Coach Prime Was A Home Run Hire

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

steveschneider wrote:
In the coming years Buffalo mania is going to run wild!

After Prime takes the Texas AM job? Why?

kingstonlake wrote:Colorado finishes 1-8 in conference play for the second year in a row. 

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Colorado finishes 1-8 in conference play for the second year in a row. 

Same record, great... BUT...they have the biggest win of the year, they gained the fandom of the most stable type of fan everyone is after... Steve and his peers. Sportscenter and GMA approve.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Steve!!! Your shitty coach is a failure, lolz.

steveschneider wrote:Oh my just got off a nice holiday week and I have some catching up to do.

The good:
Tv ratings monster
NIL power house
Got elite skill position players
Best celeb scene since the show time lakers

The bad:
Still got a lot of anchors on the roster that needs to transfer
Need an oc

Basically time to say peace out to a bunch of kids that need to go somewhere else and load up the truck. Question for the haters what are we going to say about our new coach if he’s under five wins next year? Watching vs PSU I can tell you right now Colorado has a much better roster than MSU.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

steveschneider wrote:Oh my just got off a nice holiday week and I have some catching up to do.

The good:
Tv ratings monster
NIL power house
Got elite skill position players
Best celeb scene since the show time lakers

The bad:
Still got a lot of anchors on the roster that needs to transfer
Need an oc

Basically time to say peace out to a bunch of kids that need to go somewhere else and load up the truck. Question for the haters what are we going to say about our new coach if he’s under five wins next year? Watching vs PSU I can tell you right now Colorado has a much better roster than MSU.

that he should have MC Glock and DJ BurgerFlip kickin' it on the sidelines and that will deflect attention away from the wins/losses?

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I don’t know what kind of evidence people need that the heisman is a joke of an award that no one should talk about or care about and that the Walter camp award is the one that you should care about, but you can add this to the pile

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Hey Steve.. your favorite celebrity, who masquerades as a football coach, was named the Sports Illustrated Person Of The Year!

congrats to you, MC Glock, DJ Rolex and the Soul Sonic BurgerFlippin' Mafia.

may y'all enjoy your champagne-filled hot tubs, your fancy cars and watches, the corporate media attention and, don't forget to remind Prime that he does have a football team to tend to.. it seems like he has forgotten.

Sports Illustrated Person of the Year

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I don’t know what kind of evidence people need that the heisman is a joke of an award that no one should talk about or care about and that the Walter camp award is the one that you should care about, but you can add this to the pile

as this thread demonstrates, it's not about wins/losses.. it's about attention and clicks.

'Merica

steveschneider wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Hey Steve.. your favorite celebrity, who masquerades as a football coach, was named the Sports Illustrated Person Of The Year!

congrats to you, MC Glock, DJ Rolex and the Soul Sonic BurgerFlippin' Mafia.

may y'all enjoy your champagne-filled hot tubs, your fancy cars and watches, the corporate media attention and, don't forget to remind Prime that he does have a football team to tend to.. it seems like he has forgotten.

Sports Illustrated Person of the Year

It’s funny all year I’ve been touting his ratings and the NIL powerhouse and I see a lot of Spartans saying oh shit we need NIL.

I’ve taken a lot of shit about my takes on Calipari and Deion but I make them because these people are leaders. They are taking the game forward to the next level.

Also, sportsman of the year Kingston!!!

steveschneider wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: as this thread demonstrates, it's not about wins/losses.. it's about attention and clicks.

'Merica

MSU lost every quarterback. Every single one. All season posters came into this thread and said they only want players that want to be at msu. This was so antiquated. We crushed it with the coaching hire but now we need to modernize the culture. If I’m Tom izzo I get on the phone to the Big 3 and see if they can start giving muscle cars to the stars on our football team. NIL it up!

"We're not an ATM. That's not going to happen here. If you come to Colorado to play football for me and the Colorado Buffaloes, it's because you really want to play football and receive a wonderful education and all the business stuff will be handled on the back end if that's the case. But we are not an ATM. You're not coming here to get rich unless you're really coming here with a plan to go to the NFL and get your degree."

Colorado lost its second quarterback recruit in as many days Monday, when Danny O'Neil decommitted from the Buffaloes' 2024 class...

