on the staff and athletic department to make changes and it will be a mess.

Seems like the natural progression from capitalism to oligarchy. Then, once there the oligarchs are in charge it leaves the rest of us scrambling for what’s left and getting pissed at each other.

By the way, i Do t see a fix for this, other than if you don’t line it don’t watch. But that’s line asking crack heads not to smoke crack if they don’t like their addiction.

Sounds not that different than the way it has been for a long time now tbh.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-05-22, 09:57

Imagine the car they would've bought him had he gone 6-6 last year in East Lansing.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-05-22, 09:58

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
DWags wrote:

The answer is no Travis. But if they don’t make changes it will become, just like America, an Oligarchy of football. The rich programs with oligarchs for alumni whose only passion is football because they have everything else in life will dominate because they won’t care if a miss happens. They have fuck you money and probably have umbrellas made of the skin from an elephant penis.

Then there will be schools like MSU that might gather up enough money to grab a guy here or there, but if it’s a miss, those who give will put pressure on the staff and athletic department to make changes and it will be a mess.

Seems like the natural progression from capitalism to oligarchy. Then, once there the oligarchs are in charge it leaves the rest of us scrambling for what’s left and getting pissed at each other.

By the way, i Do t see a fix for this, other than if you don’t line it don’t watch. But that’s line asking crack heads not to smoke crack if they don’t like their addiction.

Sounds not that different than the way it has been for a long time now tbh.

It has become more public. The players will go to where their egos are stroked the most.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-05-22, 10:50

NigelUno wrote:Nice truck.

A Chevy and Crocs? If that is who he is, I take back every nice thing I said about PT.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-05-22, 10:54

Also, should that picture in the back be of Cam Newton rather than Gene Chizik? Newton won that title, Chizik was just a by-stander.

by **DWags** 2023-05-22, 11:22

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
DWags wrote:

The answer is no Travis. But if they don’t make changes it will become, just like America, an Oligarchy of football. The rich programs with oligarchs for alumni whose only passion is football because they have everything else in life will dominate because they won’t care if a miss happens. They have fuck you money and probably have umbrellas made of the skin from an elephant penis.

Then there will be schools like MSU that might gather up enough money to grab a guy here or there, but if it’s a miss, those who give will put pressure on the staff and athletic department to make changes and it will be a mess.

Seems like the natural progression from capitalism to oligarchy. Then, once there the oligarchs are in charge it leaves the rest of us scrambling for what’s left and getting pissed at each other.

By the way, i Do t see a fix for this, other than if you don’t line it don’t watch. But that’s line asking crack heads not to smoke crack if they don’t like their addiction.

Sounds not that different than the way it has been for a long time now tbh.

The more things change…..

by **Turtleneck** 2023-05-22, 11:37

DWags wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Sounds not that different than the way it has been for a long time now tbh.

The more things change…..

Are you going to finish your sentence?

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by **Nordic** 2023-05-22, 11:47

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I can hear the negative recruiting now “they were 5-7 last year”

I dunno man, I still don’t understand who in the world is like yes, I want to buy a $100,000 truck for Peyton fuckin Thorne so he can maybe lead our team to one season of 8-4. I can understand why there are people that want to throw shit tons of money at Caleb Williams. But is this really going to be sustainable in the long term for players that don’t deliver elite results?

I doubt that truck is technically his. Probably a 2-year lease.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2023-05-22, 12:02

Nordic wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I can hear the negative recruiting now “they were 5-7 last year”

I dunno man, I still don’t understand who in the world is like yes, I want to buy a $100,000 truck for Peyton fuckin Thorne so he can maybe lead our team to one season of 8-4. I can understand why there are people that want to throw shit tons of money at Caleb Williams. But is this really going to be sustainable in the long term for players that don’t deliver elite results?

I doubt that truck is technically his. Probably a 2-year lease.

And what the fuck is he hauling anyway? Shoulder pads? You can fit those in a Nissan Altima

by **NigelUno** 2023-05-22, 12:08

Nordic wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I can hear the negative recruiting now “they were 5-7 last year”

I dunno man, I still don’t understand who in the world is like yes, I want to buy a $100,000 truck for Peyton fuckin Thorne so he can maybe lead our team to one season of 8-4. I can understand why there are people that want to throw shit tons of money at Caleb Williams. But is this really going to be sustainable in the long term for players that don’t deliver elite results?

I doubt that truck is technically his. Probably a 2-year lease.

Yeah. I don't think he "bought" it.

He may have had a similar arrangement at MSU with a dealership. I think a few players had/have car deals.

by **NigelUno** 2023-05-22, 12:15

DWags wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I can hear the negative recruiting now “they were 5-7 last year”

I dunno man, I still don’t understand who in the world is like yes, I want to buy a $100,000 truck for Peyton fuckin Thorne so he can maybe lead our team to one season of 8-4. I can understand why there are people that want to throw shit tons of money at Caleb Williams. But is this really going to be sustainable in the long term for players that don’t deliver elite results?

The answer is no Travis. But if they don’t make changes it will become, just like America, an Oligarchy of football. The rich programs with oligarchs for alumni whose only passion is football because they have everything else in life will dominate because they won’t care if a miss happens. They have fuck you money and probably have umbrellas made of the skin from an elephant penis.

