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Re: Joe Biden is crushing it.
Trapper Gus wrote:Cameron wrote:
Trapper asserted that Iran was not getting involved, and also that they were. Those are mutually exclusive statements. No amount of nuance, context, or spin can make them not be mutually exclusive.
He first said they were staying out in name, which I take to mean direct, non-proxy involvement. He made this statement as headlines were already indicating missile launches were imminent. When I pointed this out, he himself noted that Iran had already launched missiles at Israel in a previous retaliation, directly contradicting his previous statement (but I guess in his mind somehow cancelling out?). Then he said something non-sensical about how he can have it both ways. I then pointed out that his first statement in the exchange was nonsense, he posted something non-sensical about the earlier missiles Iran launched not counting as Iran getting involved, and then you felt the need to chime in in an apparent attempt to prove to everyone that you are even dumber than Trapper, and now here we are.
So I'm following along just fine.
At different points in time. In your world MSU Football is the National Champion right now because they were at one time.
You said Iran was staying out. They had launched missiles at Israel both before and after you said that, and there were reports that the missile strikes were imminent as you said that Iran was staying out. So what you said was demonstrably false. Just because the missiles weren't in the air the exact second you posted that doesn't make it any less incorrect. Just take the L, you've earned it.
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Cameron wrote:sεяεηιτλ wrote:
That's literally the point, Iran is playing both sides you fucking idiot and trap is playing with you the same way. Jesus, how dense are you
Iran is not playing both sides. Think about what that would mean in this context and what the two sides are. That was an extremely stupid thing to have said.
After all that, nothing I post will make things better.
However, there is a dance ongoing in this war, it is Iran wanting to have its cake & eat it too.
Prior to the latest launch, which you somehow knew was absolutely coming before they launched, but I did not, Iran had maintained deniability regarding Hamas & Hezbollah being part of Iran's forces.
Iran was forced, due to internal politics, probably, to "take the gloves off" with the latest launch. Let's all hope this doesn't go further out of control, though I hold little hope that it won't.
What the US has been trying to do has now mostly failed, 80% or so, and now we will have to pick up the pieces and try again.
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Trapper Gus wrote:Cameron wrote:
Iran is not playing both sides. Think about what that would mean in this context and what the two sides are. That was an extremely stupid thing to have said.
After all that, nothing I post will make things better.
However, there is a dance ongoing in this war, it is Iran wanting to have its cake & eat it too.
Prior to the latest launch, which you somehow knew was absolutely coming before they launched, but I did not, Iran had maintained deniability regarding Hamas & Hezbollah being part of Iran's forces.
Iran was forced, due to internal politics, probably, to "take the gloves off" with the latest launch. Let's all hope this doesn't go further out of control, though I hold little hope that it won't.
What the US has been trying to do has now mostly failed, 80% or so, and now we will have to pick up the pieces and try again.
One of the sides is Israel. "Playing both sides" implies that Iran sometimes acts or at least pretends to act both for and against Israel's interests. This is obviously a very stupid thing for serenity to have said.
I didn't know the launch was coming, EVERYONE knew the launch was coming. I posted a screenshot of BBC headlines at the time, but I could have chosen virtually any news outlet or one of about a million tweets.
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Cameron wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
After all that, nothing I post will make things better.
However, there is a dance ongoing in this war, it is Iran wanting to have its cake & eat it too.
Prior to the latest launch, which you somehow knew was absolutely coming before they launched, but I did not, Iran had maintained deniability regarding Hamas & Hezbollah being part of Iran's forces.
Iran was forced, due to internal politics, probably, to "take the gloves off" with the latest launch. Let's all hope this doesn't go further out of control, though I hold little hope that it won't.
What the US has been trying to do has now mostly failed, 80% or so, and now we will have to pick up the pieces and try again.
One of the sides is Israel. "Playing both sides" implies that Iran sometimes acts or at least pretends to act both for and against Israel's interests. This is obviously a very stupid thing for serenity to have said.
I didn't know the launch was coming, EVERYONE knew the launch was coming. I posted a screenshot of BBC headlines at the time, but I could have chosen virtually any news outlet or one of about a million tweets.
No, I'm not talking about Israel.
I'm talking, in this sub thread, about Iran & its posturing. Iran had its surrogates attacking Israel so they would have plausible deniability as to their involvement, that changed yesterday.
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Trapper Gus wrote:Cameron wrote:
One of the sides is Israel. "Playing both sides" implies that Iran sometimes acts or at least pretends to act both for and against Israel's interests. This is obviously a very stupid thing for serenity to have said.
I didn't know the launch was coming, EVERYONE knew the launch was coming. I posted a screenshot of BBC headlines at the time, but I could have chosen virtually any news outlet or one of about a million tweets.
No, I'm not talking about Israel.
I'm talking, in this sub thread, about Iran & its posturing. Iran had its surrogates attacking Israel so they would have plausible deniability as to their involvement, that changed yesterday.