With O'Neil decommitting, Colorado has just eight high school commitments in the 2024 class weeks away from the early signing period starting Dec. 20. He is the second decommitment from the 2024 class in November for Colorado, after offensive lineman Talan Chandler left the class Nov. 19.

Quarterbacks Antwann Hill (class of 2025) and Danny O'Neil (2024) each decommitted from the Buffaloes on Sunday and Monday respectively, according to ESPN's Tom VanHaaren, while running back Jamarice Wilder (2025) decommitted from the school as well on Monday.

"I have decommitted from Colorado and my recruitment is now 100 percent open," he told Hayes Fawcett of On3.

Earlier this month, wide receiver Winston Watkins Jr. (2025) also decommited, while offensive lineman Talan Chandler (2024) flipped his commitment from Colorado to Missouri.

Nordic wrote:There are half dozen (or less) NIL powerhouses and Colorado is not one of them. The rest are trying to find their footing (including MSU).

Nordic wrote:FTR, I'm one of the few that think Deon is a pretty good coach and Shedeur is a damn good QB.

But to say Colorado/Deon is a NIL powerhouse is just flat out wrong. There are half dozen (or less) NIL powerhouses and Colorado is not one of them. The rest are trying to find their footing (including MSU).

Nordic wrote:NIL powerhouse. Might want forensic accountant on that one...

https://www.si.com/fannation/name-image-likeness/news/deion-sanders-honest-message-to-recruits-on-nil-funds-were-not-an-atm-wad9

"We're not an ATM. That's not going to happen here. If you come to Colorado to play football for me and the Colorado Buffaloes, it's because you really want to play football and receive a wonderful education and all the business stuff will be handled on the back end if that's the case. But we are not an ATM. You're not coming here to get rich unless you're really coming here with a plan to go to the NFL and get your degree."

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38992216/danny-oneil-joins-antwann-hill-decommitted-colorado-qbs

Colorado lost its second quarterback recruit in as many days Monday, when Danny O'Neil decommitted from the Buffaloes' 2024 class...

With O'Neil decommitting, Colorado has just eight high school commitments in the 2024 class weeks away from the early signing period starting Dec. 20. He is the second decommitment from the 2024 class in November for Colorado, after offensive lineman Talan Chandler left the class Nov. 19.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10098883-danny-oneil-jamarice-wilder-among-recruits-to-decommit-from-deion-sanders-colorado

Quarterbacks Antwann Hill (class of 2025) and Danny O'Neil (2024) each decommitted from the Buffaloes on Sunday and Monday respectively, according to ESPN's Tom VanHaaren, while running back Jamarice Wilder (2025) decommitted from the school as well on Monday.

"I have decommitted from Colorado and my recruitment is now 100 percent open," he told Hayes Fawcett of On3.

Earlier this month, wide receiver Winston Watkins Jr. (2025) also decommited, while offensive lineman Talan Chandler (2024) flipped his commitment from Colorado to Missouri.

Nordic wrote:FTR, I'm one of the few that think Deon is a pretty good coach and Shedeur is a damn good QB.

But to say Colorado/Deon is a NIL powerhouse is just flat out wrong. There are half dozen (or less) NIL powerhouses and Colorado is not one of them. The rest are trying to find their footing (including MSU).

Shedeur and Hunter probably got sweetheart deal But it is not carrying over to 2024.

Nordic wrote:And that modern offense nearly got his kid killed. Yes their o-line is very bad..

I’ve watched more USC games than any human with no connection to the school should. Similar offense, equally shitty o-lines and similar QBs. Blame the Oline, but at some point you have to start questioning the scheme. No TE, no H-back, 100% gun and very little effort to establish the run. Do it enough and teams get tape and start to tee off by cutting off your routes and sending an extra rusher who will undoubtedly have a free run a the QB (see above). Watching Colorado games are eerily similar. Almost identical, except USC has better players.

