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Post by PennSpartan Wed 22 Jun 2022 - 13:50

kingstonlake wrote:Old Boomer clutching his student loan pearls. Lol. 

Was there a bill that progressives successfully stopped from being sent to the senate? I’m asking because I don’t know the answer. 

Either way I don’t think you have anything to worry about. Moderates (since they determine every election) will recognize the great policies this administration have enacted to help the middle class and democrats will hold the house and gain a substantial amount of senate seats. Right?
Progressives held up the infrastructure bill for months, trying to get their version of BBB passed first. It backfired and they never got it passed. If Dems lose either house I’ll bet is because Progressives won’t vote, like 2016. Old boomers like me vote reliably.
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Post by kingstonlake Wed 22 Jun 2022 - 14:38

That’s not what you said. You said independents and moderates determine every election because they are the majority.

And for the record progressives were worried Joe Manchin would be a a traitor to his party. And they were right. That’s why they wanted the social stuff included in the infrastructure bill. They know a moderate rat when they see one.

And demanding that your douche bag moderate colleague act in good faith isn’t holding up a bill. It’s holding the douche bag accountable.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed 22 Jun 2022 - 15:09

by the way, Joe Biden is still crushing it. Joe Biden is crushing it.  969504605

pro tip: life is exponentially better if you don't allow the mainstream media to tell you to blame your problems on the government.

It's okay to just enjoy your life. Joe Biden is crushing it.  3493939353
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Post by PennSpartan Wed 22 Jun 2022 - 20:19

kingstonlake wrote:That’s not what you said. You said independents and moderates determine every election because they are the majority.

And for the record progressives were worried Joe Manchin would be a a traitor to his party. And they were right. That’s why they wanted the social stuff included in the infrastructure bill. They know a moderate rat when they see one.

And demanding that your douche bag moderate colleague act in good faith isn’t holding up a bill. It’s holding the douche bag accountable.
Moderates and Independents do determine the elections. It’s the reason Progressives have attached themselves to the Democratic Party instead of going it alone. They need our votes and our money. Progressives certainly aren’t going to be paying for Progressive programs. Joe Biden has signed every bill sent to him. Figure out a way to get every Dem on board and you can have your social programs.
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Post by RQA Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 9:36

Robert J Sakimano wrote:while I agree that Democrats sometimes can't get out of their own way, they are running against a party of white nationalists whose stated agenda is to end democracy.

but, yes, let's allow the mainstream media keep telling their knuckle-scrapin', low-information sheep how bad their lives are because gas is $5.00/gallon for their truck that gets 8 mpg.


Fact check:   The stated agenda of the Republican part is not  "to end democracy"

Fact check:   The EPA est fuel mileage of a 2022 Chevy Silverado is 23/31.
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 9:56

PennSpartan wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:That’s not what you said. You said independents and moderates determine every election because they are the majority.

And for the record progressives were worried Joe Manchin would be a a traitor to his party. And they were right. That’s why they wanted the social stuff included in the infrastructure bill. They know a moderate rat when they see one.

And demanding that your douche bag moderate colleague act in good faith isn’t holding up a bill. It’s holding the douche bag accountable.

Moderates and Independents do determine the elections. It’s the reason Progressives have attached themselves to the Democratic Party instead of going it alone. They need our votes and our money. Progressives certainly aren’t going to be paying for Progressive programs. Joe Biden has signed every bill sent to him. Figure out a way to get every Dem on board and you can have your social programs.

Progressives do determine the elections. It’s the reason Moderates and Independents have attached themselves to the Democratic Party instead of going it alone. They need our votes and our money. Moderates and Independents certainly aren’t going to be paying for Moderates and Independents programs. Joe Biden has signed every bill sent to him. Figure out a way to get every Dem on board and you can have your Moderate and Independent programs.

Your statement works just fine this way too.

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Post by PennSpartan Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 11:08

Trapper Gus wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:

Moderates and Independents do determine the elections. It’s the reason Progressives have attached themselves to the Democratic Party instead of going it alone. They need our votes and our money. Progressives certainly aren’t going to be paying for Progressive programs. Joe Biden has signed every bill sent to him. Figure out a way to get every Dem on board and you can have your social programs.

