Re: tOfficial Trial Thread..

[sεяεηιτλ]

Man I think the Supreme Court ruling could massively backfire. We all somewhat giggled. He’ll never build a wall, he’ll never deport 11 million people the day he takes office, he’ll never leave NATO, he’ll never imprison his political opponents, he’ll never get rid of social
Security, he’ll never be a dictator on day one.

We all thought the guardrails were there to prevent it.

Now….

Massively backfire in what way? Your post is unclear if you're saying trump will rue the day this was ruled this way on or if we are simply fucked now

[Robert J Sakimano]

Man I think the Supreme Court ruling could massively backfire. We all somewhat giggled. He’ll never build a wall, he’ll never deport 11 million people the day he takes office, he’ll never leave NATO, he’ll never imprison his political opponents, he’ll never get rid of social
Security, he’ll never be a dictator on day one.

We all thought the guardrails were there to prevent it.

Now….

we're down to the last guardrail to preserve American democracy and the Constitution, and that's to vote.

which is why..

a) anti-America, anti-democracy types are attempting to switch the conversation to "Biden is old".

and..

b) I suspect the anti-America, anti-democracy republicans/libertarians already have a plan in place to contest the election in November, to not certify the election if it goes against their christian hero, and gets kicked to the courts. And we know how that will end.

of course people will try to gaslight folks like me into minimizing these thoughts and opinions and while their gaslighting might shut up their wives, girlfriends, mistresses and daughters, it won't work with me.

we are on the very real precipice of losing our democracy, but let's all talk about Joe Biden being old.

[kingstonlake]

Man I think the Supreme Court ruling could massively backfire. We all somewhat giggled. He’ll never build a wall, he’ll never deport 11 million people the day he takes office, he’ll never leave NATO, he’ll never imprison his political opponents, he’ll never get rid of social
Security, he’ll never be a dictator on day one.

We all thought the guardrails were there to prevent it.

Now….

Massively backfire in what way? Your post is unclear if you're saying trump will rue the day this was ruled this way on or if we are simply fucked now

On covered it. Basically we take 50% of what Trump says as mindless bullshit enacted through meaningless executive orders. Now he has a pathway to legally do what he threatens.

I think it may backfire in that some people will now not risk voting for Trump with their lukewarm support.

[Jake from State Farm]

Manhattan DA’s office has agreed to Trumps request to delay sentencing on the 11th so Merchan can review if the recent Supreme Court ruling affects the verdict.  

That should take about 3 seconds. You did all this shit before you became President? Trump the Felon: yes. Court: You are hereby  sentenced to four years in Rikers Prison with no time off for good behavior because based on your past there's no way in hell you would ever exhibit any kind of good behavior.

[sεяεηιτλ]

Massively backfire in what way? Your post is unclear if you're saying trump will rue the day this was ruled this way on or if we are simply fucked now

On covered it. Basically we take 50% of what Trump says as mindless bullshit enacted through meaningless executive orders. Now he has a pathway to legally do what he threatens.

I think it may backfire in that some people will now not risk voting for Trump with their lukewarm support.

Thanks, wow, that wasn't clear at all to me, glad I asked.

Maybe. It's a theory anyways. No idea what people will do on a macro scale. You also assume the people bailing on trump exceed the extremist unAmerican folks that are more attracted to him based on the things he said.

[Floyd Robertson]

Massively backfire in what way? Your post is unclear if you're saying trump will rue the day this was ruled this way on or if we are simply fucked now

On covered it. Basically we take 50% of what Trump says as mindless bullshit enacted through meaningless executive orders. Now he has a pathway to legally do what he threatens.

I think it may backfire in that some people will now not risk voting for Trump with their lukewarm support.

That's great, but it counts on a lot of people actually paying attention to what's going on.

