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Post by beal99 August 11th 2014, 3:26 pm

Rocinante wrote:

I agree with 1.  2 is not exactly right, but you're getting there.  I have no idea what you're saying with 3.  

Good effort though!

Really? Come out and say it Roc, WHITE PIGGIES GUNNING DOWN BLACK HONOR STUDENTS, right?
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Post by beal99 August 11th 2014, 3:27 pm

I don't care if the looters are black, white, red, yellow, green, purple, fuscia.

If you use something like this to go all lootee and get your free TV or some shit, you are subhuman filth and I hope the karma bus rolls over your face someday
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Post by Rocinante August 11th 2014, 3:30 pm

beal99 wrote:I don't care if the looters are black, white, red, yellow, green, purple, fuscia.

If you use something like this to go all lootee and get your free TV or some shit, you are subhuman filth and I hope the karma bus rolls over your face someday

Exactly. The actions of a few idiots after the fact should not figure one iota in the judgement of the killing.
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Post by beal99 August 11th 2014, 3:32 pm

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Exactly.  The actions of a few idiots after the fact should not figure one iota in the judgement of the killing.  

Isn't there a camera in the cop car? Was he in the cop car? Personally, I think all cops should have a camera on them, would cut down on a lot of crap, but if the kid went for his gun, what do you do, let him take it?
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Post by Rocinante August 11th 2014, 3:34 pm

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Isn't there a camera in the cop car? Was he in the cop car? Personally, I think all cops should have a camera on them, would cut down on a lot of crap, but if the kid went for his gun, what do you do, let him take it?

I don't know about where you live, but I'm constantly seeing random assholes getting into cop cars. It's a wonder it doesn't happen every day.  Neutral  Obviously the only solution is to shoot the kid 8 times. OAnd no, this particular police department has no cameras.
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Post by Stugots August 11th 2014, 3:34 pm

Welp, since this thread has turned all political and race related, I would just like to defend police officers by saying that they generally don't discriminate when killing and/or over-zealously beating unarmed people....Well actually, they do seem to have a "thing" for people with mental illnesses and the developmentally disabled. Check out the case of Kelly Thomas, who died in the hospital after being beaten to a pulp by police.

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Post by tTito August 11th 2014, 3:36 pm

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Exactly.  The actions of a few idiots after the fact should not figure one iota in the judgement of the killing.  

A few idiots? How about hundreds of idiots exploiting a tragedy for personal gain? And doing it under the guise of a civil rights movement to promote their people? And they think they get a pass because people should feel sorry for them because they are victims because someone they don't even know was killed trying to disarm a cop? Sets a real great example for the cause.
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Post by beal99 August 11th 2014, 3:37 pm

I'm in Chicago, we're about 2500 cops short of where we need to be (no money to hire), they've sent the majority of the force to deal with the south side leaving the north neighborhoods high and dry this summer and causing an escalation in robberies and assaults in places not well known for them.

Its a constant gang gun show on the S and W sides in town here nightly, I'm sure you've seen our weekend body counts. The mayor just called in 40 State Police just to handle arrests.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe August 11th 2014, 3:46 pm

beal99 wrote:I don't care if the looters are black, white, red, yellow, green, purple, fuscia.

If you use something like this to go all lootee and get your free TV or some shit, you are subhuman filth and I hope the karma bus rolls over your face someday

Agree
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Post by tTito August 11th 2014, 3:52 pm

beal99 wrote:I'm in Chicago, we're about 2500 cops short of where we need to be (no money to hire), they've sent the majority of the force to deal with the south side leaving the north neighborhoods high and dry this summer and causing an escalation in robberies and assaults in places not well known for them.

Its a constant gang gun show on the S and W sides in town here nightly, I'm sure you've seen our weekend body counts. The mayor just called in 40 State Police just to handle arrests.

You mean the Mayor is bringing in more cops to murder innocent black children, right? Because that's what they do you know.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 11th 2014, 6:17 pm

This thread illustrates with absolute perfection the people who are upset with looting and the people who are upset with an unarmed kid being murdered.

call me crazy, but I'm a bit more upset with an unarmed kid being murdered.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 11th 2014, 6:18 pm

Though it is nice to see Republicans upset about looting. Now if we could just get them to pay attention to school shootings..

baby steps...
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Post by xsanguine August 11th 2014, 6:25 pm

These threads are Bobby Sak's bread & butter hunting grounds...

Sak is like the kid with a cannon arm and throws 93mph as a 13 year old but just doesn't like sports and wants to become a conservation officer or manage hotels or something. Just wasting his talents... Sak, PM me if you want to use what God gave you... I'll be your internet troll's Jerry Maguire.

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Post by Guest August 11th 2014, 6:26 pm

beal99 wrote:I don't care if the looters are black, white, red, yellow, green, purple, fuscia.

If you use something like this to go all lootee and get your free TV or some shit, you are subhuman filth and I hope the karma bus rolls over your face someday

Hater.
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Post by Guest August 11th 2014, 6:27 pm

beal99 wrote:I'm in Chicago, we're about 2500 cops short of where we need to be (no money to hire)

How can that be? Where does all the tax money in Chicago go?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 11th 2014, 6:34 pm

xsanguine wrote:These threads are Bobby Sak's bread & butter hunting grounds...

Sak is like the kid with a cannon arm and throws 93mph as a 13 year old but just doesn't like sports and wants to become a conservation officer or manage hotels or something. Just wasting his talents... Sak, PM me if you want to use what God gave you... I'll be your internet troll's Jerry Maguire.

