Elon Musk and Twitter

NigelUno wrote:

RQA wrote:

Who gave Musk billions of dollars?

Elon Musk is speaking out against government subsidies. Here's a list of the billions of dollars his businesses have received.

The knuckle draggers simple answer is: we’re going to use the rules as they are.

What they leave out is, now that we got ours. I don’t want anybody else getting help from the government. Funny thing is the dumbasses who follow them off the cliff, who are hurt the most by using their tax dollars to help the rich, will agree with this philosophy. They will tell you that guys like him and Trump who fucked around with his taxes, “ are only using the rules against our government, so there really smart”

DWags wrote:

NigelUno wrote:



Elon Musk is speaking out against government subsidies. Here's a list of the billions of dollars his businesses have received.

The knuckle draggers simple answer is: we’re going to use the rules as they are.

What they leave out is, now that we got ours. I don’t want anybody else getting help from the government. Funny thing is the dumbasses who follow them off the cliff, who are hurt the most by using their tax dollars to help the rich, will agree with this philosophy. They will tell you that guys like him and Trump who fucked around with his taxes, “ are only using the rules against our government, so there really smart”

With all the tax breaks the ultra-wealthy get, and a number of them pay little to no taxes via various legal loopholes, how come they are all hung up on complaining about taxes and government?

They are the ones who benefit the most from taxes and government.

Musk proven to be an idiot as a CEO, but not a lawbreaker.

Musk found not guilty

Fuck this guy.

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DWags wrote: They will tell you that guys like him and Trump who fucked around with his taxes, “ are only using the rules against our government, so there really smart”

Are you aware that the rich pay most of the taxes? In 2020, the bottom half of taxpayers earned 10.2 percent of total AGI and paid 2.3 percent of all federal individual income taxes. The top 1 percent earned 22.2 percent of total AGI and paid 42.3 percent of all federal income taxes.

Liberals love to complain about Trump and his taxes but never tell us how much tax he has paid in the last 20 years. By the degree of liberal outrage you would think it was zero.

RQA wrote:

DWags wrote: They will tell you that guys like him and Trump who fucked around with his taxes, “ are only using the rules against our government, so there really smart”

Are you aware that the rich pay most of the taxes? In 2020, the bottom half of taxpayers earned 10.2 percent of total AGI and paid 2.3 percent of all federal individual income taxes. The top 1 percent earned 22.2 percent of total AGI and paid 42.3 percent of all federal income taxes.

Liberals love to complain about Trump and his taxes but never tell us how much tax he has paid in the last 20 years. By the degree of liberal outrage you would think it was zero.

Prove to me income disparity is out of control without saying income disparity is out of control.

Talk about shooting the messenger

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Trapper Gus wrote:

I’ve always been told that people vote their pocketbook. I think there’s something more powerful. When people know they can elect a racist that’s full of hate that will keep a minority down, I think they don’t care if they’re getting screwed by the 1% because at least the minorities are getting thumped by the racist that they elect.

DWags wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

I’ve always been told that people vote their pocketbook. I think there’s something more powerful. When people know they can elect a racist that’s full of hate that will keep a minority down, I think they don’t care if they’re getting screwed by the 1% because at least the minorities are getting thumped by the racist that they elect.

They’ll never be on top so they elect those that’ll keep them above those that never stood a chance,

Motown Spartan wrote:

DWags wrote:

I’ve always been told that people vote their pocketbook. I think there’s something more powerful. When people know they can elect a racist that’s full of hate that will keep a minority down, I think they don’t care if they’re getting screwed by the 1% because at least the minorities are getting thumped by the racist that they elect.

They’ll never be on top so they elect those that’ll keep them above those that never stood a chance,

You said it better than I did. But yeah, hate trumps money in their lives.

Musk on Twitter: Twitter was politicized and didn't let people do whatever they wanted with this incredible communications technology; it was politically motivated to limit users who didn't agree with the leadership's personal values.

Also Musk: We need to limit how Ukraine uses our Starlink communications technology because I'm not too fond of their politics and don't like their values.

