Re: Can we talk about the athleticism of Thorne?

by **duffy munn** 10/13/2023, 5:10 pm

StylesGShmooth wrote:Do some people actually think that Thorne, who has averaged roughly 65 yards/game against power 5 competition, would be making a difference here this season?

I don't Joe Montana would make difference

by **NigelUno** 10/13/2023, 5:15 pm

Nordic wrote:
StylesGShmooth wrote:Do some people actually think that Thorne, who has averaged roughly 65 yards/game against power 5 competition, would be making a difference here this season?

Maybe we can get him back after hits the transfer portal again

Wouldn't shock me (the portal part).

by **StylesGShmooth** 10/14/2023, 3:41 pm

Nordic wrote:
StylesGShmooth wrote:Do some people actually think that Thorne, who has averaged roughly 65 yards/game against power 5 competition, would be making a difference here this season?

Maybe we can get him back after hits the transfer portal again

Well, if he transfers here to coach special teams it will probably be an upgrade.

by **Trapper Gus** 10/18/2023, 1:43 pm

Thorne had the right idea, he looked good when the team didn't rely just on the QB for offense. However he jumped from the frying pan to the fire.

by **DWags** 10/18/2023, 2:28 pm

StylesGShmooth wrote:Do some people actually think that Thorne, who has averaged roughly 65 yards/game against power 5 competition, would be making a difference here this season?

Are you asking if we upgrade a position whether it would make a difference? Sure it would. Are you asking if it would make us a top 25 team or a top 5 team in the conference? Of course it wouldn’t.

But if you were a coach who was given a choice between having a left tackle grade out at a 4 or one that grades out at a 6. I’d say most coaches would prefer the up grade.

At this point with us, it’s probably best we aren’t 3-3 or even 4-2. Just get the other guys experience and hope the game slows down for them.

by **NigelUno** 11/18/2023, 9:11 pm

New Mexico State 31 - Auburn 10

Bama up next!

by **DWags** 11/18/2023, 9:32 pm

NigelUno wrote:New Mexico State 31 - Auburn 10

Bama up next!

I’ll double down. I still think we’d be at or near bowl eligible with him. In a season that means nothing, it would be great if a new coach had 15 practices with his new team.

by **NigelUno** 11/18/2023, 10:02 pm

DWags wrote:
NigelUno wrote:New Mexico State 31 - Auburn 10

Bama up next!

I’ll double down. I still think we’d be at or near bowl eligible with him. In a season that means nothing, it would be great if a new coach had 15 practices with his new team.

Possible. I wish we were bowl eligible for sure. Would help with evaluation and give some momentum for next year.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 11/18/2023, 10:15 pm

On the other hand we’d be starting out 0-0 next year just the same but with a quarterback that hasn’t seen a live defense since high school 3 years ago.

by **NigelUno** 11/18/2023, 10:17 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:On the other hand we’d be starting out 0-0 next year just the same but with a quarterback that hasn’t seen a live defense since high school 3 years ago.

There's no guarantee any of the QBs stick around.

Or that we don't grab a QB from the portal.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 11/18/2023, 10:19 pm

NigelUno wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:On the other hand we’d be starting out 0-0 next year just the same but with a quarterback that hasn’t seen a live defense since high school 3 years ago.

There's no guarantee any of the QBs stick around.

Or that we don't grab a QB from the portal.

Sure, yeah that’s true. But they certainly could be, while Thorne won’t.

by **NigelUno** 11/18/2023, 10:28 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

There's no guarantee any of the QBs stick around.

Or that we don't grab a QB from the portal.
Sure, yeah that’s true. But they certainly could be, while Thorne won’t.

I haven't seen anything that gives me great confidence in any of the QBs that have played this year.

by AvgMSUJoe 11/18/2023, 10:29 pm

Thorne, coleman and Bernard... this team is 8-9 wins.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 11/18/2023, 10:53 pm

NigelUno wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Sure, yeah that’s true. But they certainly could be, while Thorne won’t.

I haven't seen anything that gives me great confidence in any of the QBs that have played this year.

Yeah, that’s how it goes with first time starters virtually everytime. That’s why their experiences this season will be quite the boon next season, if they stay.

by **DWags** 11/18/2023, 10:58 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

There's no guarantee any of the QBs stick around.

Or that we don't grab a QB from the portal.
Sure, yeah that’s true. But they certainly could be, while Thorne won’t.

