Re: Obsession - the tears of my enemies.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:15 pm

kingstonlake wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:national championship coach is inept?

Definitely not inept the last three years. Did something change? Because to the best of my memory he was routinely out coached in big or even mid games.

yeah.. what could that possibly be? scratch

by AvgMSUJoe Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:27 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:national championship coach is inept?

Hot seat coach that started cheating, started beating the spread, got better croots, then won the natty is mediocre. (Without cheating)

by AvgMSUJoe Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:29 pm

kingstonlake wrote:I’d speculate that the NFL might not be as impressed with his natty/college career as the rest of the media heads are. He’s the same guy he’s always been. If anything he’s gotten more weird.

Yeah, that may be. They didn't love him the first time around.

by **Turtleneck** Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:10 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:national championship coach is inept?

Did you read or listen to that? He was going to get axed until he begged his brother for coaches, then they won. Maybe not inept, but it sounds like he couldn't figure it out, including finding the right coaches, until his brother did it for him.

by CaptainSlow33 Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:32 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:national championship coach is inept?

Did you read or listen to that? He was going to get axed until he begged his brother for coaches, then they won. Maybe not inept, but it sounds like he couldn't figure it out, including finding the right coaches, until his brother did it for him.

I said it before Michigan hired him, and it still rings true now. Jim isn't the Harbaugh that would make me nervous coaching Michigan.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:34 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:national championship coach is inept?

Did you read or listen to that? He was going to get axed until he begged his brother for coaches, then they won. Maybe not inept, but it sounds like he couldn't figure it out, including finding the right coaches, until his brother did it for him.

read the whole thing. part of being a college football coach, or majority of it, is hiring the right people under you. it's like a CEO.

by **Turtleneck** Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:57 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

Did you read or listen to that? He was going to get axed until he begged his brother for coaches, then they won. Maybe not inept, but it sounds like he couldn't figure it out, including finding the right coaches, until his brother did it for him.

read the whole thing. part of being a college football coach, or majority of it, is hiring the right people under you. it's like a CEO.

And the point is he could not do that independent of his brother; until he called his brother and said "send me some coaches, bro." Does this mean if his brother said no, is not coaching, or does not exist, Jim would have just gone on being 9-3 or 10-2 and losing to OSU every year? The story of this team is their defense and he got that from his brother. Sounds like his brother is the real hero of the story. Also, Gene Chizik has a national title so we don't need to pretend like everyone who wins one is a super duper best of all-time coach.

Edit: Yes, this really is just sour grapes stuff but let me do it and move along please.

by **NigelUno** Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:18 pm

Turtleneck wrote:Wait, how did this not get more coverage? Maybe I'm being petty, but I guess Jim Harbaugh is a little brother and a little brother. He couldn't get it done so he allegedly got his brother to make it work for him. I am posting this because UM fans are bragging that the Ravens will supply them with an endless number of brilliant defensive coaches. Anyway, all this says to me is that Jim is inept and couldn't get it done without John sending him coaches.

“Ravens the best team in the NFL, Michigan looks like the best team in college football, what’s the connection?” - Cowherd