[sεяεηιτλ]

Now, the hush money conviction is up in the air. Prosecutors used a federal ethics form trump filled out as evidence and that is now banned by scotus to be used as evidence, for some reason. This scotus decision just gets worse and worse. It's completely unmoored from any constitutional backing and now turns absolutely everything into a grey area. The limits are not defined and so that's about as good as not having limits, for trump. This is the grey area crap that trump thrives in. The dissenters were absolutely right, they've created a king.

https://www.businessinsider.com/piece-of-evidence-can-now-scuttle-trump-hush-money-conviction-2024-7

[DWags]

Wake the fuck up America.


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[Travis of the Cosmos]

We were awake to that when we were calling for the President and senate to vote to expand the court, but Biden wasn’t down for that.

[kingstonlake]

Don’t worry. The Supreme Court will protect us.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Vote for Biden so we can continue eating the supreme courts shit and saying “ah well. Gotta vote for democrats harder I guess lol” forever isn’t really the chief selling point #350,000,000SupremeCourtJustices

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-calls-us-colleges-consider-adversity-during-admission-process-2023-06-29/

[kingstonlake]

I’ve seen you mention the 4 bazillion Supreme Court justices, Travis. How does that work?

[DWags]

We were awake to that when we were calling for the President and senate to vote to expand the court, but Biden wasn’t down for that.

FDR tried it.

[kingstonlake]

I wouldn’t trust 3/4 of the population to feed my cats for the weekend.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Basically just direct democracy.

The rebuff to expanding the court is always “well if we make it 11 they’ll just make it 13!” Okay fine that’s true so fuck it, make everyone a Supreme Court justice. Liberal policies are always more popular anyway, it’s the republicans who want this in the hands of a select few elites not democrats. Need to make a decision on an abortion law? Sure, let’s let the 350,000,000 Supreme Court justices vote on it.

We can pay them all a salary too, so we get a UBI win win out of it too so that’s nice

[Travis of the Cosmos]

We were awake to that when we were calling for the President and senate to vote to expand the court, but Biden wasn’t down for that.

FDR tried it.  

It’s been done several times in the past. The court originally had 5

[kingstonlake]

Basically just direct democracy.

The rebuff to expanding the court is always “well if we make it 11 they’ll just make it 13!” Okay fine that’s true so fuck it, make everyone a Supreme Court justice. Liberal policies are always more popular anyway, it’s the republicans who want this in the hands of a select few elites not democrats. Need to make a decision on an abortion law? Sure, let’s let the 350,000,000 Supreme Court justices vote on it.

We can pay them all a salary too, so we get a UBI win win out of it too so that’s nice

How do you vote on something that requires an act of congress? Seems a lot more doable with a super majority.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Basically just direct democracy.

The rebuff to expanding the court is always “well if we make it 11 they’ll just make it 13!” Okay fine that’s true so fuck it, make everyone a Supreme Court justice. Liberal policies are always more popular anyway, it’s the republicans who want this in the hands of a select few elites not democrats. Need to make a decision on an abortion law? Sure, let’s let the 350,000,000 Supreme Court justices vote on it.

We can pay them all a salary too, so we get a UBI win win out of it too so that’s nice

Alternatively it’s a farce having that many justice and the ludicrous Supreme Court needs to be torn down and rebuilt

Oh darn 

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Basically just direct democracy.

The rebuff to expanding the court is always “well if we make it 11 they’ll just make it 13!” Okay fine that’s true so fuck it, make everyone a Supreme Court justice. Liberal policies are always more popular anyway, it’s the republicans who want this in the hands of a select few elites not democrats. Need to make a decision on an abortion law? Sure, let’s let the 350,000,000 Supreme Court justices vote on it.

We can pay them all a salary too, so we get a UBI win win out of it too so that’s nice

How do you vote on something that requires an act of congress?

Same way justices do now bro. Congress passed it, someone challenges it in courts, and the Supreme Court ultimately votes on if the law stays or not. 

Or it doesn’t make sense at all and our esteemed colleagues of the 350,000,000 person Supreme Court will have to vote in a new way of passing laws

[DWags]

FDR tried it.  