15 practices. Please consider that.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 11/18/2023, 11:05 pm

DWags wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Sure, yeah that’s true. But they certainly could be, while Thorne won’t.

15 practices. Please consider that.

I considered it, I’m good.

You know we didn’t make a bowl last year with throne plus 2 nfl receivers, right? I know it’s easy to say “oh yeah we totally would have if he stayed” but…

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I know that our young guys got invaluable experience. You can’t know for sure that those practices (under an outgoing staff) would have happened.

by **DWags** 11/18/2023, 11:06 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
DWags wrote:

15 practices. Please consider that.
I considered it, I’m good.

You know we didn’t make a bowl last year with throne plus 2 nfl receivers, right? I know it’s easy to say “oh yeah we totally would have if he stayed” but…

I know that our young guys got invaluable experience. You can’t know for sure that those practices (under an outgoing staff) would have happened.

Incoming.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 11/18/2023, 11:22 pm

DWags wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
I considered it, I’m good.

You know we didn’t make a bowl last year with throne plus 2 nfl receivers, right? I know it’s easy to say “oh yeah we totally would have if he stayed” but…

I know that our young guys got invaluable experience. You can’t know for sure that those practices (under an outgoing staff) would have happened.

Incoming.

Unlike a Payton Thorne pass at his time at auburn amirite?

I mean I’m not even touching on him not being very good in any game where he doesn’t have Kenneth walker behind him. I just don’t understand your belief in the guy. I think we’d be 4-7 if he stayed. In fact, I don’t think he makes some of the throws that hauser made today and we’d actually be 3-8.

by **Heat Miser** 11/18/2023, 11:44 pm

Are we still pining over what might have been? Really? Why? It's irrelevant.

And BTW...why aren't we pining over Keon? The one guy who would've given opposing D's something to think about regardless of whichever mediocre QB was throwing the ball

by **tGreenWay** 11/19/2023, 4:49 am

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Thorne, coleman and Bernard... this team is 8-9 wins.

Germie had one punt return and one pass thrown his way Saturday vs. Oregon St. Whereas, he’d’ve been a busy bee in Bloomington. Seems like a waste, but if his heart was at UW, there’s not much we could’ve done, though I’m sure winning more games would’ve helped considerably.

by **NigelUno** 11/19/2023, 8:21 am

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
DWags wrote:

15 practices. Please consider that.
I considered it, I’m good.

You know we didn’t make a bowl last year with throne plus 2 nfl receivers, right? I know it’s easy to say “oh yeah we totally would have if he stayed” but…

I know that our young guys got invaluable experience. You can’t know for sure that those practices (under an outgoing staff) would have happened.

I'd guess any QB around next year will be learning a new offense. Not sure how much of an advantage that will give anyone on this year's team.

by **DWags** 11/19/2023, 9:30 am

NigelUno wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
I considered it, I’m good.

You know we didn’t make a bowl last year with throne plus 2 nfl receivers, right? I know it’s easy to say “oh yeah we totally would have if he stayed” but…

I know that our young guys got invaluable experience. You can’t know for sure that those practices (under an outgoing staff) would have happened.

I'd guess any QB around next year will be learning a new offense. Not sure how much of an advantage that will give anyone on this year's team.

Extra practice helps. Rules are messed up. You penalize bad teams for being bad.

by **Trapper Gus** 11/19/2023, 9:43 am

NigelUno wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
I considered it, I’m good.

You know we didn’t make a bowl last year with throne plus 2 nfl receivers, right? I know it’s easy to say “oh yeah we totally would have if he stayed” but…

I know that our young guys got invaluable experience. You can’t know for sure that those practices (under an outgoing staff) would have happened.

I'd guess any QB around next year will be learning a new offense. Not sure how much of an advantage that will give anyone on this year's team.

Players learn how fast the college game is?

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 11/19/2023, 10:13 am

I’m trying to be nice to Thorne here but guys. Do you really think that 2023 Thorne makes that game winning throw to carr yesterday? Tight window, on the move… best case scenario is an incompletion. I think though that we’re looking at a sack or interception there. I just can’t accept the jumping straight to “we’d have extra practices” while ignoring that he couldn’t get us extra practices last year with 2 nfl wide receivers and an actual head coach who didn’t leave after 2 weeks. I mean, didn’t we lose to Indiana at home? Why are we just assuming the results would be any different?

by **NigelUno** 11/19/2023, 11:15 am

Having an experienced QB will help in 2024, but it would not have helped this year.