RQA wrote:

DWags wrote: They will tell you that guys like him and Trump who fucked around with his taxes, “ are only using the rules against our government, so there really smart”

Are you aware that the rich pay most of the taxes?  In 2020, the bottom half of taxpayers earned 10.2 percent of total AGI and paid 2.3 percent of all federal individual income taxes. The top 1 percent earned 22.2 percent of total AGI and paid 42.3 percent of all federal income taxes.

Liberals love to complain about Trump and his taxes but never tell us how much tax he has paid in the last 20 years.  By the degree of liberal outrage you would think it was zero.

Lol.
you have zero idea how stupid you sound, do you?

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

RQA wrote:

Are you aware that the rich pay most of the taxes?  In 2020, the bottom half of taxpayers earned 10.2 percent of total AGI and paid 2.3 percent of all federal individual income taxes. The top 1 percent earned 22.2 percent of total AGI and paid 42.3 percent of all federal income taxes.

Liberals love to complain about Trump and his taxes but never tell us how much tax he has paid in the last 20 years.  By the degree of liberal outrage you would think it was zero.

Lol.
you have zero idea how stupid you sound, do you?

Not exactly the best choice of a "wealthy person" as an example to argue about taxes.

In 2016 and 2017, Trump paid just $750 in federal income taxes, according to the Times. In 10 of the previous 15 years, Trump paid no federal income taxes at all. Despite reporting hundreds of millions of dollars in income, Trump effectively erased his tax bill by reporting heavy losses across his business interests.

https://en.as.com/en/2020/09/28/latest_news/1601276906_752792.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/21/trump-income-tax-returns-detailed-in-new-report-.html

https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-technology-politics-european-union-europe-d809f720d69daa4501609f9ea0cbc946

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
you have zero idea how stupid you sound, do you?

I am well aware that facts sound stupid to liberals.

DWags wrote:

I’ve always been told that people vote their pocketbook.

It would appear that they do. People have voted for a government that taxes the lower 50% of wage earners far less than the top 1%. Again the lower 1/2 make 10% of the money and pay 2% of the taxes while the top 1% make 22% of the money and pay 42% of the taxes.

RQA wrote:

DWags wrote:

I’ve always been told that people vote their pocketbook.

It would appear that they do. People have voted for a government that taxes the lower 50% of wage earners far less than the top 1%. Again the lower 1/2 make 10% of the money and pay 2% of the taxes while the top 1% make 22% of the money and pay 42% of the taxes.

You do understand the difference between a billion and a thousand, right?

RQA wrote:

DWags wrote:

I’ve always been told that people vote their pocketbook.    

It would appear that they do.  People have voted for a government that taxes the lower 50% of wage earners far less than the top 1%.   Again the lower 1/2 make 10% of the money and pay 2% of the taxes while the top 1% make 22% of the money and pay 42% of the taxes.

It is odd that you never provide links to back up what you post.

This data is pretty dated, admittedly, however, with the Trump Tax cuts it just means the top of the heap pays less.





https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/power/wealth.html

Trapper Gus wrote:In 2016 and 2017, Trump paid just $750 in federal income taxes, according to the Times. In 10 of the previous 15 years, Trump paid no federal income taxes at all

Do you blame Trump for this?

RQA wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:In 2016 and 2017, Trump paid just $750 in federal income taxes, according to the Times. In 10 of the previous 15 years, Trump paid no federal income taxes at all

Do you blame Trump for this?

He could have fixed the federal tax system when he was President so that the highest income earners, not the 1% which is way too broad a grouping, which hides what people like Trump pay, but the 0.01%, pay at least the same precentage in taxes as their income, but he didn't.  So yes, he gets the blame for lowing his own taxes.







https://itep.org/who-pays-taxes-in-america-in-2020/

In 2021 when White House economists wanted to provide information on taxes paid by the rich to inform the debate over President Biden’s revenue proposals, they had to rely on estimates based on multiple sources. Their findings were still shocking. They estimated that the average federal income tax rate of the 400 highest-earning Americans was just 8.2 percent between 2010 and 2018.