It’s been done several times in the past. The court originally had 5

Yeah, I’m not educated as to why it went to 7/9 I do know FDR had specific reasons to pack the court. That was because of his legislation. It was a power move. I’ll read up on court expansion tonight.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

It’s been done several times in the past. The court originally had 5

Yeah, I’m not educated as to why it went to 7/9    I do know FDR had specific reasons to pack the court.   That was because of his legislation.    It was a power move.   I’ll read up on court expansion tonight.

The long and short of it is that the constitution only says that the court has to exist. It doesn’t say how many members it needs to have. So the bar for adding more is significantly lower than you would need for something like a constitutional amendment, and thus achievable if you can get the ruling class democrats on board (which….)

[kingstonlake]

It’s been done several times in the past. The court originally had 5

Yeah, I’m not educated as to why it went to 7/9    I do know FDR had specific reasons to pack the court.   That was because of his legislation.    It was a power move.   I’ll read up on court expansion tonight.

You’ll need 60 votes in the senate to add justices.

[Travis of the Cosmos]

Yeah, I’m not educated as to why it went to 7/9    I do know FDR had specific reasons to pack the court.   That was because of his legislation.    It was a power move.   I’ll read up on court expansion tonight.

You’ll need 60 votes in the senate to add justices.

Yeah. It’ll help if the President and rest of the party except for like 3-4 senators were on board too

[Trapper Gus]

Yeah, I’m not educated as to why it went to 7/9    I do know FDR had specific reasons to pack the court.   That was because of his legislation.    It was a power move.   I’ll read up on court expansion tonight.

You’ll need 60 votes in the senate to add justices.

Or 50 plus 1 if they are willing to do away with the filibuster.

[Robert J Sakimano]

Yeah, I’m not educated as to why it went to 7/9    I do know FDR had specific reasons to pack the court.   That was because of his legislation.    It was a power move.   I’ll read up on court expansion tonight.

You’ll need 60 votes in the senate to add justices.

or President Biden could issue an "official act" that is now protected by SCOTUS.

but he won't because Democrats think too highly of the average American.

[sεяεηιτλ]

panding the court is always “well if we make it 11 they’ll just make it 13!” Okay fine that’s true so fuck it, make everyone a Supreme Court justice. Liberal policies are always more popular anyway, it’s the republicans who want this in the hands of a select few elites not democrats. Need to make a decision on an abortion law? Sure, let’s let the 350,000,000 Supreme Court justices vote on it.

So... essentially ballot initiatives on a national scale.

I'm down for the big ones doing this, but a lot goes in front of the court that none of us care to understand or want to vote on. Also a lot of it is very complicated 349,000,000/350,000,000 wouldn't understand

[sεяεηιτλ]

You’ll need 60 votes in the senate to add justices.

or President Biden could issue an "official act" that is now protected by SCOTUS.

but he won't because Democrats think too highly of the average American.

The problem with that is that the unamerican and corrupt SCOTUS that was stolen and packed by unamerican and corrupt republicans is essentially the arbiter of what is and is not an "official act".  Wanna take a guess where they will land on biden "official acts" and Trump "official acts"?

Their open claim of "originalism" and how that makes ruling much more clear and black/white is a steaming pile of shit.  They've already shown the propensity to twist and turn their decisions on whatever whim it is that day, originalism be damned.  It's a farce, a lie.  Just like the unamerican and corrupt SCOTUS that was stolen and packed by the unamerican and corrupt republicans, this is simply a way to deflect responsibility/blame for unpopular decisions..."sorry, it's not us, it's the constitution... do you want to get rid of the constitution or something?"

[Robert J Sakimano]

or President Biden could issue an "official act" that is now protected by SCOTUS.

but he won't because Democrats think too highly of the average American.

The problem with that is that the unamerican and corrupt SCOTUS that was stolen and packed by unamerican and corrupt republicans is essentially the arbiter of what is and is not an "official act".  Wanna take a guess where they will land on biden "official acts" and Trump "official acts"?

Their open claim of "originalism" and how that makes ruling much more clear and black/white is a steaming pile of shit.  They've already shown the propensity to twist and turn their decisions on whatever whim it is that day, originalism be damned.  It's a farce, a lie.  Just like the unamerican and corrupt SCOTUS that was stolen and packed by the unamerican and corrupt republicans, this is simply a way to deflect responsibility/blame for unpopular decisions..."sorry, it's not us, it's the constitution... do you want to get rid of the constitution or something?"

yep.

The racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon not only would do it, it would be celebrated by thr mainstream media and SCOTUS.

[Jake from State Farm]

Welp, there's one less nail in Trump's coffin:

Judge dismisses Trump classified documents case

[Robert J Sakimano]

Welp, there's one less nail in Trump's coffin:

Judge dismisses Trump classified documents case

[Trapper Gus]

Welp, there's one less nail in Trump's coffin:

Judge dismisses Trump classified documents case

It will be a big surprise if this isn't overturned on appeal.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-classified-documents-smith-c66d5ffb7ba86c1b991f95e89bdeba0c

[Jake from State Farm]

Welp, there's one less nail in Trump's coffin:

Judge dismisses Trump classified documents case

It will be a big surprise if this isn't overturned on appeal.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-classified-documents-smith-c66d5ffb7ba86c1b991f95e89bdeba0c

There's no way that's going to happen before the election. Cannon did her job masterfully.

[MiamiSpartan]

Welp, there's one less nail in Trump's coffin:

Judge dismisses Trump classified documents case

It will be a big surprise if this isn't overturned on appeal.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-classified-documents-smith-c66d5ffb7ba86c1b991f95e89bdeba0c

Glad it can be appealed.  We saw what happened the last time a decision of hers about the classified documents got sent to the appeals court, she was virtually ridiculed by them.

Would it get just sent back to her, though?  Or would it go to a new judge?  I don't see how she could preside over a new one after this. At least not until she gets that Supreme Court nomination a year from now and gets to help formally end it forever.

[Robert J Sakimano]

also, from May 22nd.

while the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist's trial is still going on in New York, yet another one is entering a new phase regarding the stolen classified documents found at the Mar-A-Lago Truck Stop and Massage Parlor.

   Florida hearing in Trump classified documents case devolves into shouting match




reminder that nothing with happen to him via this trial, either.

as democracy and the justice system is dismantled before our eyes, let's get back to talking about what's really important: Joe Biden being old.

(reminder that the courts aren't saving us).

[Trapper Gus]

It will be a big surprise if this isn't overturned on appeal.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-classified-documents-smith-c66d5ffb7ba86c1b991f95e89bdeba0c

There's no way that's going to happen before the election. Cannon did her job masterfully.

Depends on how pissed off the appeals court is about what is already decided law and this rogue judge.

[kingstonlake]

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence Trump never tweeted about her being conflicted.

[Trapper Gus]

The Supreme Court will also be politically conflicted as they will not want to take this power away from Trump.

I know this Supreme Court cares not at all for past rulings, but...

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[kingstonlake]

I don’t see how this ruling will motivate a bigger turnout of people to vote for Trump.

I do see how this ruling will motivate a bigger turnout of people to vote against him.

[Robert J Sakimano]

The Supreme Court will also be politically conflicted as they will not want to take this power away from Trump.

I know this Supreme Court cares not at all for past rulings, but...

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nothing is gonna happen, the courts aren't going to save America or democracy.

We're down to our last defense.. voting.

Which is why the mainstream media and republicans/libertarians are running with the "Joe Biden is old" narrative - and it's only gonna get worse. The intellectually/emotionally vulnerable still have nearly 4 months of their narratives to absorb.

[Trapper Gus]

The Supreme Court will also be politically conflicted as they will not want to take this power away from Trump.

I know this Supreme Court cares not at all for past rulings, but...

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nothing is gonna happen, the courts aren't going to save America or democracy.

We're down to our last defense.. voting.

Which is why the mainstream media and republicans/libertarians are running with the "Joe Biden is old" narrative - and it's only gonna get worse. The intellectually/emotionally vulnerable still have nearly 4 months of their narratives to absorb.

The propaganda networks on the internets, and MSM, will be running 247 to convince others like Cam not to vote for Biden.

Here is a second tweet, with a recycled funny in it:

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