Got it.

by **DWags** 11/19/2023, 12:03 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I’m trying to be nice to Thorne here but guys. Do you really think that 2023 Thorne makes that game winning throw to carr yesterday? Tight window, on the move… best case scenario is an incompletion. I think though that we’re looking at a sack or interception there. I just can’t accept the jumping straight to “we’d have extra practices” while ignoring that he couldn’t get us extra practices last year with 2 nfl wide receivers and an actual head coach who didn’t leave after 2 weeks. I mean, didn’t we lose to Indiana at home? Why are we just assuming the results would be any different?

Jesus.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 11/19/2023, 12:07 pm

DWags wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I’m trying to be nice to Thorne here but guys. Do you really think that 2023 Thorne makes that game winning throw to carr yesterday? Tight window, on the move… best case scenario is an incompletion. I think though that we’re looking at a sack or interception there. I just can’t accept the jumping straight to “we’d have extra practices” while ignoring that he couldn’t get us extra practices last year with 2 nfl wide receivers and an actual head coach who didn’t leave after 2 weeks. I mean, didn’t we lose to Indiana at home? Why are we just assuming the results would be any different?

Jesus.

by **DWags** 11/19/2023, 12:07 pm

NigelUno wrote:Having an experienced QB will help in 2024, but it would not have helped this year.

Got it.

Yep. I just can’t anymore. by the way, when Thorne landed those dimes to Nailor a d Reed in 2021 ,when he wasn’t injured, on 4th and 1’s against Michigan I decided there and then he’d never buy a beer if we were in the same bar.

Can these two become better than him? Absolutely. Were they this year? FFS, come on.

by **NigelUno** 11/19/2023, 12:37 pm

DWags wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Having an experienced QB will help in 2024, but it would not have helped this year.

Got it.

Yep. I just can’t anymore. by the way, when Thorne landed those dimes to Nailor a d Reed in 2021 ,when he wasn’t injured, on 4th and 1’s against Michigan I decided there and then he’d never buy a beer if we were in the same bar.

Can these two become better than him? Absolutely. Were they this year? FFS, come on.

Team DWags

by **Floyd Robertson** 11/25/2023, 5:58 pm

Thorne 21 Saban 20 right now

by **Floyd Robertson** 11/25/2023, 6:19 pm

QB draw, Thorne for 22, last few yards like a drunken sailor.

by **DWags** 11/25/2023, 6:22 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:Thorne 21 Saban 20 right now

Thorne has 67 rushing yards and just dropped a TD dime the receiver dropped.

Auburn 24 Bama 20.

by **NigelUno** 11/25/2023, 6:29 pm

Auburn beats Bama
Bama beats Georgia

Chaos

by **DWags** 11/25/2023, 6:36 pm

NigelUno wrote:Auburn beats Bama
Bama beats Georgia

Chaos

We’d be 6-6 with Thorne and Smith would have 15 practices with this squad.

by **kingstonlake** 11/25/2023, 6:42 pm

Oh no war eagle lol

by **Floyd Robertson** 11/25/2023, 6:43 pm

About as costly a punt reception muff as you can have lol

by **Turtleneck** 11/25/2023, 6:50 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
DWags wrote:

I agree about the Heisman, but Thornes dime to Reed on 4th and one. Then following it up with a 2 pointer to Moseley weren’t flukes. He’s a good qb.

No doubt, DWags. Definitely a good QB.

I take this back. Thorne sucks.

by **DWags** 11/25/2023, 7:15 pm

Heart breaker. Good on Thorne. What a player. Balls to the wall. You compete. He did. What more can you ask for. Great game.

by **GRR Spartan** 11/25/2023, 7:30 pm

Thorne didn’t want to play for Tucker and the OC and Auburn gave him an opportunity.

Today Auburn’s offense played its best, most complete game of their season but the defense couldn’t stop a very long 4th and goal after Alabama dug themselves a deep hole.

I refuse to play the “what if” scenarios. Hope players who choose to leave think they made the right choice after their 12th game. But they don’t play for MSU anymore. They chose to leave.

It’s a new era in FBS football with players currently free agents after every season.

by **Turtleneck** 11/25/2023, 7:55 pm

DWags wrote:Heart breaker. Good on Thorne. What a player. Balls to the wall. You compete. He did. What more can you ask for. Great game.

I think it is fair to ask for more than this stat line:

5/16, 91 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs.

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