Progressives do determine the elections. It’s the reason Moderates and Independents have attached themselves to the Democratic Party instead of going it alone. They need our votes and our money. Moderates and Independents certainly aren’t going to be paying for Moderates and Independents programs. Joe Biden has signed every bill sent to him. Figure out a way to get every Dem on board and you can have your Moderate and Independent programs.

Your statement works just fine this way too.

Except if Progressives had money they wouldn’t need mine to pay off their college loans. LOL
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 11:19

RQA wrote:
Fact check:   The stated agenda of the Republican part is not  "to end democracy"
??? Da fuq you say.
If you don't think this is real, you haven't been paying attention.
https://news.yahoo.com/texas-republicans-adopt-platform-falsely-195204219.html
Literally denying the election (democracy) was legitimate. Where else can you go with this?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 11:42

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
RQA wrote:
Fact check:   The stated agenda of the Republican part is not  "to end democracy"
??? Da fuq you say.
If you don't think this is real, you haven't been paying attention.
https://news.yahoo.com/texas-republicans-adopt-platform-falsely-195204219.html
Literally denying the election (democracy) was legitimate. Where else can you go with this?
you're not trying to have a conversation with a misogynistic white nationalist knuckle-scrapin' christian zealot who supports an end to democracy, are you?
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Post by PennSpartan Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 11:45

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
RQA wrote:
Fact check:   The stated agenda of the Republican part is not  "to end democracy"
??? Da fuq you say.
If you don't think this is real, you haven't been paying attention.
https://news.yahoo.com/texas-republicans-adopt-platform-falsely-195204219.html
Literally denying the election (democracy) was legitimate. Where else can you go with this?
The next time there is a disaster in Texas Biden needs to tell them he can’t send federal assistance since they don’t recognize him as President.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 17:03

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:
??? Da fuq you say.
If you don't think this is real, you haven't been paying attention.
https://news.yahoo.com/texas-republicans-adopt-platform-falsely-195204219.html
Literally denying the election (democracy) was legitimate. Where else can you go with this?
you're not trying to have a conversation with a misogynistic white nationalist knuckle-scrapin' christian zealot who supports an end to democracy, are you?
I feel shame.
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Post by RQA Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 22:15

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
??? Da fuq you say.
If you don't think this is real, you haven't been paying attention.
https://news.yahoo.com/texas-republicans-adopt-platform-falsely-195204219.html
Literally denying the election (democracy) was legitimate. Where else can you go with this?

Believing that there was election fraud (rightly or wrongly) does not equal favoring the end of democracy.

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Post by Pervis Muldoon Thu 23 Jun 2022 - 23:14

RQA wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:
??? Da fuq you say.
If you don't think this is real, you haven't been paying attention.
https://news.yahoo.com/texas-republicans-adopt-platform-falsely-195204219.html
Literally denying the election (democracy) was legitimate. Where else can you go with this?

Believing that there was election fraud (rightly or wrongly) does not equal favoring the end of democracy.


This is completely disingenuous. You remain the most dishonest poster on this board. They aren't saying they merely believe there was election fraud (rightly or wrongly), they said this: "We reject the certified results of the 2020 Presidential election, and we hold that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States."

Why not at least try to have a legitimate discussion? Grow some integrity.
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Post by RQA Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 0:14

Pervis Muldoon wrote:

This is completely disingenuous. You remain the most dishonest poster on this board.  They aren't saying they merely believe there was election fraud (rightly or wrongly), they said this: "We reject the certified results of the 2020 Presidential election, and we hold that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States."

Why not at least try to have a legitimate discussion?  Grow some integrity.  

The Texas Republican Party believing that Biden was not legitimately elected (the reason would be election fraud, right?) does not equate to being against democracy.

In fact it is just the opposite, is it not?  

Stacy Abrams continues to claim that she was the actual winner of the last Georgia gubanatorial election.    Does this mean that she is against democracy?

I guess by "legitimate discussion", "integrity: and "honesty" you mean:  Agree with me or I will attack you personally.    Not surprised as that has been your basic SOP.
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Post by InTenSity Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 0:22

Fuck the libs.  Amirite?
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Post by PennSpartan Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 9:50

RQA wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:
??? Da fuq you say.
If you don't think this is real, you haven't been paying attention.
https://news.yahoo.com/texas-republicans-adopt-platform-falsely-195204219.html
Literally denying the election (democracy) was legitimate. Where else can you go with this?