Then there will be schools like MSU that might gather up enough money to grab a guy here or there, but if it’s a miss, those who give will put pressure on the staff and athletic department to make changes and it will be a mess.

Seems like the natural progression from capitalism to oligarchy. Then, once there. the oligarchs are in charge and it leaves the rest of us scrambling for what’s left and getting pissed at each other.

By the way, i Don’ t see a fix for this, other than if you don’t like it don’t watch. But that’s like asking crack heads not to smoke crack if they don’t like their addiction.

I think we've talked about this before, but there's really no way to go back. The only equitable solution would be if college athletes became employees as part of a players association/union, and a salary cap was somehow put in place. But, you'd still have the problem of outside income (NIL deals).

If Coaches/University Presidents ever thought there was a problem, the only way to somewhat "fix" it, would be to reinstate the one year sit out rule (as some sort of educational initiative). Then players would think a little more about transferring, and rich guys may rethink paying players who have to sit out a year.

by AvgMSUJoe 2023-05-22, 14:03

Why would any businessman work his salt give this shit away to these kids? How many more cars would Keon Coleman sell at Feldman if he posed for a cool pic or something? (ANSWER: NONE)

This is just a scam to see how much money rich guys want to give away so they feel better on Saturday nights during the fall. (stupid and pointless and in no way a financial benefit to anyone except the kid)

by AvgMSUJoe 2023-05-22, 14:07

ALSO, Since Thorne decided to bolt, why doesn't hopcat sue him for breach of contract since he was under contract for the Payton Thorne burger...?

Seems like UWM's lawyers could persuade the kids to stick around for 4 years, OR at least re-coup the money spent so they can re-allocate it to a more worthy Spartan.

Make Auburn pay for the next QB.

by **DWags** 2023-05-22, 14:15

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Why would any businessman work his salt give this shit away to these kids? How many more cars would Keon Coleman sell at Feldman if he posed for a cool pic or something? (ANSWER: NONE)

This is just a scam to see how much money rich guys want to give away so they feel better on Saturday nights during the fall. (stupid and pointless and in no way a financial benefit to anyone except the kid)

Because they want to be a part of the Jazz. In a very brief time I coached football camps for Perles Saban and Bobby, the coaches would take you out Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday, and spend money on your drinks. I was shocked at how many rich white guys wanted to come into the party rooms just the glad hand those guys. It’s like they were rock stars. And they were just dumb ass football coaches, regular guys like you and me

It’s always going to be like that especially if you’re a winning program. People just want to be a part of the jazz it’s really weird. Merica.

by **NigelUno** 2023-05-22, 15:08

AvgMSUJoe wrote:ALSO, Since Thorne decided to bolt, why doesn't hopcat sue him for breach of contract since he was under contract for the Payton Thorne burger...?

Seems like UWM's lawyers could persuade the kids to stick around for 4 years, OR at least re-coup the money spent so they can re-allocate it to a more worthy Spartan.

Make Auburn pay for the next QB.

I'm guessing a standard NIL contract would include a provision regarding enrollment.

by **Nordic** 2023-05-22, 15:28

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Nordic wrote:

I doubt that truck is technically his. Probably a 2-year lease.

And what the fuck is he hauling anyway? Shoulder pads? You can fit those in a Nissan Altima

Altimas and mullets don't go hand and hand.

by **Nordic** 2023-05-22, 15:31

NigelUno wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:ALSO, Since Thorne decided to bolt, why doesn't hopcat sue him for breach of contract since he was under contract for the Payton Thorne burger...?

Seems like UWM's lawyers could persuade the kids to stick around for 4 years, OR at least re-coup the money spent so they can re-allocate it to a more worthy Spartan.

Make Auburn pay for the next QB.

I'm guessing a standard NIL contract would include a provision regarding enrollment.

Pretty sure that is not allowed. Any NIL deal can't be tied to enrollment or participation, from what I recall. So an NIL sponsor is at risk of a player bolting. I would assume they are yearly renewable deals.

by **NigelUno** 2023-05-22, 16:22

Nordic wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I'm guessing a standard NIL contract would include a provision regarding enrollment.

Pretty sure that is not allowed. Any NIL deal can't be tied to enrollment or participation, from what I recall. So an NIL sponsor is at risk of a player bolting. I would assume they are yearly renewable deals.

An NIL deal can't be based on a player enrolling at a school. I would imagine funds that Ishbia (for example) gives out monthly or weekly (or per semester...however they do it) are contingent on an athlete actually being in school. Maybe renewable on a monthly basis or something.

(Looked up Ishbia's deal)

Michigan State football and men's basketball players will make a $500 monthly stipend from United Wholesale Mortgage.

Ishbia announced the program will sponsor MSU football and men's basketball players and will pay them $500 per month during the duration of their playing career at Michigan State in exchange for the athletes promoting UWM on their social media pages and getting the word out about home-lending options.

by AvgMSUJoe 2023-05-22, 16:30

If a ceo can be bound by a non compete clause... does it take one school to successfully enforce one then BAM, they all do for NIL?

Jordan couldn't just jump to Adidas whenever he wanted...

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