I know, and that is not "playing both sides," so serenity should have said something less stupid.
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Cameron wrote:sεяεηιτλ wrote:
That's literally the point, Iran is playing both sides you fucking idiot and trap is playing with you the same way. Jesus, how dense are you
Iran is not playing both sides. Think about what that would mean in this context and what the two sides are. That was an extremely stupid thing to have said.
You're a God damn idiot. I'm arguing with an idiot. Your tinfoil hat is firmly in, you make up random and intricate conspiracies and yet you can't see how Iran is using proxies to attack people yet not directly attacking themselves (i.e. playing both sides). Moron
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Biden fucking did it again, port strike over until at least after election. Thank God for Joe fucking "I am a better American than you" "dgaf fuck the haters" biden. He crushed it one last awesome time.
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sεяεηιτλ wrote:Cameron wrote:
Iran is not playing both sides. Think about what that would mean in this context and what the two sides are. That was an extremely stupid thing to have said.
You're a God damn idiot. I'm arguing with an idiot. Your tinfoil hat is firmly in, you make up random and intricate conspiracies and yet you can't see how Iran is using proxies to attack people yet not directly attacking themselves (i.e. playing both sides). Moron
That is not what playing both sides means, you huge dipshit. Playing both sides means making both sides think you are on their side. Israel certainly doesn't think Iran is on their side, and Iran is not trying to trick Israel into thinking that.
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Cameron wrote:sεяεηιτλ wrote:
You're a God damn idiot. I'm arguing with an idiot. Your tinfoil hat is firmly in, you make up random and intricate conspiracies and yet you can't see how Iran is using proxies to attack people yet not directly attacking themselves (i.e. playing both sides). Moron
That is not what playing both sides means, you huge dipshit. Playing both sides means making both sides think you are on their side. Israel certainly doesn't think Iran is on their side, and Iran is not trying to trick Israel into thinking that.
There are more than two sides in the conflict.
Israel
The United States
Iran
Hezbollah
Hamas
The PLO
Lebanon
And I probably left out a few.
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Trapper Gus wrote:Cameron wrote:
That is not what playing both sides means, you huge dipshit. Playing both sides means making both sides think you are on their side. Israel certainly doesn't think Iran is on their side, and Iran is not trying to trick Israel into thinking that.
There are more than two sides in the conflict.
Israel
The United States
Iran
Hezbollah
Hamas
The PLO
Lebanon
And I probably left out a few.
There are more than two parties to the conflict. Whether or not there are more than two sides is much more debatable.
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Cameron wrote:sεяεηιτλ wrote:
You're a God damn idiot. I'm arguing with an idiot. Your tinfoil hat is firmly in, you make up random and intricate conspiracies and yet you can't see how Iran is using proxies to attack people yet not directly attacking themselves (i.e. playing both sides). Moron
That is not what playing both sides means, you huge dipshit. Playing both sides means making both sides think you are on their side. Israel certainly doesn't think Iran is on their side, and Iran is not trying to trick Israel into thinking that.
Playing both sides is a contextual thing, it can mean any number of things you God damn moron.
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There is no context where it means "using proxies to attack." But keep digging, you're doing great.
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Cameron wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
There are more than two sides in the conflict.
Israel
The United States
Iran
Hezbollah
Hamas
The PLO
Lebanon
And I probably left out a few.
There are more than two parties to the conflict. Whether or not there are more than two sides is much more debatable.
Need to add Egypt into the list, & Jorden & Syria.
The countries on the list all have their own agency. The terrorist groups maybe not as much. The PLO & Hamas oppose each other so there are two sides right there.
The situation is complex, and beyond those groups there is the politics of the US election with different groups in the US chosing sides.
Heard tonight that at least one group consisting of people in the US from some of these countries has advised its members to vote for Harris as the best of the choices a available.
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Cameron wrote:There is no context where it means "using proxies to attack." But keep digging, you're doing great.
Digging what? What exactly am i digging? Telling you the simple fact that "playing both sides" can mean any number of things in any number of situations? There's no digging here, that's just a fact. You're equally bad as the MAGAs when it comes to facts and hyperbole.
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sεяεηιτλ wrote:Cameron wrote:There is no context where it means "using proxies to attack." But keep digging, you're doing great.
Digging what? What exactly am i digging? Telling you the simple fact that "playing both sides" can mean any number of things in any number of situations? There's no digging here, that's just a fact. You're equally bad as the MAGAs when it comes to facts and hyperbole.
You said something stupid, and now you are left with the distasteful choice of owning it (in which case, I, the dickhead whom you despise, will ridicule you), or continuing to act like you're not owned (in which case, I, the dickhead whom you despise, will ridicule you). It's a tough world. Especially for idiots.
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Cameron wrote:sεяεηιτλ wrote:
Digging what? What exactly am i digging? Telling you the simple fact that "playing both sides" can mean any number of things in any number of situations? There's no digging here, that's just a fact. You're equally bad as the MAGAs when it comes to facts and hyperbole.