Top 400 Taxpayers Federal Taxes

https://www.irs.gov/statistics/soi-tax-stats-top-400-individual-income-tax-returns-with-the-largest-adjusted-gross-incomes

https://projects.propublica.org/americas-highest-incomes-and-taxes-revealed/#table-jump-link

Trapper Gus wrote:

the highest income earners, not the 1% which is way too broad a grouping, which hides what people like Trump pay, but the 0.01%,

Since I successfully proved that rich people pay the vast majority of federal income tax, Trapper moves the goalposts from the usual "1%" to the "0.01%"

RQA wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

the highest income earners, not the 1% which is way too broad a grouping, which hides what people like Trump pay, but the 0.01%,

Since I successfully proved that rich people pay the vast majority of federal income tax, Trapper moves the goalposts from the usual "1%" to the "0.01%"

Sure, in raw dollars they do. They need to pay more. So what?

RQA wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

the highest income earners, not the 1% which is way too broad a grouping, which hides what people like Trump pay, but the 0.01%,

Since I successfully proved that rich people pay the vast majority of federal income tax, Trapper moves the goalposts from the usual "1%" to the "0.01%"

42 percent is not the "vast majority," you buffoon.

Cameron wrote:

42 percent is not the "vast majority," you buffoon.

I said the rich pay the vast majority of federal income taxes. I also said that the top 1% pay 42% of the federal income tax.

Do you consider only the top 1% to be rich?

does anyone have a percentage of their income that the Rich/Midclass/lower socio economic classes pay?

That interests me the most.

Of course we can play games with numbers, but I'm interested in percentages.

Thanks if anyone does.

RQA wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

the highest income earners, not the 1% which is way too broad a grouping, which hides what people like Trump pay, but the 0.01%,

Since I successfully proved that rich people pay the vast majority of federal income tax,  Trapper moves the goalposts from the usual "1%" to the "0.01%"    

Keep ignoring that for the top quintile, compared to their percentage of the national income they pay about the same percentage of national taxes.

It makes you look pretty stupid.

Also, a tax code that allows the people at the top to pay less taxes as a percentage of their income seems fair to you?

DWags wrote:does anyone have a percentage of their income that the Rich/Midclass/lower socio economic classes pay?

That interests me the most.

Of course we can play games with numbers, but I'm interested in percentages.

Thanks if anyone does.

Some of the charts I posted show that, need a computer, not a phone.

This fucking guy...

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What a snowflake

Cameron wrote:This fucking guy...

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it's almost like rich, whiny, insecure white guys are a problem.

RQA wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

the highest income earners, not the 1% which is way too broad a grouping, which hides what people like Trump pay, but the 0.01%,

Since I successfully proved that rich people pay the vast majority of federal income tax, Trapper moves the goalposts from the usual "1%" to the "0.01%"

Trump paid federal taxes some years!!! - rQa

Twitter is dying, move to Spoutible. It's a  bit of a left-wing echo chamber right now, but no Russian troll bots or insecure owners.

Maybe dying is too strong.

What comes first, narcissism or the billions?

Turtleneck wrote:What comes first, narcissism or the billions?

Narcissism.

The power of having money creates a feedback loop that amplifies it.

For the engineers, it is a unstable second order oscillation.

I don’t get what he’s thinking. He’s like that bitch in high school movies nobody likes but she cons her way on to the homecoming committee. When votes are counted, she only gets 3 but stuffs the ballot boxes and “wins” the election. So, now she’s queen, but everyone still hates the bitch. Add a slasher and ten dead teenagers and it’s that movie that’s been made 1000 times.

He is the son in a wealthy family, in South Africa and appears to exibit all the negative sterotypes of white wealthy South Africans & of weathy scions.

Total belief that he is "better" than everyone else because he is the "Dagny Tagget / John Galt" in todays world. Totally unaware that his family money created his life.

Nice.

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