At some point you can’t just blame the oline.

duffy munn wrote:

Nordic wrote:NIL powerhouse. Might want forensic accountant on that one...

https://www.si.com/fannation/name-image-likeness/news/deion-sanders-honest-message-to-recruits-on-nil-funds-were-not-an-atm-wad9



https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38992216/danny-oneil-joins-antwann-hill-decommitted-colorado-qbs



https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10098883-danny-oneil-jamarice-wilder-among-recruits-to-decommit-from-deion-sanders-colorado

So modern though

steveschneider wrote:

Nordic wrote:And that modern offense nearly got his kid killed. Yes their o-line is very bad..

I’ve watched more USC games than any human with no connection to the school should. Similar offense, equally shitty o-lines and similar QBs. Blame the Oline, but at some point you have to start questioning the scheme. No TE, no H-back, 100% gun and very little effort to establish the run. Do it enough and teams get tape and start to tee off by cutting off your routes and sending an extra rusher who will undoubtedly have a free run a the QB (see above). Watching Colorado games are eerily similar. Almost identical, except USC has better players.

At some point you can’t just blame the oline.

I’ve watched a ton of Colorado that O line is flat out terrible. To your point they did demote and send the coordinator packing. We will have to see what kind of kids they pick up this month and what changes they make.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

I’ve watched a ton of Colorado that O line is flat out terrible. To your point they did demote and send the coordinator packing. We will have to see what kind of kids they pick up this month and what changes they make.

I realize that you're getting a kick out of all of this and willing to say whatever gets people bent..

But this dude, with MC Glock,  DJ BurgerFlip, Good Morning America, CNN, et al., in his corner literally finished with the same record, in a lesser conference,  as the godforsaken debacle of a year MSU football team did.

So enjoy the attention here. But you're not really fooling anyone, dude.

steveschneider wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
I realize that you're getting a kick out of all of this and willing to say whatever gets people bent..

But this dude, with MC Glock,  DJ BurgerFlip, Good Morning America, CNN, et al., in his corner literally finished with the same record, in a lesser conference,  as the godforsaken debacle of a year MSU football team did.

So enjoy the attention here. But you're not really fooling anyone, dude.

Really? I think the PAC 12 is better than the Big Ten. Never seen the conference look so bad.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

Really? I think the PAC 12 is better than the Big Ten. Never seen the conference look so bad.

seems like both conferences are top heavy.

I'm not gonna dig it up, as I'm busy listening to "Backstreets" from the '78 Winterland show.. but I suspect MSU's strength of schedule was tougher than Colorado's.

Zurn wrote:Prime got a lot of mileage out up his upset (at least it was then) in his first game v TCU. A better test will be what happens with CU next year. Despite the influence of the portal college football rosters still need some time to mature.

MSU is in a similar spot to CU although with coaches of opposite personalities.

steveschneider wrote:You guys see the transfers he’s pulling in? LOL!!!

Colorado is going to be in the playoffs. Incredible job. That’s what having set up an NIL powerhouse will do for you.

DWags wrote:I wish this thread would die.  I’ll say this and then stay out of it.  Successful head coaches are two things, recruiters who get the right players  for their system.  Not necessarily the highest ranked or most stars, but the best for what you run.  What is Dion running?  Does he need pass blockers?  Run blockers?  Is his defense going to be aggressive cover 1’s and 0’s?  Will that work with his offense?  I’m clueless when I watch them.  

That leads me to the second part of being a great coach. You need to have a staff that can teach kids who have talent. Because I guarantee you when you get a kid that’s a four star or a five star, most likely he didn’t get or he didn’t need a lot of coaching in high school.

Dion fired his OC partly because his son started getting his ass kicked when he would drop back to pass.  So they changed OC’s.  But what did they change?  I saw the same blocking schemes, often putting five people out  on  pass routes and only using five linemen to pass pro.  That made no sense.  And if he gets five 5 star linemen starting next year, if he thinks division one defenses won’t  still get to a qb he’s a fool.  Here’s some math for Dion. You have 11 on defense but only 10 on offense because one has the ball at all times. That means you are always out numbered by one. If you don’t have a blocking scheme I promise you the one unblocked division one athlete is a fast big bad ass with evil Intentions.  

So I don’t know what kind of staff he has. Or if they are any good. Or if he just wants to showcase his son. But if he goes into next year with the same blocking schemes, I don’t care how many five star athletes he has. He’s going to be a Mel Tucker staff with better players. 6-6. , 7-5