Believing that there was election fraud (rightly or wrongly) does not equal favoring the end of democracy.

Trump tried to overthrow the election. Literally wanted Pence to refuse to certify the electors and claim Trump as winner, violating the Constitution. He wanted the Justice Department to claim election fraud even though they found none. Trump does not believe in our Democracy as it was conceived by the founding fathers. And his supporters are complicit.
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Post by Pervis Muldoon Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 12:06

RQA wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:

This is completely disingenuous. You remain the most dishonest poster on this board.  They aren't saying they merely believe there was election fraud (rightly or wrongly), they said this: "We reject the certified results of the 2020 Presidential election, and we hold that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States."

Why not at least try to have a legitimate discussion?  Grow some integrity.  

The Texas Republican Party believing that Biden was not legitimately elected (the reason would be election fraud, right?) does not equate to being against democracy.

In fact it is just the opposite, is it not?  

Stacy Abrams continues to claim that she was the actual winner of the last Georgia gubanatorial election.    Does this mean that she is against democracy?

I guess by "legitimate discussion", "integrity: and "honesty" you mean:  Agree with me or I will attack you personally.    Not surprised as that has been your basic SOP.

Rejecting the certified results of the democratic process is the "just the opposite" of "being against democracy"?

Yeah, you're still the most dishonest poster on this board.
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Post by RQA Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 14:04

One of the better days of an otherwise dismal Biden presidency.

Dow up +600 today and looking like a good gain for the week.

Roe? Out.
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Post by PennSpartan Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 14:30

RQA wrote:One of the better days of an otherwise dismal Biden presidency.

Dow up +600 today and looking like a good gain for the week.

Roe? Out.
You forgot a few things:
-Covid hardly mentioned anymore
-America not in any war for first time in a generation
-Infrastructure bill cranking out road and bridge repairs
-unemployment at 3.6%
-Presidential golfing has been erased
-Republicans testifying against their own former President
Thanks Joe!
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Post by PennSpartan Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 14:45

On a personal note, the road that runs by my house got paved this week for the first time in 20 years. You’re the man, Joe! Joe Biden is crushing it.  1486952199
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 14:54

RQA wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:

This is completely disingenuous. You remain the most dishonest poster on this board.  They aren't saying they merely believe there was election fraud (rightly or wrongly), they said this: "We reject the certified results of the 2020 Presidential election, and we hold that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States."

Why not at least try to have a legitimate discussion?  Grow some integrity.  

The Texas Republican Party believing that Biden was not legitimately elected (the reason would be election fraud, right?) does not equate to being against democracy.

In fact it is just the opposite, is it not?  

Stacy Abrams continues to claim that she was the actual winner of the last Georgia gubanatorial election.    Does this mean that she is against democracy?

I guess by "legitimate discussion", "integrity: and "honesty" you mean:  Agree with me or I will attack you personally.    Not surprised as that has been your basic SOP.
That's directly out of putin's "pro-democracy" playbook.
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Post by Jake from State Farm Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 14:59

RQA wrote:One of the better days of an otherwise dismal Biden presidency.

Dow up +600 today and looking like a good gain for the week.

Roe?   Out.  

Protect the unborn, but as soon as they're outside of the womb they're fair game. Right?
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Post by PennSpartan Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 15:15

Jake from State Farm wrote:
RQA wrote:One of the better days of an otherwise dismal Biden presidency.

Dow up +600 today and looking like a good gain for the week.

Roe?   Out.  

Protect the unborn, but as soon as they're outside of the womb they're fair game. Right?
Thanks to 2A. The most important part of the Constitution according to right-to-life Republicans.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 15:30

Stacy Abrams accepts that Kemp is the elected governor of Georgia, if we are comparing her to the Republicians who are denying that Biben is the elected president of the US no more needs to be said.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 15:51

Dow is up +761.03.