You said something stupid, and now you are left with the distasteful choice of owning it (in which case, I, the dickhead whom you despise, will ridicule you), or continuing to act like you're not owned (in which case, I, the dickhead whom you despise, will ridicule you). It's a tough world. Especially for idiots.
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I see you have chosen door #2. No surprise. Cowardly morons are quite predictable.
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Cameron wrote:I see you have chosen door #2. No surprise. Cowardly morons are quite predictable.
Nah, you're basically a MAGA, worse actually. There's no use arguing facts and logic, even simple facts/logic with those types. But i am in your head
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Democratic President Joe Biden returned the country to the proven system that worked before 1981, and the economy has boomed.
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/october-11-2024
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Trapper Gus wrote:Democratic President Joe Biden returned the country to the proven system that worked before 1981, and the economy has boomed.
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/october-11-2024
Back to 1981? So is this Jimmy Carter's economy now?!?
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It's too funny when a Libertarian, whom I thought were all about reality, denies reality.
You are getting swept up in lying Ronnie's campaign narratives.
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Trapper Gus wrote:TravelinMan wrote:
It’s called the Malaise Era for a reason. But you do you.
It's too funny when a Libertarian, whom I thought were all about reality, denies reality.
You are getting swept up in lying Ronnie's campaign narratives.
Go put on a sweater and wait in line for gas.
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TravelinMan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
It's too funny when a Libertarian, whom I thought were all about reality, denies reality.
You are getting swept up in lying Ronnie's campaign narratives.
Go put on a sweater and wait in line for gas.
Having Reagan negotiating with Iran to provide them with weapons during the years before the election and creating an oil embargo with them is just politics as usual for Libertarians no doubt.
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It's too late, and maybe Joe has lost a step, so Kamala should step in, but he has been an outstanding President.
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Trapper Gus wrote:It's too late, and maybe Joe has lost a step, so Kamala should step in, but he has been an outstanding President.
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This Biden guy sounds great. Is it too late to replace Kamala on the ticket?
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TravelinMan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:It's too late, and maybe Joe has lost a step, so Kamala should step in, but he has been an outstanding President.
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This Biden guy sounds great. Is it too late to replace Kamala on the ticket?
He has been great, though too few people understand that.
Yes, it is too late, and Kamala would be great if she wins, so there is that.
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Trapper Gus wrote:TravelinMan wrote:
This Biden guy sounds great. Is it too late to replace Kamala on the ticket?
He has been great, though too few people understand that.
Yes, it is too late, and Kamala would be great if she wins, so there is that.
What if she loses? Does that make her not great?
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Biden is a great American and maybe the most successful president in my lifetime, given what he brought America back from.
That republicans/libertarians despise and mock him so much only makes that more true.
That republicans/libertarians despise and mock him so much only makes that more true.
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don't worry, dude - she's gonna lose. Go ahead and put the champagne on ice.TravelinMan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
He has been great, though too few people understand that.
Yes, it is too late, and Kamala would be great if she wins, so there is that.
What if she loses? Does that make her not great?
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TravelinMan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
He has been great, though too few people understand that.
Yes, it is too late, and Kamala would be great if she wins, so there is that.
What if she loses? Does that make her not great?
Hard to be the QB if you are not in the game. She has all the tools, but I am concerned she has made too many deals with the billionaires to gain support. Biden's plan to tax the wealthy was why he was dumped from the ticket. Biden stuck the knife in on his way out the door by anointing Harris, but what deals she made to keep the nomination is a mystery.
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Biden's plan to tax the wealthy is most certainly NOT why he was dumped from the ticket.
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Biden crushing…. Kamala’s message of unity.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e
https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e
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TravelinMan wrote:Biden crushing…. Kamala’s message of unity.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e
Compared to Rump and the shit he says? Let me guess where you get your news from and let me guess who you’ve voted for.
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DWags wrote:TravelinMan wrote:Biden crushing…. Kamala’s message of unity.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e
Compared to Rump and the shit he says? Let me guess where you get your news from and let me guess who you’ve voted for.
Guess all you want. I couldn’t care less.
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I know it upsets y'all, but he ain't wrong.TravelinMan wrote:Biden crushing…. Kamala’s message of unity.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e
maybe find a safe space.
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TravelinMan wrote:Biden crushing…. Kamala’s message of unity.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e
Clearly he said his supporters garbage, they misquoted him leaving out an apostrophe. as in the hate and vile they spew, not the supporters themselves. Though he'd be right on both counts if I was wrong Try again
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sεяεηιτλ wrote:TravelinMan wrote:Biden crushing…. Kamala’s message of unity.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico-comic-e62ccf9108ba0ca8d1ee694f91a6867e
Clearly he said his supporters garbage, they misquoted him leaving out an apostrophe. as in the hate and vile they spew, not the supporters themselves. Though he'd be right on both counts if I was wrong Try again
I'm not sure Hillary wasn't right with her deplorables comments, but it didn't really help her cause much, did it?
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