“The connection runs so much deeper than anyone actually realizes. It goes back to the Covid year when there was talk when Jim Harbaugh was going to be fired. Michigan wanted to walk away from Jim and restart and do something else. And they stuck with him and he took that reduced contract, and Jim’s move, his switch, was calling his brother. He said ‘hey man, I have to get it right and I have to beat Ohio State specifically’. And he called John and said ‘I need your defense, give me two guys’. And John gave him Mike MacDonald and Jesse Minter. John said ‘choose one’. Jim told John ‘I don’t want to choose, both of these guys are great, I can take either one’. John says ‘ well you gotta choose and the other will go coordinate at Vanderbilt’. So Jim chooses Mike MacDonald and MacDonald was the defensive coordinator at Michigan for 2021. Jesse went to Vanderbilt in order to get coordinating experience from that tree. Mike then goes back to Baltimore after 2021 to become the defensive coordinator. So what does Jim do? ‘ Give me the other guy’. And so he brings in Jesse Minter. And now Jesse Minter and Mike MacDonald are both coordinating the two best defenses in football. And they’re running a very similar if not the exact same scheme. And now what you’re starting to see in the NFL and college ranks is that people are chasing down this scheme. They all want a piece of what’s going on. And what’s going on is that they built a run front with their defensive tackles, they play hard edges on the outsides with those rush ends, and they got hybrid players in the middle of their defense - linebacker, nickel, and safety - with good solid cover guys on the edge. And that’s what they’ve built, both of them. And they’re eerily similar and you’ve seen them dominate both levels of football in the NFL and college. And it goes back to that covid year - Jim calling John and saying ‘I want your two best best and brightest young guys’ and John gave them Mike MacDonald and Jesse Minter." - Joel Klatt

I wonder if an NFL owner will read that, and wonder if John will help his lil bro out as an NFL Coach.

by **kingstonlake** Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:15 pm

I’m still confused how really good OSU teams with the soon to be ROY QB in the nfl were blown out by UM. Yet freshman wobble arm what’s his name portal boy had them biting their nails on their last drive this year.

Maybe I’m over thinking it.

by **Motown Spartan** Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:38 pm

kingstonlake wrote:I’m still confused how really good OSU teams with the soon to be ROY QB in the nfl were blown out by UM. Yet freshman wobble arm what’s his name portal boy had them biting their nails on their last drive this year.

Maybe I’m over thinking it.

OL and DL line play

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:46 pm

It was the cheating

by **tGreenWay** Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:51 pm

kingstonlake wrote:I’m still confused how really good OSU teams with the soon to be ROY QB in the nfl were blown out by UM. Yet freshman wobble arm what’s his name portal boy had them biting their nails on their last drive this year.

Maybe I’m over thinking it.

Yeah, that’s probably not something you’ve ever been accused of. Obsession - the tears of my enemies. - Page 10 2809484752

by **MiamiSpartan** Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:22 pm

kingstonlake wrote:I’m still confused how really good OSU teams with the soon to be ROY QB in the nfl were blown out by UM. Yet freshman wobble arm what’s his name portal boy had them biting their nails on their last drive this year.

Maybe I’m over thinking it.

It was the brilliant anticipation of UM's offense and defense. Almost as if they were in the opposing teams' huddle. Such great coaching and high football IQ among those UM players to sense what plays the opposition was going to run.

by **Turtleneck** Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:18 am

How soon we forget....February 2022

“I called Warde [Manuel, the Michigan athletic director] and I asked him if he wanted me to be the head coach. And he said, ‘Yes, 100 percent.’ And I said, OK then. That’s what I want to do.’ And I told him, ‘Warde, this will not be a reoccurring theme every year. This was a one-time thing.”

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jim-harbaugh-vikings-interview-was-a-one-time-thing-im-done-chasing-nfl-jobs

by **Turtleneck** Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:58 pm

Michigan Quarterback Reportedly Seeking Seventh Season of College Football Eligibility in 2024

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/michigan-quarterback-jack-tuttle-seventh-season-college-football

I wonder if he ever sits in rocking chairs on the front porch with Rocky Lombardi.

by **NigelUno** Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:10 am

by **Turtleneck** Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:42 am

It seems like all involved are taking it super seriously, Nigel. Stalions was at the Rose Bowl and now UM cult members can pay $75 to get a message from Stalions, or even pay $3 to send him a message. For real, you can pay to send him an email or something.

Ex-Michigan football staffer Connor Stalions offering personalized messages

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ex-michigan-football-staffer-connor-stalions-offering-personalized-messages/ar-AA1n8Ttx

by **DWags** Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:50 am

Can’t read what Nigel posted and when I go on web version on my phone half is cut off. Can someone copy and paste?

by **Turtleneck** Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:54 am

DWags wrote:Can’t read what Nigel posted and when I go on web version on my phone half is cut off. Can someone copy and paste?