Biden continues to crush it.
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Post by Rick Saunders Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 16:27

Joe Biden should find a more liberal compatriot within the party and propose that the democratic party move to ranked choice primary voting and explain that it would help identify more universally acceptable candidates representative of and responsible to all citizens. He should ask/invite the republican party to do the same and promote moving to ranked choice voting for all federal (and state) elections. Use this moment to show how our current system in these times is no longer serving the nation as a whole. This is not a way to have more democrats. This is a way to have a generally more trusted and responsible government.
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Post by RQA Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 17:03

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Protect the unborn, but as soon as they're outside of the womb they're fair game. Right?

Ah....no.

But thanks for repeating a tired old tripe.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 17:06

RQA wrote:
Jake from State Farm wrote:

Protect the unborn, but as soon as they're outside of the womb they're fair game. Right?

Ah....no.

But thanks for repeating a tired old tripe.  

So you are all in on the original BBB bill which would have put reasonable child care in place for the country?
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Post by PennSpartan Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 17:10

RQA wrote:
Jake from State Farm wrote:

Protect the unborn, but as soon as they're outside of the womb they're fair game. Right?

Ah....no.

But thanks for repeating a tired old tripe.
A tired old tripe like “Libs want to kill babies”?
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Post by Jake from State Farm Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 18:45

RQA wrote:
Jake from State Farm wrote:

Protect the unborn, but as soon as they're outside of the womb they're fair game. Right?

Ah....no.

But thanks for repeating a tired old tripe.

Nothing tired about it. It still rings true.
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Post by RQA Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 23:39

Trapper Gus wrote:
RQA wrote:

Ah....no.

But thanks for repeating a tired old tripe.  

So you are all in on the original BBB bill which would have put reasonable child care in place for the country?

Of course not.

But not backing the BBB does not equate to being anti-child.
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Post by RQA Fri 24 Jun 2022 - 23:39

PennSpartan wrote:
RQA wrote:

Ah....no.

But thanks for repeating a tired old tripe.
A tired old tripe like “Libs want to kill babies”?

Sadly that isn't a tired old tripe.
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Post by PennSpartan Sat 25 Jun 2022 - 6:09

RQA wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
A tired old tripe like “Libs want to kill babies”?

Sadly that isn't a tired old tripe.
Maybe you should have studied a little harder in 9th grade biology.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ Sat 25 Jun 2022 - 10:59

RQA wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
A tired old tripe like “Libs want to kill babies”?

Sadly that isn't a tired old tripe.

Rqa is not here to argue in good faith with anyone else. He knows he is a shit and continues to vomit shit.
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Post by RQA Sun 26 Jun 2022 - 0:23

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
RQA wrote:

Sadly that isn't a tired old tripe.

Rqa is not here to argue in good faith with anyone else. He knows he is a shit and continues to vomit shit.

Most of the time I am the ONLY one here arguing in good faith. You guys tell me stuff like pickup trucks get 8mpg, Dodge owns Jeep, Republican's cheered the death of schoolchildren and religious people don't care for children.
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Post by PennSpartan Sun 26 Jun 2022 - 7:03

RQA wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Rqa is not here to argue in good faith with anyone else. He knows he is a shit and continues to vomit shit.

Most of the time I am the ONLY one here arguing in good faith. You guys tell me stuff like pickup trucks get 8mpg, Dodge owns Jeep, Republican's cheered the death of schoolchildren and religious people don't care for children.
And you said Libs like to kill babies.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ Sun 26 Jun 2022 - 9:07

RQA wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Rqa is not here to argue in good faith with anyone else. He knows he is a shit and continues to vomit shit.

Most of the time I am the ONLY one here arguing in good faith. You guys tell me stuff like pickup trucks get 8mpg, Dodge owns Jeep, Republican's cheered the death of schoolchildren and religious people don't care for children.
That opinion is never ever going to be reflecting of reality when you tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies and tell us all that liberals like to kill babies.
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Post by RQA Sun 26 Jun 2022 - 11:05

PennSpartan wrote:
And you said Libs like to kill babies.

Let me apologize for that comment.

I should have said Libs are okay with babies being killed.
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Post by Cameron Sun 26 Jun 2022 - 11:07

Said the ONLY one arguing in good faith.

Self awareness is a motherfucker...
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Post by RQA Sun 26 Jun 2022 - 11:11

sεяεηιτλ wrote:women what they can and can't do with their bodies

This is not their body:

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