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god didn't give me anything. Unlike others, I'm totally responsible for my words and actions.

thanks anyway, though
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Post by xsanguine August 11th 2014, 6:40 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
god didn't give me anything. Unlike others, I'm totally responsible for my words and actions.

thanks anyway, though

I appreciate the fact you didn't capitalize "god". Must be my Lutheran upbringing tearing through. It's an art form, Bob... just remember to always respect the art form. Even the greatest can be duped... it's rare, but it does happen. I've seen it with my very eyes.
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Post by StylesGShmooth August 11th 2014, 6:41 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:This thread illustrates with absolute perfection the people who are upset with looting and the people who are upset with an unarmed kid being murdered.

call me crazy, but I'm a bit more upset with an unarmed kid being murdered.

Well, stealing is illegal
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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 11th 2014, 7:00 pm

StylesGShmooth wrote:

Well, stealing is illegal
murder of an unarmed black kid? Not so much.
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Post by Rocinante August 11th 2014, 7:03 pm

Thanks Miser!!
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Post by beal99 August 11th 2014, 7:16 pm

LooseGoose wrote:

How can that be? Where does all the tax money in Chicago go?

Bwhahaha jokes.
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Post by Stugots August 11th 2014, 7:38 pm

LooseGoose wrote:

How can that be?  Where does all the tax money in Chicago go?

Probably to the contractors/ unions, aldermen, state representatives, etc (and many others)....You know, the usual suspects.
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Post by StylesGShmooth August 11th 2014, 7:44 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
murder of an unarmed black kid? Not so much.

I think it's been very well established that it's very legal.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 12th 2014, 8:27 am

StylesGShmooth wrote:

I think it's been very well established that it's very legal.
'zactly.

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Post by Turtleneck August 12th 2014, 8:58 am

The_Dude wrote:So the unarmed black kid reached for the officers gun, discharging a round into the patrol car.  Once the police officer gained control, he shot a guy that was actively trying to kill him.

Cue up the faux outrage of white liberals who have nothing else to go on besides racism and class warfare.

Let me guess, it's the white man's fault for failed black family structure in America.  It's the white man's fault 73% of all black children born today are illegitimate.   Neutral 

What do you mean by "gained control?" I would think the officer would fire because the situation was not under control. If the officer had the situation under control, why was there a need to shoot the suspect?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 12th 2014, 9:19 am

Turtleneck wrote:

What do you mean by "gained control?" I would think the officer would fire because the situation was not under control. If the officer had the situation under control, why was there a need to shoot the suspect?
clearly you underestimate how dangerous an unarmed black kid is..

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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 12th 2014, 9:31 am

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I appreciate the fact you didn't capitalize "god". Must be my Lutheran upbringing tearing through. It's an art form, Bob... just remember to always respect the art form. Even the greatest can be duped... it's rare, but it does happen. I've seen it with my very eyes.
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Post by Turtleneck August 12th 2014, 9:43 am

The_Dude wrote:

In the mid 60s before LBJ and the great welfare state was produced, black families had children out of wedlock only at a 7.5% rate.  It's risen over 10x the amount.

Liberals solutions never fix the root of the problem.  The root of the problem is failed black family structure.  What has caused that is incentivising being a single mother and being an enabler.  Here's a great academic read that uses facts and stats.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1672


It has stats!! It must be academic!!!
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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 12th 2014, 9:53 am

Turtleneck wrote:

It has stats!! It must be academic!!!
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
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Post by Turtleneck August 12th 2014, 10:12 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not

I really enjoyed reading your post/academic paper.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 12th 2014, 10:31 am

Turtleneck wrote:

I really enjoyed reading your post/academic paper.
well, it did have numbers.. and even a decimal point. Obviously it is firmly rooted in the fertile grounds of scholarly research.

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Post by Turtleneck August 12th 2014, 10:33 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
well, it did have numbers.. and even a decimal point. Obviously it is firmly rooted in the fertile grounds of scholarly research.


It was methodologically advanced to say the least. Cutting edge research, Bob.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 12th 2014, 10:36 am

Turtleneck wrote:

It was methodologically advanced to say the least. Cutting edge research, Bob.
thanks..

I'll be sure to give my research colleague, Prof. Todd Snider, your regards, as well.

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Post by tTito August 12th 2014, 10:59 am

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/08/point_em_out_knock_em_out_teen.html#incart_river

 cheers 
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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 12th 2014, 11:06 am

tTito wrote:http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/08/point_em_out_knock_em_out_teen.html#incart_river

 cheers 
sweet - one more black kid we don't have to worry about for a while..

I already feel safer. Thanks for posting this.

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Post by xsanguine August 12th 2014, 12:07 pm

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I've stumped Bob. Let this day be known. *call me*

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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 12th 2014, 12:37 pm

xsanguine wrote:

I've stumped Bob. Let this day be known. *call me*

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Post by Hut1hut2 August 12th 2014, 1:05 pm

Time to throw more cinder blocks off the iverpass
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Post by Robert J Sakimano August 12th 2014, 2:16 pm

Hut1hut2 wrote:Time to throw more cinder blocks off the iverpass
interesting how republicans are more outraged by cinder blocks being thrown off an overpass than they are about the murder of an unarmed black kid..

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Post by Turtleneck August 12th 2014, 3:11 pm

Bob, these actions are unnecessarily driving up the demand and price of cement products, and stalling the construction of 4000 sqft homes in suburban developments that will be primarily occupied by helpless whites.
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