It's an image of the CMU football staff being arrested by the FBI.

Just kidding. It's an image of a post from another forum saying the NCAA has talked with CMU.

by **Trapper Gus** Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:09 pm

DWags wrote:Can’t read what Nigel posted and when I go on web version on my phone half is cut off. Can someone copy and paste?

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by **Jake from State Farm** Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:24 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
DWags wrote:Can’t read what Nigel posted and when I go on web version on my phone half is cut off. Can someone copy and paste?

Why would scUM be in on the interviews?

by **tGreenWay** Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:33 pm

Jake from State Farm wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Why would scUM be in on the interviews?

That makes zero sense.

by **NigelUno** Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:47 pm

Jake from State Farm wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Why would scUM be in on the interviews?

I guess because he worked for Michigan? Seems odd. Not sure I believe it.

by **Floyd Robertson** Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:47 am

Sounds like Harbaugh to the Chargers might be a done deal today.

by **NigelUno** Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:10 am

Floyd Robertson wrote:Sounds like Harbaugh to the Chargers might be a done deal today.

Good Luck to the Crying Guy who got in trouble with his grandma.

by **kingstonlake** Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:09 pm

Cheating upward. No repercussions.

by **GRR Spartan** Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:17 pm

Harbaugh in a great position.

If umaa offers a 9 year $11.5M/per season deal on the table and includes a Sargent Schultz/Bill Self clause (I know nothing and can’t be held personally responsible for anything my staff does) he may stay. Reportedly a major sticking point for some at umaa.

If the Chargers give him a five year deal worth $15M/season it would be $1M more than the Rams are paying McVay, Harbaugh would be back in CA and leave any penalties the NCAA might impose on umaa to the next guy.

by **NigelUno** Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:22 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:Harbaugh in a great position.

If umaa offers a 9 year $11.5M/per season deal on the table and includes a Sargent Schultz/Bill Self clause (I know nothing and can’t be held personally responsible for anything my staff does) he may stay. Reportedly a major sticking point for some at umaa.

If the Chargers give him a five year deal worth $15M/season it would be $1M more than the Rams are paying McVay, Harbaugh would be back in CA and leave any penalties the NCAA might impose on umaa to the next guy.

He's been trying to leave for 2+ years. He ain't coming back.

by **DWags** Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:11 pm

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by **Floyd Robertson** Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:33 pm

DWags wrote:[tw]1750221619006407069?s=46&t=o_-92Ldle66XHQBlJVUMFQ[/tw]

Probably came back to town to, oh I don't know, tell his team he's gone.

by **kingstonlake** Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:11 pm

Harbaugh cooled on them.

by **NigelUno** Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:15 pm

DWags wrote:[tw]1750221619006407069?s=46&t=o_-92Ldle66XHQBlJVUMFQ[/tw]

Except he's actually still in LA...

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by **Motown Spartan** Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:52 pm

Harbaugh, out.

by **Motown Spartan** Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:08 pm

Jonathon Smith scared him out of town.

by aualum06 Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:09 pm

Let the whitewashing begin

by **tGreenWay** Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:09 pm

https://apnews.com/article/2b8eb8ef9e0a934b066936c6e57e64f1

by **tGreenWay** Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:12 pm

Bolting ahead of a show-cause from the ncaa.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:22 pm

by **Turtleneck** Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:25 pm

CBS Sports posted an article about an hour ago that said UM was prepared to agree to the immunity clause. President Santa went all in on Harbaugh, showed him love and loyalty, and was apparently willing to go total sycophant in a new contract, and Harbaugh still bolts. Well, back to the regularly scheduled everybody point at UM and laugh programming.

by **Turtleneck** Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:26 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Stuff like this is why MSU had to fire their last coach...

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